Rough Landing

[★XS★ - Sidz]

Finally a map that I like!!!

Good Job Rebellion.

I was highly disappointed with Landing Force and the Conqueror Mission. But this map is simply superb.

The A.I is still stupid but hey, I know this is something about which Rebellion cannot do much... I am not sure whether it is a Skill issue or a Will issue?

Anyways, this is a good map and I would like to see more of such big maps.

Here is the MAP if anyone wants to see (how it looks), before buying it.

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Rough Landing (In Authentic Mode + No Manual Save + Axis Invasion!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSROjJ82ZP8

[Zappieroth]

Stupid AI?
Sometimes I suppose but more often then not these AI are far more complicated then 90% of the other games out there and dare I say 'realistic'.

[★XS★ - Sidz]

Originally posted by Zappieroth:

Stupid AI?
Sometimes I suppose but more often then not these AI are far more complicated then 90% of the other games out there and dare I say 'realistic'.

Well, as compared to A.I from SE4 (Authentic Plus), yes they are actually stupid. And I say this after playing for more than 4000 hours in SE4 :)

[dav]

You are not saying much about the map itself. What does "good" mean in your book? I was also highly disappointed in the season pack maps and before I part with my money I'd like to hear other people's opinions on the new content.

[Zappieroth]

Originally posted by ★XS★ - Sidz:

Originally posted by Zappieroth:

Stupid AI?
Sometimes I suppose but more often then not these AI are far more complicated then 90% of the other games out there and dare I say 'realistic'.

Well, as compared to A.I from SE4 (Authentic Plus), yes they are actually stupid. And I say this after playing for more than 4000 hours in SE4 :)

Tried to play that and instantly refunded it.
Sensitivity being tied all to one thing and one thing moving really slow and the other really fast was just an instant nope from me.
Made it basically unplayable.

[postmaster]

I find "Rough Landing" maps first class for attention to detail. Well done artists.
There again, the artistic backgrounds appear never to have been a problem in SE5.

The problems centre around A! and non-patched "campaign" games which appear to not be in Rebellions interest plot. 😡

[★XS★ - Sidz]

Originally posted by dav:

You are not saying much about the map itself. What does "good" mean in your book? I was also highly disappointed in the season pack maps and before I part with my money I'd like to hear other people's opinions on the new content.

Dav, this is my opinion based on Authentic mode. (I only play this mode)

1. The map is bigger than Landing Force and the Conqueror Mission.
2. Plenty of long shots with bullet drop and wind.
3. Number of enemies is more.
4. Finding the pilots is tricky if you are playing in Authentic and have not played in cadet mode (so no hints)

[★XS★ - Sidz]

Originally posted by Zappieroth:

Originally posted by ★XS★ - Sidz:

Well, as compared to A.I from SE4 (Authentic Plus), yes they are actually stupid. And I say this after playing for more than 4000 hours in SE4 :)

Tried to play that and instantly refunded it.
Sensitivity being tied all to one thing and one thing moving really slow and the other really fast was just an instant nope from me.
Made it basically unplayable.

I understand. Sniper Elite 4 is my favourite! I simply love the Authentic Plus mode in that. It took me months to finish the campaigns (no manual save mode). The A.I is brutal. Simply loved that game.

I would give SE5 Five Stars only if

1. They introduce A+ mode
2. No manual Save Achievements in A+ mode like we had in SE4. I am still helping people get that achievement.
3. Brutal A.I
4. Dedicated servers like SE4. Ability to turn off Crossplay/Focus Mode/Incapacitation in the dedicated servers.
5. Ten Campaign and Ten MP maps. (For the price we are paying, this is the least that I ask)

[Tommy_Rebellion]

Originally posted by ★XS★ - Sidz:

Finally a map that I like!!!

Good Job Rebellion.

I was highly disappointed with Landing Force and the Conqueror Mission. But this map is simply superb.

The A.I is still stupid but hey, I know this is something about which Rebellion cannot do much... I am not sure whether it is a Skill issue or a Will issue?

Anyways, this is a good map and I would like to see more of such big maps.

Here is the MAP if anyone wants to see (how it looks), before buying it.

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Rough Landing (In Authentic Mode + No Manual Save + Axis Invasion!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSROjJ82ZP8

Awesome! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Rough Landing. It's definitely one of my favourite missions so far. It took me quite some time to discover all the downed pilots!

What are you thoughts on the new Sjorgen Inertia shotgun?

[shanny50]

The artistic side of Rough Landing is very well done (at least of a decent 4k capable PC) but seeing so many objects reused from festung Guernsey etc. Shows the rush to get these cash grab dlc out fast. why single players are forced to dl massive amounts of multiplayer maps etc worries me. esp. when its a sniper game not a run and gun cod clone. If you want to play no cross, capture the flag etc get quake LOL.

