Denuvo = No buy!

[Badger]

I'm not buying a game infected with the malware/spyware that is Denuvo.

[Quagimus Decimus]

Mr Jt (Amber Turd is done) původně napsal:

RabbitBreeder původně napsal:

lol ya'll still care about that stuff...

Yeah people with standards care and always will. Not everyone just consooooomes there is something called rights. You are the customer and should get treated like the king. Once the server go down you can’t even play this sp game anymore. Denuvo doesn’t raise sales btw it’s only here to satisfy shareholders

Dead4Life The Original One původně napsal:

1 out of 100

No fast majority hates denuvo

That would be a negative
Majority of people don't care that's the difference.
There's almost 65,000 games on steam.. you're going to play SE5 for a few months at best.. and move on to something else.

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

TheQuagmire původně napsal:

Mr Jt (Amber Turd is done) původně napsal:

Yeah people with standards care and always will. Not everyone just consooooomes there is something called rights. You are the customer and should get treated like the king. Once the server go down you can’t even play this sp game anymore. Denuvo doesn’t raise sales btw it’s only here to satisfy shareholders


No fast majority hates denuvo

That would be a negative
Majority of people don't care that's the difference.
There's almost 65,000 games on steam.. you're going to play SE5 for a few months at best.. and move on to something else.

Majority of people hate denuvo a fact. Just because they buy a game doesn’t mean they don’t care. It’s common sense. Good that there are alternatives like gamepass. Once the servers go down the game you bought is dead. Once that will happen even you will care

[A D L]

Dead4Life The Original One původně napsal:

1 out of 100

Let's say Sniper Elite 5 sells 3 million copies on PC.
1% of 3 million is 30,000 people. There's definitely a lot more people who hate Denuvo but let's downplay it for the sake of fun.
Let's say $20 is the median take off each sale. 30,000 * 20 = 600,000. $600,000 lost according to your own number. Now compound that across sales lost for the same reason in Sniper Elite 4, Sniper Elite 5 and Zombie Army 4 and it's a hell of a lot more.

[A D L]

I don't know about you but if someone offered me hundreds of thousands, potentially millions of dollars simply by removing DRM that's already been cracked by pirates, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[Quagimus Decimus]

Mr Jt (Amber Turd is done) původně napsal:

TheQuagmire původně napsal:

That would be a negative
Majority of people don't care that's the difference.
There's almost 65,000 games on steam.. you're going to play SE5 for a few months at best.. and move on to something else.

Majority of people hate denuvo a fact. Just because they buy a game doesn’t mean they don’t care. It’s common sense. Good that there are alternatives like gamepass. Once the servers go down the game you bought is dead. Once that will happen even you will care

If they hated denuvo these games wouldn't be selling millions of copies mate.

A D L původně napsal:

Dead4Life The Original One původně napsal:

1 out of 100

Let's say Sniper Elite 5 sells 3 million copies on PC.
1% of 3 million is 30,000 people. There's definitely a lot more people who hate Denuvo but let's downplay it for the sake of fun.
Let's say $20 is the median take off each sale. 30,000 * 20 = 600,000. $600,000 lost according to your own number. Now compound that across sales lost for the same reason in Sniper Elite 4, Sniper Elite 5 and Zombie Army 4 and it's a hell of a lot more.

They're not lost sales if those were people who never intended to buy said game because they're waiting for a cracked version. You can't define how many of those people in your percentile actually customers in the first place.

[A D L]

Again, why would a pirate be complaining about Denuvo when those games have already been cracked? These are people are customers that got stuck with an inferior version of the game or people interested that would have been customers if it wasn't for Denuvo.

[Quagimus Decimus]

A D L původně napsal:

Again, why would a pirate be complaining about Denuvo when those games have already been cracked? These are people are customers that got stuck with an inferior version of the game or people interested that would have been customers if it wasn't for Denuvo.

Is se5 cracked? No? Of course they'll complain. Why are all the new games using Denuvo.. because why not? The regular joe smoe isn't going to crack a game.. they barely know how to turn on their pc in the first place. Oh but I can just download the cracked version! Why is my computer making noises? Why is my computer ranzomwared? Or mining pixels for someone else.. in other words people don't want to risk or waste their time.. they'll just buy the game because they just want to play it.. no ♥♥♥♥♥ given because it has denuvo.

