delisle carbine over powered?

[Sci-Fi Addict]

De-Lisle carbine is seriously over powered in game in reality it fired .45 ACP had an max range of 400 yrds and an effective range of 200. I have just played several maps & have been getting easier kills than with a Springfield or KAR98 even at ranges of 300+ yards!

[Lhynn]

1/ The ballistics are terrible, so hitting anything past 200m is a serious challenge, so the DL is very, very far from OP.

2/ How can people complain about some weapon being "OP" in a solo game...?? This constant whining for the sake of whining is just beyond me. Just enjoy the weapon or don't ever touch it again if you find it "OP"...

[Stealth Melon]

stop playing with the empty lung assist. every gun is a perfect kill machine if you can effortlessly click heads at any distance.

[Sci-Fi Addict]

Originally posted by Punished "Melon" Snake:

stop playing with the empty lung assist. every gun is a perfect kill machine if you can effortlessly click heads at any distance.

Not using lung control but highest level of difficulty and centre mass shots, yes aiming is a challenge my point is I am generally getting 1 hit kills when the bullet hits the mark. Perhaps I just watch too much forgotten weapons and the royal armouries channels.

[Sci-Fi Addict]

Originally posted by Lhynn:

1/ The ballistics are terrible, so hitting anything past 200m is a serious challenge, so the DL is very, very far from OP.

2/ How can people complain about some weapon being "OP" in a solo game...?? This constant whining for the sake of whining is just beyond me. Just enjoy the weapon or don't ever touch it again if you find it "OP"...

I never said anything about aiming which yes is a challenge my issue is the hitting power of a .45 PISTOL Calibre round doing 1 hit kills at 400m when in reality that weapon's effective range was 200.

[jankerson]

Originally posted by Sci-Fi Addict:

Originally posted by Lhynn:

1/ The ballistics are terrible, so hitting anything past 200m is a serious challenge, so the DL is very, very far from OP.

2/ How can people complain about some weapon being "OP" in a solo game...?? This constant whining for the sake of whining is just beyond me. Just enjoy the weapon or don't ever touch it again if you find it "OP"...

I never said anything about aiming which yes is a challenge my issue is the hitting power of a .45 PISTOL Calibre round doing 1 hit kills at 400m when in reality that weapon's effective range was 200.

In SE4 it had a huge issue with bouncing off helmets, even point blank range. LOL

[Stealth Melon]

Originally posted by Sci-Fi Addict:

Originally posted by Lhynn:

1/ The ballistics are terrible, so hitting anything past 200m is a serious challenge, so the DL is very, very far from OP.

2/ How can people complain about some weapon being "OP" in a solo game...?? This constant whining for the sake of whining is just beyond me. Just enjoy the weapon or don't ever touch it again if you find it "OP"...

I never said anything about aiming which yes is a challenge my issue is the hitting power of a .45 PISTOL Calibre round doing 1 hit kills at 400m when in reality that weapon's effective range was 200.

If you watch the bullet cam, you're firing a full power rifle cartridge so just try to have fun with it. the game is by no means a sniping simulator.

[Schwartzritter]

Originally posted by Sci-Fi Addict:

Originally posted by Lhynn:

1/ The ballistics are terrible, so hitting anything past 200m is a serious challenge, so the DL is very, very far from OP.

2/ How can people complain about some weapon being "OP" in a solo game...?? This constant whining for the sake of whining is just beyond me. Just enjoy the weapon or don't ever touch it again if you find it "OP"...

I never said anything about aiming which yes is a challenge my issue is the hitting power of a .45 PISTOL Calibre round doing 1 hit kills at 400m when in reality that weapon's effective range was 200.

It is a game, not a simulator. The DeLisle Carbine is meant to be FUN to use. If you do not like it because it "op" to you, stop whining to us about it and use another weapon.

[Lhynn]

Originally posted by Sci-Fi Addict:

my issue is the hitting power of a .45 PISTOL Calibre round doing 1 hit kills at 400m

Then you should probably uninstall whatever mods you have, we definitely don't play the same weapon. I struggle to 1-hit kill anything beyond 50m. The stopping power of the DL is pretty much as abysmal as its mortar-like ballistics.

The only selling points of this weapon are the ridiculously low noise radius (especially with the subsonic ammo) and the fact that you can freely equip a bayonet for CQC since it already has a built-in silencer. Everything else about this weapon ranges from meh at best to utterly bad. Not that it matters though; since SE4 the DL was never meant to be a "good" weapon, it's just a hilariously fun gimmick to have in your arsenal. But efficiency? Please, be serious. Even the painfully bad Gewehr is 2x more OP than this high-tech slingshot.

[Stealth Melon]

I'd love to see a video of these 300+ meter one hit kills with no assists

[General Plastro]

The gun is really... really...really awful in long range.

Even with the aim assist, at 250m+ range, your aim assist is outside your scope view, your essentially lobbing bullets, without being able to see where they are landing.

On MP as well, playing with it is a serious handicap, you have a low damage, slow firing gun that has extremely low effective range.

[Struonger]

The DL is only OP at the 50-100 meter range. Anything beyond that sweet spot is a uphill battle that can't be won. The weapon is just not equipped to handle long range sniping. Yeah, it's "OP" when played to it's strengths (You can snipe a guard in a room and his buddies that are just a 2 feet away won't even hear the shot depending on your configuration) but really, it falls severely in everything else compared to the other rifles: damage, muzzle velocity, etc...

A great weapon when playing stealth and in close quarters, but at the same time, there are better weapons that perform far better beyond it's ridiculous low audible range

[Darcy]

sorry OP, its definitely not overpowered given its cartridge characteristics.

I mean have you tried a precision sniping shot with it over about 400m? Its basically a mortar shell with its trajectory, as its should be. Because it was never designed as a long range rifle.

Use it for its intended design purpose, as a short-medium range, quiet, precise, low magnification scope (or iron sights tbh), and it'll shine.

It doesn't hold up to long range precision rifles like the K98 because it was never meant to.

[etalian]

The delisle Carbine is a big pain in the ass to use on larger maps when you are playing with sniping difficulty cranked up.

Similar to the M1 Carbine it does shine on some of the more cramped like War Factory and the final Finale Level in which most of the shots are <100m

[jankerson]

Originally posted by Sci-Fi Addict:

De-Lisle carbine is seriously over powered in game in reality it fired .45 ACP had an max range of 400 yrds and an effective range of 200. I have just played several maps & have been getting easier kills than with a Springfield or KAR98 even at ranges of 300+ yards!

It's not really overpowered on Hard Mode and above.

It's pretty weak really.

The only good thing about is it is almost silent.

Keep the short to around 100m to 150m and it does OK, even on Authentic.