Disciples III: Reincarnation

Disciples III: Reincarnation

Antar Jan 22, 2018 @ 2:12pm
Inferno Mission 5
Inferno Mission 5 (the one where you play as an elf). Normal.

I find it impossible to advance in this mission, it is extremely frustrating. Thing is there is little to do differently in this mission, as you have to play without potions, artefacts, runes, spells, or a castle, with pre set army which is just terrible and cannot be upgraded.

I am stuck at an elf army near the big fountain just few fights from the start, they have 2 large creatures which are impossible to beat as both do enough damage to kill anyone in my army in 1 hit. And they have 1 interception... There is one alternative, to go N to fight some undead quest army which again I cannot hope to beat. Or am I supposed to reload the battle until every enemy hit is a miss?!

To mention the obvious, it is the AI so of course it always plays first and more often even though it has identical units, most hits are criticals etc. This is what makes it look impossible to me.

So what is the deal of this map? Anyone got any tips, or maybe link to some detailed guide? Was enjoying the campaign up to this point...
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Antar Jan 24, 2018 @ 10:29am 
I got through, the 1 battle took me at least 2 hours battling rng, restarted few hundread times. As it is with this game, rest of the inferno campaign was super easy, I would have finished it with my hero alone. Terrible design.
Karol13 Jan 24, 2018 @ 12:34pm 
100 times...there should be definetely an achievement for this :)
KUDOS
harleyquinrazer Jan 25, 2018 @ 6:06am 
The final battle against the two Skylords? Yes it's hard.

Did I have to take two hours? No. Would it have made a difference playing on Hard rather than Normal? Maybe, but it's still the same army composition.

Two things to exploit: Terrain features and stupid AI decisions. The latter is fairly consistent in its inability to choose the most optimum targets. As for the former, reload until players have one spellcaster focus boost within easy reach of the healer as well as a melee focus boost which is within range of the magic focus boost.

Place the unit with the strongest melee damage value on the focus spot. The entire army is essentially sacrificial to rid the Skylords of their interception and to act as one-time damage sponges for the main damage dealer to finish the job. Focus on one Skylord at a time, if one falls quickly with most of the player's army intact the battle is halfway won.

Goes without saying that player should use all those potions picked up along the way on this one fight.

The undead battle is actually harder since save-scumming for a terrain advantage doesn't help much (Elder Vampire in that enemy stack is too annoying).
Last edited by harleyquinrazer; Jan 26, 2018 @ 8:50am
Antar Jan 25, 2018 @ 6:55am 
I overstated how many times I did reload, but it was probably close to one hundred. 2 hours for this fight it was though, this mission as a whole took me whole day starting early afternoon and finishing early morning...

Thanks for the tips, I was indeed reloading the battle until I had a mage power up on my side for the healer and a melee booster, but that alone was not enough. The enemy cant have any useful boosters in this fight and it often got them. One time I thought I won it, then I had 5x miss on a 15% chance in a row with those raiders of mine, and lost it again. I always restarted the battle when I got first miss too early or when the AI kept hitting with criticals way too much (all the time!). I reloaded the battle so many times, I don't even remmember how I have won it in the end.

The undead battle seems even harder, close to impossible. Elder Vampire is tough and heals himself, and they have a paralyzer which I can't see how you would kill early with just 1 archer and 1 very weak mage. Also there seems no point, as I know now that the elf mission ends soon after that 2 skylords fight, so whatever is in that chest there is not worth it.

I found this mission the most frustrating so far, because at the start I though I lost my "op" inferno character for good, and have to play elfs now, and this misson looks huge too. I did not know the elf part will end quite soon.
Karol13 Jan 25, 2018 @ 7:01am 
Elder Vampire -> sometimes the AI of EV jumps to "reckless healer", se damaging his friends will trigger his healing (what substracts from his own HP) - and then he is truly vulnerable.

Downside of the strategy (let EV drop in HP and finish that SoaB) is that he has some auto-boosts that are triggered by his low HP.

Also what is pretty critical - lure EV near your units. Usual strategy "meet in the middle and just hack'n'slash" makes it difficult to launch surprise attack on EV + makes your units possibly more vulnerable. Find out if EV likes to pursue any specific unit of yours, make that unit fall back (hoping EV will follow) then execute the "crazy healer" stunt ... and pray.
Rouwer Jan 6, 2021 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by Antar:
Also there seems no point, as I know now that the elf mission ends soon after that 2 skylords fight, so whatever is in that chest there is not worth it.
Oh. I won that battle after couple of tries, it was hard but completely doable unlike encounter with undead. Won. but lost my hero, so i decide to load last save because next battles will be impossible without third warrior as i thought (but there wont be any battles ahead). 10-15 tries after i came here in search for answers and hope, and i guess you gave them to me, thanks.
Crazy mission.
Rouwer Jan 6, 2021 @ 2:06pm 
UPD: there is battles ahead, but after 2 skylords fight game give you one resurrection potion. Better than nothing, i guess.
loks Feb 7, 2021 @ 2:30am 
I get 2 resurrection potions and easily passed through elves, also there were 2 artifacts. But I did not risk to go on undead, how much I didn’t try every time someone died.
Advice use alt button too see all treasures that hidden under trees, they will shine.
was Interested if someone do all this battles without deaths.
loks Feb 7, 2021 @ 2:57am 
After fights I saved 1 potion also
Hard difficulty
pied6piper Sep 26, 2023 @ 9:07am 
Braindead idiot designed this mission. Gamedesigners who design ♥♥♥♥ like this mission must never be allowed into gamedevelopment again.
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