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

TheQuagmire původně napsal:

Mr Jt (Amber Turd is done) původně napsal:

Majority of people hate denuvo a fact. Just because they buy a game doesn’t mean they don’t care. It’s common sense. Good that there are alternatives like gamepass. Once the servers go down the game you bought is dead. Once that will happen even you will care

If they hated denuvo these games wouldn't be selling millions of copies mate.

A D L původně napsal:

Let's say Sniper Elite 5 sells 3 million copies on PC.
1% of 3 million is 30,000 people. There's definitely a lot more people who hate Denuvo but let's downplay it for the sake of fun.
Let's say $20 is the median take off each sale. 30,000 * 20 = 600,000. $600,000 lost according to your own number. Now compound that across sales lost for the same reason in Sniper Elite 4, Sniper Elite 5 and Zombie Army 4 and it's a hell of a lot more.

They're not lost sales if those were people who never intended to buy said game because they're waiting for a cracked version. You can't define how many of those people in your percentile actually customers in the first place.

People buy it because they don’t have a choice. Majority hates it because most people aren’t dumb

TheQuagmire původně napsal:

A D L původně napsal:

Again, why would a pirate be complaining about Denuvo when those games have already been cracked? These are people are customers that got stuck with an inferior version of the game or people interested that would have been customers if it wasn't for Denuvo.

Is se5 cracked? No? Of course they'll complain. Why are all the new games using Denuvo.. because why not? The regular joe smoe isn't going to crack a game.. they barely know how to turn on their pc in the first place. Oh but I can just download the cracked version! Why is my computer making noises? Why is my computer ranzomwared? Or mining pixels for someone else.. in other words people don't want to risk or waste their time.. they'll just buy the game because they just want to play it.. no ♥♥♥♥♥ given because it has denuvo.

Also wrong. Most new game don’t have denuvo especially the good ones like elden ring and most other games as well

[[{******---Dead4Life---******}]]

A D L původně napsal:

Dead4Life The Original One původně napsal:

1 out of 100

Let's say Sniper Elite 5 sells 3 million copies on PC.
1% of 3 million is 30,000 people. There's definitely a lot more people who hate Denuvo but let's downplay it for the sake of fun.
Let's say $20 is the median take off each sale. 30,000 * 20 = 600,000. $600,000 lost according to your own number. Now compound that across sales lost for the same reason in Sniper Elite 4, Sniper Elite 5 and Zombie Army 4 and it's a hell of a lot more.

Sure, but probably Rebellion doesn't see it that way.
They probably think that even if they use Denuvo the sale numbers will be very solid for their franchises. And well, they are solid enough to keep guaranteeing sequels and DLCs.
Not all but the majority of gamers do buy games with denuvo as well.
Now, don't get me wrong, I DO believe Denuvo is useless and should be removed from all games, but if it's in a game... well dam it, I'll still play.

[A D L]

TheQuagmire původně napsal:

Is se5 cracked? No? Of course they'll complain. Why are all the new games using Denuvo.. because why not? The regular joe smoe isn't going to crack a game.. they barely know how to turn on their pc in the first place. Oh but I can just download the cracked version! Why is my computer making noises? Why is my computer ranzomwared? Or mining pixels for someone else.. in other words people don't want to risk or waste their time.. they'll just buy the game because they just want to play it.. no ♥♥♥♥♥ given because it has denuvo.

Rebellion's other games have been cracked for years and it's why there's been such a backlash against Rebellion using it now. Every game that removes Denuvo gets positive press and a surge in sales. Yet Rebellion hasn't done it in their games. That indicates to me that they can't be trusted to support the product I'm buying.

You keep saying that "all the new games use Denuvo" but that's not true. Denuvo is in decline and for good reason. It has a bad reputation. Most games don't use Denuvo and of the games that do, the overwhelming majority of them remove it after a period of time. I'm on record saying that I would have bought the game with Denuvo if I had any reason to believe that it'd be removed eventually. They have not given me any reason to believe them so they're not getting my money until it's on sale for what I'm willing to lose because I most likely will lose access to my purchase one day thanks to this crapware.

[Quagimus Decimus]

Mr Jt (Amber Turd is done) původně napsal:

TheQuagmire původně napsal:

If they hated denuvo these games wouldn't be selling millions of copies mate.


They're not lost sales if those were people who never intended to buy said game because they're waiting for a cracked version. You can't define how many of those people in your percentile actually customers in the first place.

