Question: "your location has been revealed" shown very often

[Devlin]

When playing axis on axis invasion, I get this "your location has been revealed" very often, while not camping at all. For example it happens within 5 seconds when I spawn, and although I start running off, I get the message again within a minute. Still, I have the feeling this has nothing to do with the opposing player using the phone (how can you within 5 seconds?). Also, it hugely differs from game to game?

My guess: Is it more often when you play against lower rank players (easy/medium level), as to help them a little extra?

[Dave]

Originally posted by Devlin:

When playing axis on axis invasion, I get this "your location has been revealed" very often, while not camping at all. For example it happens within 5 seconds when I spawn, and although I start running off, I get the message again within a minute. Still, I have the feeling this has nothing to do with the opposing player using the phone (how can you within 5 seconds?). Also, it hugely differs from game to game?

My guess: Is it more often when you play against lower rank players (easy/medium level), as to help them a little extra?

if invading, 'Karl' will often use the invasion phones as soon as you spawn to check where you are. A noob mistake in my book, as it tells me a lot as an invader too. While he can use it every 30 seconds, as an invader I am stuck with using it only after 5 minutes first, then every 3 minutes after that. I only use if absolutely necessary (as an invader and a Karl). For Karl, the 3rd time he uses it (and every time after that), his location is revealed as well as the invader's, so many Karls will only use it twice.

Just remember that your location as an invader can be revealed within seconds and every 30 seconds after that if the Karl is an idiot.

[Dave]

Originally posted by Dave:

Originally posted by Devlin:

When playing axis on axis invasion, I get this "your location has been revealed" very often, while not camping at all. For example it happens within 5 seconds when I spawn, and although I start running off, I get the message again within a minute. Still, I have the feeling this has nothing to do with the opposing player using the phone (how can you within 5 seconds?). Also, it hugely differs from game to game?

My guess: Is it more often when you play against lower rank players (easy/medium level), as to help them a little extra?

if invading, 'Karl' will often use the invasion phones as soon as you spawn to check where you are. A noob mistake in my book, as it tells me a lot as an invader too. While he can use it every 30 seconds, as an invader I am stuck with using it only after 5 minutes first, then every 3 minutes after that. I only use if absolutely necessary (as an invader and a Karl). For Karl, the 3rd time he uses it (and every time after that), his location is revealed as well as the invader's, so many Karls will only use it twice.

Just remember that your location as an invader can be revealed within seconds and every 30 seconds after that if the Karl is an idiot.

And further to this, any Karl worth his or her salt will use the 'sense' key (the one that allows Karl to see through walls etc if an enemy is very close) to give him or her a rough idea of where an invader is. Phones are a noob play and should be used very sparingly..

[🆂🆃🅸🅶🅶🅰]

Originally posted by BadAssGirl:

It is popular with co-op players. One is on the phone and the other is hunting the invader. Or your opponent has a cheat tool in use. There are many cheaters in SE5. You will notice that very quickly yourself. GodMode and teleporting are "popular" in invasion mode.

I had this teleporter last night but the player was on game console according to the profile / no steam profile, had another one I shot him full round of ammo with MSG in the back he did not die just incapacitated , but the cheat cannot stop the Mellee, had another one who i shot "incapacitated" and he revived in less than 2 seconds.

[SimonChan]

Originally posted by Dave:

And further to this, any Karl worth his or her salt will use the 'sense' key (the one that allows Karl to see through walls etc if an enemy is very close) to give him or her a rough idea of where an invader is. Phones are a noob play and should be used very sparingly..

Yes, but I do think there is a skilled way to use the phone. I sometimes intentionally use the phone to expose my location, and move quickly to another spot where I can have a clear view over that phone area. I would even wait at a certain spot to let the camping counter begins, and once it tells me my location have been revealed I move away (usually somewhere next to a zip line). I use this to lure my opponent to come near, or let them think I'm at the other end of the map so that I can perform an unexpected assault. Feeding false intel to your opponent is a funny tactics.

[Dave]

Originally posted by SimonChan:

Originally posted by Dave:

And further to this, any Karl worth his or her salt will use the 'sense' key (the one that allows Karl to see through walls etc if an enemy is very close) to give him or her a rough idea of where an invader is. Phones are a noob play and should be used very sparingly..

Yes, but I do think there is a skilled way to use the phone. I sometimes intentionally use the phone to expose my location, and move quickly to another spot where I can have a clear view over that phone area. I would even wait at a certain spot to let the camping counter begins, and once it tells me my location have been revealed I move away (usually somewhere next to a zip line). I use this to lure my opponent to come near, or let them think I'm at the other end of the map so that I can perform an unexpected assault. Feeding false intel to your opponent is a funny tactics.

yes, very valid point. use the phone to lure by all means - to use it to learn where the Jaeger is is moot - the HUD radar will soon tell you, and if he's close, the 'sense' will reveal all. In my experience not many people use the sense feature - if they did, I'd be killed a lot more often!

Cheers!

[Devlin]

Thanks guys, this cleared up a lot!

[sunnytater]

To follow up on this, this is happening without Karl using the phone - I'm being revealed every 60 seconds no matter what, which is far less than the phone cooldown.

[rmr]

sunny , were you up against a duo?
It seems when you are Jaeger against two "Karl's" then each Karl can see where you are twice without the game revealing their location, so the duo gets 4 times total without revealing their location? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[「HS」Interfector ex Domini]

eh i get it spammed before the phones are available
how does that happen?
doesnt matter where i am, how many soldiers i told to concentrate around me
id like to know for when i get invaded lol

[「HS」Interfector ex Domini]

just as i said this, turns out the allied sniper was camping 600M away, so its not casue he spotted me himself

[RMJ]

Then the never ending cheat fest, There is no such thing as a "working" anti-cheat engine. This is why I never play PVP. Waste of time.

[MechBFP]

Originally posted by Interfector ex Domini:

eh i get it spammed before the phones are available
how does that happen?
doesnt matter where i am, how many soldiers i told to concentrate around me
id like to know for when i get invaded lol

It is when the allied sniper uses their "focus" ability (the one that lets them see enemies through the walls.) It gives them a GENERAL direction to where you are, but not your exact location unless you are close enough to them to see you with the ability like other enemies. They can use that as much as they want to reveal which direction you are in.