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Grandy Sep 7, 2023 @ 9:40pm
Shape Respecter Achievement
"On level 8, defeat Legacy without dealing damage to any of his Shapes."

what is considered his shapes? i tried waiting out the part he goes invicible and tried to accurately only dealing dmg to his body directly but still doesnt get the achievement.

is it meant that i only deal dmg to his projectiles?
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Anything he summons which can take damage. The spinning orbs, the triangles, the laser things. E v e r y t h i n g. That's my guess based on how silly some of the other achievements are as well.
Last edited by The Grand Mugwump; Sep 7, 2023 @ 9:48pm
Sairek Ceareste Sep 7, 2023 @ 10:48pm 
I believe even his little face... uh... "thing" he summons in phase 2 also counts as a shape, but I also think that may gotten changed recently since it was confusing that something you're supposed to damage to, y'know, damage him, was counter-intuitive.

I was a bit out of it drugged on medicine when I was reading those set of patch notes, so I don't remember it as well as I probably should. I hope I'm not making that change up.
Last edited by Sairek Ceareste; Sep 7, 2023 @ 10:49pm
Grandy Sep 8, 2023 @ 12:31am 
So only hitting him directly counts right?

i tried waiting out the whole invicibility phase out and only hitting him directly

but i may have accidentally touched something else then

thanks for the answers

EDIT : just did my 3rd run, this time im VERY sure i didnt hit his shape even once
still doesnt get the achievement.. will do my 4th attempt now

EDIT 2 : nvm i got it, i may have accidentally touched him via other source of dmg no matter how minmal in my previous run, for safety i dont bring any repros, unequip core such as oxjack helm and vagrant yearn to avoid acicdental dmg

but my steps are :
waiting it out at corner of the room until he is very isolated from his projectiles (most of the times when he is using Square Shape projectile, land 1-2 hit,

during invicibiltiy phase, i waited it out, his invincibility will ran out after awhile

repeat what happened in phase 1
Last edited by Grandy; Sep 10, 2023 @ 12:25pm
Fox Tenson Sep 8, 2023 @ 11:11am 
I've been wondering this too. I've beaten him quite a few times without damaging his shapes and I have yet to get the achievement. I can only assume maybe his shapes continue offscreen and can be hit, but other times I know I've never hit them. Its quite the pain for sure.
batterystaplegames  [developer] Sep 8, 2023 @ 2:41pm 
*any* damage to the shapes will count as a hit, so you'll need to also make sure you don't have any repros or other automated sources of damage (say, Vagrant's Yearn's automatic Negation Pulse). Pretty sure this achievement's working as intended!

(edit: yes, we did change it so damage to the little floaty faces in phase 2 doesn't count, but it's pretty hard to hit those without accidentally tapping one of the cross beams!)
Last edited by batterystaplegames; Sep 8, 2023 @ 2:41pm
zero51423 Sep 22, 2023 @ 3:32pm 
Looks like Crystal Wave (Echo Cave boss weapon) does 0 damage and harmlessly freezes and destroys shapes. You can still shoot the frozen shapes so you have to be careful, but you can get in some extra damage when he uses the circle shape (freeze them and wait for him to move away from them) and much more safely target the face thing in the mid-phase.

Probably still safest to tag him from behind with charge shots when he uses the squares though.

Edit: The orbs the faces release can and will damage shapes if the fight moves to the next phase while the orbs are traveling. Probably best to wait out the shield phase entirely.

Edit 2: Not so sure about the Crystal Wave thing working. I thought I had done it without doing other damage, but maybe I missed something. Ended up getting this by just leaving it alone and taking pot shots where I could. The circles are by far the most dangerous part of getting this as they spawn in very quickly and it's very easy to chip one by mistake. Best way I can see to do this is just stack as much damage as you can and play very carefully and slowly.
Last edited by zero51423; Sep 24, 2023 @ 11:55am
Eloyas Sep 24, 2023 @ 2:32pm 
I did it and it's one of the worst achievements in the game. For starter, do yourself a favor and try to do it in Mega Mode, as you'll restart dozens of times.
You can hit the small faces during the phase change and it won't cause problem, but you can't hit anything else. I personally did it with Ace's Laurent as the hitbox is pretty small. Don't pick any other damage dealing upgrades as ANYTHING that touches a shape will rob you of your achievement.

Give one or two hits (if confident) between each attack. It's a war of attrition, not a blitz. If you see two numbers pop up and one is smaller than the other, you screwed up. Use the triangle attack to position Legacy as you wish. At first, the squares seemed like a safe timing, but they spawn on top of him, so you still need to be very careful. I had the most luck by getting the triangle attack to finish in the air.
Fox Tenson Sep 25, 2023 @ 11:10pm 
I found it easiest to get power damage and use Nina and the void weapon. Wait till he does the square attack and he's away from the squares and pop him with the void once. If you have high enough power damage and energy you can safely down his health without worry of hitting the shapes. It takes forever but it is really safe. The triangle attack looks safe but I think you are still damaging the triangles even if it doesn't appear to do so. You CAN lure that attack and get behind him after the second charge attack he does with the triangles and pop him with a quick attack, but its riskier than waiting for him to be away from the squares to pop him.

This was my third last achievement to get in the game towards 100%. Only the long level speedrun and die 50 times were left but were much easier. This is the second hardest achievement next to take damage less than 10 times in the game I think.
Reverberous Oct 3, 2023 @ 8:43am 
Does anyone know if defeating them when you have a full Vagrant Set on LVL 8 counts? Because when in the meltdown mode their boss battle is... different.
Last edited by Reverberous; Oct 3, 2023 @ 8:43am
Diogo Stone Nov 12, 2024 @ 5:45pm 
Originally posted by Reverberous:
Does anyone know if defeating them when you have a full Vagrant Set on LVL 8 counts? Because when in the meltdown mode their boss battle is... different.
Does not count.
maximuspain0 Nov 23, 2024 @ 11:56am 
I know this thread is old, but since the star attack came out, this feels impossible. Any new strat?
maximuspain0 Nov 25, 2024 @ 8:13am 
Just got it yesterday. No new strat, just make sure you have health, as you will take a lot of damage
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