People buy it because they don’t have a choice. Majority hates it because most people aren’t dumb

TheQuagmire původně napsal:

Is se5 cracked? No? Of course they'll complain. Why are all the new games using Denuvo.. because why not? The regular joe smoe isn't going to crack a game.. they barely know how to turn on their pc in the first place. Oh but I can just download the cracked version! Why is my computer making noises? Why is my computer ranzomwared? Or mining pixels for someone else.. in other words people don't want to risk or waste their time.. they'll just buy the game because they just want to play it.. no ♥♥♥♥♥ given because it has denuvo.

Also wrong. Most new game don’t have denuvo especially the good ones like elden ring and most other games as well

People buy it because they don't care
You keep thinking this matters.. it really doesn't. You have the choice of either buying it or not. or just playing it on gamepass and forgetting it until it's $20 on steam.

I never get anyone fighting over older enabled denuvo games. They played their games, and moved on. In fact I know of one SE fan who's spent tens of thousands of hours on these games.. doesn't give one ♥♥♥♥ it has denuvo or not.

[Gitgud]

TheQuagmire původně napsal:

Mr Jt (Amber Turd is done) původně napsal:

People buy it because they don’t have a choice. Majority hates it because most people aren’t dumb


Also wrong. Most new game don’t have denuvo especially the good ones like elden ring and most other games as well

People buy it because they don't care
You keep thinking this matters.. it really doesn't. You have the choice of either buying it or not. or just playing it on gamepass and forgetting it until it's $20 on steam.

I never get anyone fighting over older enabled denuvo games. They played their games, and moved on. In fact I know of one SE fan who's spent tens of thousands of hours on these games.. doesn't give one ♥♥♥♥ it has denuvo or not.

Played the game and moved on….you are the typical just consume product and get excited for next product guy. Make a thread about this on reddit and you will see that most people hate denuvo. You must be pretty brain dead if you are fine with anti consumer practices like that

[Quagimus Decimus]

A D L původně napsal:

TheQuagmire původně napsal:

Is se5 cracked? No? Of course they'll complain. Why are all the new games using Denuvo.. because why not? The regular joe smoe isn't going to crack a game.. they barely know how to turn on their pc in the first place. Oh but I can just download the cracked version! Why is my computer making noises? Why is my computer ranzomwared? Or mining pixels for someone else.. in other words people don't want to risk or waste their time.. they'll just buy the game because they just want to play it.. no ♥♥♥♥♥ given because it has denuvo.

Rebellion's other games have been cracked for years and it's why there's been such a backlash against Rebellion using it now. Every game that removes Denuvo gets positive press and a surge in sales. Yet Rebellion hasn't done it in their games. That indicates to me that they can't be trusted to support the product I'm buying.

You keep saying that "all the new games use Denuvo" but that's not true. Denuvo is in decline and for good reason. It has a bad reputation. Most games don't use Denuvo and of the games that do, the overwhelming majority of them remove it after a period of time. I'm on record saying that I would have bought the game with Denuvo if I had any reason to believe that it'd be removed eventually. They have not given me any reason to believe them so they're not getting my money until it's on sale for what I'm willing to lose because I most likely will lose access to my purchase one day thanks to this crapware.

Your argument is so pointless. On the chance you will lose access one day.. you said it yourself these games get cracked so how is it an issue? 5? 10? 15 years from now? I still haven't seen any past games that died because of denuvo, or anyone who potentially even cared enough to talk about it. I guess we need to go back to securom days with rootkits.. much better practices.

[Quagimus Decimus]

Lemale původně napsal:

TheQuagmire původně napsal:

People buy it because they don't care
You keep thinking this matters.. it really doesn't. You have the choice of either buying it or not. or just playing it on gamepass and forgetting it until it's $20 on steam.

I never get anyone fighting over older enabled denuvo games. They played their games, and moved on. In fact I know of one SE fan who's spent tens of thousands of hours on these games.. doesn't give one ♥♥♥♥ it has denuvo or not.

Played the game and moved on….you are the typical just consume product and get excited for next product guy. Make a thread about this on reddit and you will see that most people hate denuvo. You must be pretty brain dead if you are fine with anti consumer practices like that

Most of reddit is brain dead.. your example isn't that great mate. I'm surprised you didn't use instagram or twitter as a source.

[Gubtubus Webble]

Badger původně napsal:

I'm not buying a game infected with the malware/spyware that is Denuvo.

people still complain about denuvo? really?