No way to buy more books?

[greenochre]

So, I've unlocked the whole house, but I'm not even close to filling all the Wisdom Tree.
It looks like now I can have a new book only when there is an offer from Oriflamme and I have enough spintria, which is rare, because I can earn them only with visitors and visitors are rare... what do you do?

honestly not being able to constantly earn money and spend it on books in the game about books makes me frustrated

[Pandorian]

The only way to get extra books is to way for Oriflamme's. Which of course requires building up Spintria from visitors.

What's even worse for those who want to do an all book run is you've most likely locked yourself out of 5 books without even knowing about it due to how the deck system works in conjunction with Oriflamme's. So even if you buy out Oriflamme's to where they offer the repeat book, you'll still be missing 5 books.

[Zero]

Originally posted by Pandorian:

The only way to get extra books is to way for Oriflamme's. Which of course requires building up Spintria from visitors.

What's even worse for those who want to do an all book run is you've most likely locked yourself out of 5 books without even knowing about it due to how the deck system works in conjunction with Oriflamme's. So even if you buy out Oriflamme's to where they offer the repeat book, you'll still be missing 5 books.

I've never heard of this, can you explain or link to info?

[Pandorian]

Originally posted by Zero:

I've never heard of this, can you explain or link to info?

So the game works on a deck system. Each item is classified into a deck and when something is drawn it is removed from the deck. Once that deck is exhausted it will refresh. The easiest example is Numa. The deck is 9 cards with one being Numa and the others being Not-Numa. So that's how you get variance in the time Numa comes.

I bring this up because the books are also in decks. There is a deck for each time period: Dawn, Solar, Baronial, Curial, and Nocturnal. The Oriflamme deck contains all the books in those time periods where pulling from one of the 5 will also remove that book from Oriflamme and vice-versa.

So what happens when you exhaust that deck? When you exhaust any of those decks, it doesn't refresh and instead you get a default book. These are the 21 difficulty books. There is one for each time period and one for Oriflamme. Something to keep in mind is there aren't enough default books in the library to cover all the books in the game. So you can probably see where this is going.

Someone catalogues all the books in the library but there are still books in each of the 5 decks. Oriflamme's will eventually pull all of those books out and then revert to it's default card. Since it's pulling from it's deck and not the other decks you only get it's default book and miss the default book for those 5 time periods.

So to actually get all the books you have to do something completely counter-intuitive. You have to save at least one book from each time period and not catalogue them until you empty Oriflamme's. You then catalogue them, they will attempt to pull from the deck, see it's empty, and give you the default book for that time period.

[chipperMDW]

The only way to get those five books is to draw from an empty period deck. The only way to draw from a period deck at all is to catalogue an uncatalogued book from that period. The only way to get an empty period deck while still having an uncatalogued book to crack is to get all of its contents from Oriflamme's first.

It's kinda like gold spintriae in Cultist Simulator, actually.

[Zero]

Originally posted by Pandorian:

Originally posted by Zero:

I've never heard of this, can you explain or link to info?

So to actually get all the books you have to do something completely counter-intuitive. You have to save at least one book from each time period and not catalogue them until you empty Oriflamme's. You then catalogue them, they will attempt to pull from the deck, see it's empty, and give you the default book for that time period.

That is extremely counter-intuitive. I had figured that each "deck" was set in stone from the start, and that exhausting Oriflamme's would result in a trash book akin to "something something DEEP MYSTERIES" from Cultist Simulator, just junk to tell you there's nothing more to gain. I've never gone that far as to get everything from Oriflamme's, my intent was to do an all-books run at some point so at least now I know the trick ahead of time.

[chipperMDW]

I'm still on my first run, where I had been intending to find everything, but I've lost the chance to actually get those books. I believe there are hints in the data files that, at one point, there was consideration for a mechanic for ordering bundles of uncatalogued books from Oriflamme's. I guess I'm hopeful that that eventually gets added in some form.

I figure one could probably edit the save pretty easily to just give oneself some uncatalogued books. I prefer not to do it that way if possible, but that might be an option for someone who doesn't want to wait and see.