Still No Gore or Dismemberment Because Sniper Elite is Developed By COWARDS

[DarylSurat]

We have had five games of mainline Sniper Elite, and yet Rebellion is still too craven to stand by the core premise of their game, which is "murder the deserving with high-powered weaponry so hard that you can revel in their pain." Yet for all the much-ballyhooed hype around X-Ray killcams showing bones and organs exploding, the corpses remain perfectly intact. In a game that is allegedly "rated M for Mature."

How come when I shoot somebody in the eye and am rewarded with a slow motion shot of his eyeball EXPLODING, when I look at that corpse he's looking at me with both eyes intact? Didn't I just see my bullet blast that apart? So why's he perfectly fine the second the X-Ray shot ends? How come there's not even signs of entry and exit wounds? Oh right, because this game chickens out.

How come I can kill a guy, then go up to his corpse and start blasting or stabbing even more, but that does no visible damage? How come I can booby trap a corpse with an explosive then when it goes off once his friends check the body...and everybody's body stays completely whole? They're just knocked into the air by having a bomb explode in their face. What, no charred remains? I thought this game was touting its hardcore violence front and center in every trailer. What gives?

OH, THAT'S RIGHT: the videogame ratings boards of [insert former Axis nation here] won't permit games to be sold which depict human dismemberment, and so Rebellion kowtows to these other countries by just never implementing such features worldwide! Well, that sort of absolute cowardice is what I expect from some big soulless entity like Activision with Call of Duty or EA with Battlefield, and I guess this independent publisher and developer who fancies themselves a "Rebellion" has decided to just fall in line too. Not much of a "rebellion," I'd say.

And now I'm hearing this new Sniper Elite 5 has NON LETHAL options? Uh-uh. That ain't the direction this series needs to go. We need GORE AND DISMEMBERMENT in the mainline games, not just Zombie Army, to bring it up to speed with the X-Ray kill cam shots already there. And the rewards/progression system needs to incentivize you to ALWAYS MURDER EVERYBODY, and do it in assorted violent ways. Sniper Elite ain't Hitman, where there's innocent bystanders around. These games are all set during World War 2 opposite an enemy army for a reason, which is so you can just slaughter them wholesale without worrying about discretion.

You're already rated M, Sniper Elite. Quit being so sanitized.

[Skyclad Observer]

People calling OP crazy as if these game aren't memed as nazi ♥♥♥♥♥♥ sniping sims He just wants stuff that RDR2 and Fallout 4, some of the most popular games ever, have.

On the note of gore, I would like to see dismemberment on explosions and entry and exit wounds at least.

[nikolaLTP]

Diposting pertama kali oleh DarylSurat:

You guys are acting like I'm the maniac here when it's REBELLION who put that X-Ray kill cam in these games themselves. If the game already has this complex gibs system showing everything being shredded, how about we see that on the battlefield afterwards? Where'd all the complex gibs go afterwards? What, did Viscera Cleanup Detail janitor guy jump in super fast? Last I checked, a sniper rifle bullet isn't some magical Buddha's Palm kung fu technique that just destroys people's insides with no damage whatsoever to the exterior. I'm just saying these cowards need to display the same damage we saw them ALREADY SHOW AS HAVING HAPPENED. If they show us an X-Ray of a guy's intestines being blasted out of their stomach (which is an actual thing in these games), it's just STUPID to then look at the body afterwards and not only NOT see his guts hanging out, but his uniform's not even dirty!

And even if the caliber of rifle used doesn't dismember someone, the EXPLOSIONS from grenades and ignited fuel tanks/vehicles WOULD. You know, how since Part 2 and 3 where they'll give you the X-Ray killcam of a bullet hitting the grenade on a guy's belt, and then it blows the guy up? That should...you know....BLOW THE GUY UP.

Even if I somehow accepted that "oh, it's just too challenging for the performance to have that many ragdoll objects," that still does not excuse the fact that the bodies of dead enemies show absolutely ZERO signs of the damage THAT WE ALREADY SEE BEING INFLICTED in the X-Ray kill cam. "Oh damn, that shot shattered this guy's entire jaw!" but then you walk up and look at him afterwards and dude ain't even got a BULLET WOUND on his face? This kill cam thing is a JOKE.

The Sniper Ghost Warrior/Contracts games just show a quick little flash of the bullet exit wound on impact and that's it, so it's not like those are a substitute for what the Sniper Elite series claims they do but don't. And Soldier of Fortune? Definitely the way to do it, but SoF 2 is TWENTY YEARS AGO. How about a game like that which was made at least in the Playstation 4 generation?