I found it a bit too small (map wise) and easy to accomplish the mission goals.

while its nice to finally have the Moisin Nagant I get frustrated with the M1903 having a 16x scope but most of the others only 12x, why not just allow all rifles to have a 16x scope?

Like there were no 16x scopes or 12x in WWII. The Germans used 6x max and the US did have 8x on the M1903 so its not like its actually authentic to each rifle and era.

cant link to my YouTube acct but here's a 573m headshot on rough landing

https://youtu.be/a86R6xk-SNU

Cheers Shanny

[stdape2022]

Originally posted by postmaster:

I find "Rough Landing" maps first class for attention to detail. Well done artists.
There again, the artistic backgrounds appear never to have been a problem in SE5.

The problems centre around A! and non-patched "campaign" games which appear to not be in Rebellions interest plot. 😡

Totally Agree.

[Flanker1Six]

Pretty good DLC mission. Really liked the map, and number of enemies. As SE5 is the first in the series I've played, so I don't have any memories, preconceptions, or baggage from previous editions. AI while silly at times is pretty good compared to the many AIs I've experienced over the years.

Suggestions:
Please give us camos that blend with the maps!
Do not include obscure weapons that never made it into operational useage.
Where's our M1 Garand, Lebel rifle/s, M3 Grease Gun, etc?
An option to customize load out e.g. 1 primary and 1 secondary would be very nice, as well as imposing a much greater penalty on Karl in speed and agility based on the amount of "crap" he's carrying. :)
Way too much pickups lying about in non sensical locations

Over all: An 8.5-9 out of 10 for me!

[Tommy_Rebellion]

Originally posted by Flanker1Six:

Pretty good DLC mission. Really liked the map, and number of enemies. As SE5 is the first in the series I've played, so I don't have any memories, preconceptions, or baggage from previous editions. AI while silly at times is pretty good compared to the many AIs I've experienced over the years.

Suggestions:
Please give us camos that blend with the maps!
Do not include obscure weapons that never made it into operational useage.
Where's our M1 Garand, Lebel rifle/s, M3 Grease Gun, etc?
An option to customize load out e.g. 1 primary and 1 secondary would be very nice, as well as imposing a much greater penalty on Karl in speed and agility based on the amount of "crap" he's carrying. :)
Way too much pickups lying about in non sensical locations

Over all: An 8.5-9 out of 10 for me!

Some great suggestions. We really appreciate you taking the time. There's still great content on the horizon for Season Two which I think you'll enjoy :)

[jankerson]

Originally posted by Flanker1Six:

Pretty good DLC mission. Really liked the map, and number of enemies. As SE5 is the first in the series I've played, so I don't have any memories, preconceptions, or baggage from previous editions. AI while silly at times is pretty good compared to the many AIs I've experienced over the years.

Suggestions:
Please give us camos that blend with the maps!
Do not include obscure weapons that never made it into operational useage.
Where's our M1 Garand, Lebel rifle/s, M3 Grease Gun, etc?
An option to customize load out e.g. 1 primary and 1 secondary would be very nice, as well as imposing a much greater penalty on Karl in speed and agility based on the amount of "crap" he's carrying. :)
Way too much pickups lying about in non sensical locations

Over all: An 8.5-9 out of 10 for me!

The M1 Garand Sniper vers really didn't see service either.

History says maybe the last few days of the War, maybe.

Due to all the issues they had etc.

[★XS★ - Sidz]

Originally posted by shanny50:

The artistic side of Rough Landing is very well done (at least of a decent 4k capable PC) but seeing so many objects reused from festung Guernsey etc. Shows the rush to get these cash grab dlc out fast. why single players are forced to dl massive amounts of multiplayer maps etc worries me. esp. when its a sniper game not a run and gun cod clone. If you want to play no cross, capture the flag etc get quake LOL.

I found it a bit too small (map wise) and easy to accomplish the mission goals.

while its nice to finally have the Moisin Nagant I get frustrated with the M1903 having a 16x scope but most of the others only 12x, why not just allow all rifles to have a 16x scope?

Like there were no 16x scopes or 12x in WWII. The Germans used 6x max and the US did have 8x on the M1903 so its not like its actually authentic to each rifle and era.

cant link to my YouTube acct but here's a 573m headshot on rough landing

https://youtu.be/a86R6xk-SNU

Cheers Shanny

As Tommy(Rebellion) would say it...

SOLDIER, that is a shot in CADET or SIMILAR mode...

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However thanks for the inspiration. I had already got a gold medal for 465m shot.

I managed a 545m shot in Authentic mode

https://youtu.be/lab2euxiViQ

[rmr]

AI stupid?
I was playing Axis Invasion as Jaeger and got matched with a duo of Karl's in Rough Landing,
they had good rating numbers and I didn't think I would get out of there alive.
But the tank got both of them! I always thought the tanks were fairly easy to survive.
Did they screw up and got "caught" or is that tank AI smarter all of a sudden ? :)
I never got close enough to see what went on.