No man you want war game with war effects and this one issue break your immersion and you are right . Comments for any game are full of game negative reviews because of one specific issue depends of what one expect . They should've done it would be much more visceral experience and immersive . Game is half baked on that field . This is not Marvel's Guardians

[Kashra Fall]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Skyclad Observer:

People calling OP crazy as if these game aren't memed as nazi ♥♥♥♥♥♥ sniping sims He just wants stuff that RDR2 and Fallout 4, some of the most popular games ever, have.

On the note of gore, I would like to see dismemberment on explosions and entry and exit wounds at least.

There are entry and exit wounds, they jsut aren't graphic, but rather decals. The entry point is smaller than the exit point as it should be.

[Kryll]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TotemMX:

There are mass murder shooting in USA every then, and you want to give politicians more reasons to blame video games... ?

Video Games like this doesn't need gore.

You heard the man folks. Gore needs to stay out of videogames worldwide because American's can't be bothered to control their crazies. Sorry, that's just how it has to be. I'm already on the line with Rockstar to get all copies of RDR2 deactivated in Europe until gore is removed to protect the USA. /s

[GornakTheBarbarian]

Diposting pertama kali oleh DarylSurat:

The Sniper Ghost Warrior/Contracts games just show a quick little flash of the bullet exit wound on impact and that's it, so it's not like those are a substitute for what the Sniper Elite series claims they do but don't. And Soldier of Fortune? Definitely the way to do it, but SoF 2 is TWENTY YEARS AGO. How about a game like that which was made at least in the Playstation 4 generation?

What? Ghost Warrior Contacts 1 and 2 has full dismemberment and gore. No xrays though but it's a lot more messy and has better aftermaths than Sniper Elite games,

[Lo Burattino]

Why are people calling OP crazy and telling him he needs help because he wants gore in a WW2 shooter??

[FATE]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Lo Burattino:

Why are people calling OP crazy and telling him he needs help because he wants gore in a WW2 shooter??

probably some mindless fanboys defending the game, or paid keyboard warrior to defend game, anyway, largely the same

[DarylSurat]

https://www.reddit.com/r/sniperelite/comments/ulnipu/the_steady_decline_in_gore_se5goredlc/ contains a series of pictures illustrating what I am talking about. Even I did not notice that this issue has continued to get progressively WORSE with each new Sniper Elite game. Sniper Elite 5 already contains the Nazi swastika logo all over the place, meaning this game cannot be sold as-is to the more restrictive countries like Germany anyway. So why sanitize the aftermath of the violence for everybody worldwide? Rebellion should just release the censored violence/imagery versions in those more restrictive countries.

The Zombie Army games prove that Rebellion's engine already has the capability to do this, and those games have way, WAY more enemies per map than Sniper Elite does. This is not a technical limitation.

[Thorn]

You have to enter the cheat to get dismemberment, INSANEGIBSMODEGOOD and JUGGYDANCESQUAD if you want big bouncing boobs.

[SolidBoss7]

what a little cry baby

[senator02103]

> Person criticises thing I simp for
> Better call them names
> Flex alone, at home with a feeling of superiority.

I agree with OP bring the carnage.

[Gato Laser]

Remember in 2012 (SE2) when you could shoot the fingers of the nazis off? And now in 2022 we still don't have this feature?

[gdburk52]

Something to think about is that in reality the ammo is FMJ I believe, at least in real warfare. FMJ ammo is pretty much a through and through hole unless it hits bone. I haven't got to a point in the game where you can get soft nose ammo (I think that's what it's called) so I don't know if that will/does make any difference it the game.

[Axe]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Thorn:

You have to enter the cheat to get dismemberment, INSANEGIBSMODEGOOD and JUGGYDANCESQUAD if you want big bouncing boobs.

Is this for real or just a joke?

What is the format you type it in?

[Quadnick]

It's a belief of mine that if you make a post with any trace of hostility in the wording, people will tend to argue against you, no matter the context. They'll think of any dumb ass point to counter your argument, just out of spite; like politicians blaming video games for mass shootings if they're gory, as if this game doesn't have an xray of the human body lmfao.

Having the corpse resemble the damage done to them during the xray would be awesome, and the lack of it is pretty annoying. It was probably just too difficult for them to pull off consistently.