You can download old version just set it in BETA section and stop sh*tting yourself so much xD

[One death guy]

jak mawia stare przysłowie "nie ♥♥♥♥ żarem to grozi pożarem"

nie panikujcie moje drogie Janusze Steam'a - stara wersja gry jest i zawsze będzie dostępna

pierwsze co zrobiłem jak wydali aktualizacje to zajrzałem do zakładki BETA i VOILA - jest Legacy Version do wybrania więc nie sr*jcie tak cebuli

[SaD-82]

And how do people this for the console version?
Ah, I forgot: They can't. Because the devs f'ed up big times with this choice.
No need to whitewash the most stupiest move (and arguably most sh*ttiest move) they could have pulled off.

Will be interesting to see how this little story will have impact on the launch of their new game...
(There are companies that went bankrupt because of such decisions. Well earned, I say.)

[el bakito]

I do think the outrage was a bit too great, but at the same time, can't say it was unjustified. They removed a lot with this decision, even if it is reversable with Betas, which they didn't even mention themselves. It doesn't feel like an overhaul that justifies cutting the content due to the fact that what it brings isn't polished and introduced in a very lazy way. For instance, they cut the morale system, but kept events that change morale. Now, these decisions are worthless. The way they went about to "overhaul" this game was poorly thought out and it's truly sad. I don't mind the fact the game went free, since many games that used to be paid went free as limited deals, so its kinda that but for forever, and devs tried to warn about this, but I am sure people who just bought it must feel scammed.

Additionally, console versions of the game remain unchanged for now without plans for new updates, as revealed by developer in Discord server, so the argument we lost the legacy version is in fact irrelevant and misinformation, although said misinformation is only devs' fault, for they could specify the legacy version is still available.

Also, call me a conspiracy theory lunatic, but this left out beta could as well be a mistake and they didn't mean to keep it, but forgot that it exists. It is only my theory without any proof and I wouldn't like it used against developers, unless they remove said beta.

[Macc]

Złotko, obrońco na białym koniu i w srebrnej zbroi, założę się że gdyby nie taka alergiczna reakcja użytkowników Steama, to nasze Polaczki które stworzyły Warsaw coś tam, zapewne by palcem nie kiwnęły w sprawie "Legacy". Na Gogu grę usunęli, konsolowcy zostali wykastrowani, a sami twórcy cichcem i na chybcika w wystawionej wiadomości z przed trzech godzin dali opis jak uruchomić wersję sprzed zubożenia. Zapewne jak wszystko ucichnie to oni zapomną o wersji Legejsi, bo tak będzie dla nich taniej. Jeśli Pixelated Milk chciało uchodzić za poważnego twórcę, to właśnie wiele wizerunkowo stracili. I dobrze im tak.

[Osiem]

Zresetowało mi kodeks, więc tak kurwa jestem zły

[el bakito]

Jeżeli wejdziesz w bety i zmienisz wersję, to powinien wrócić, ale nie jestem pewien. Jednakowoż achievementów pewnie za to nie dostaniesz, bo w wersji starej były pobugowane w cholerę, ale warto spróbować.

[One death guy]

Originally posted by Macc:

Na Gogu grę usunęli, konsolowcy zostali wykastrowani

dlatego warto kupować na Steamie i grać na PC

[Mhmmm]

Viola w sensie skrzypce?

[One death guy]

Originally posted by Mhmmm:

Viola w sensie skrzypce?

Si senior Mea Culpa- I meant Voila

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2486594194976259

[SOWWY!]

ja pierdole just why didnt they do a brand new game? call it Legacy and leave it in libraries with all the best legacy version was. I can't get this, why

[DedZedNub]

Wow, odd. At least, as long as they keep the BETA version up, as the Legacy Version, they can get out of legal consequence, I suppose.

But, otherwise, an actual lawsuit would win. Reason is, it is a contract agreed to WHEN entered into. So, you made the purchase, licensing, lease, whatever you call it, at the time of exchange of monies. That's how you decided to do it, and refund or not. If you had no recourse to the original, and content was removed, they can't do that even with an EULA that claims changes can be done.

Why? Because it is retro-active, to the point of damaging the exchange in favor of the customer, all advantage instead is to the seller/licensor/leasor . This makes the contract changed, and the original agreement non-existent, as the earnest money exchange was for , at least, the right to get what they initially got. Anything less, would be damage to the other party, and lead to damages in court. Doesn't matter what the contract, nor what is in the EULA. Most changes in code are usually able to be argued as comparative in value. So a bug fix, or a DLC fix, or a revamp, or so on. So there is no obvious damage. But if I sell you a blueprint, even in digital form, and then remove part of the blueprint to make the item, I harmed your purchase, and so I am libel for damage to the other party. Just takes making the case in court. That's a separate issue, but it is the foundation for ALL CONTRACT LAW, doesn't matter what the form, even if a time-lease, or the content distribution form, intellectual property or digital, what have you. Again, that's because it is a contract entered in the past, and with certain natural expectations, which are to fulfill the contract.

So, glad the Beta is still there as the Legacy, but otherwise, you would need them to make the case that all is just a service, not even a lease or license, and that they can change things without written warning by a certain number of days, and not subtracting from the cost originally incurred. Otherwise, they'd have to at least return some of the funds in passing and damages. There was a reasonable expectation that you get what you paid for, no matter if a licensing right, lease, or purchase -- in that you get what was offered, and no less than what was offered.

I really, Really, REALLY hate reminding people of this, since the Old Wives' Tale of New Idiots is parroted all the time. But an agreement is an exchange of things, and they must be as contracted, not less, or the deal cannot be excused, so it is cancelled, and harm is calculated in the court, as a matter of how much "good faith" was kept in the deal, and given then a repair cost, or procedure, to fix it or else.

Granted it requires a court case to force, and standing in order to make the case, but this sort of nonsense is going the way of the Dodo. As Unity and others are finding out right quick, when the situation is damaging to as many sectors as Unity tried.

Here of course we are just dealing with a game, and again, they can make the case that the BETA is out there to cover their butts.

But Wowee, that a decision. And this is just a side discussion so that one of you with more money one day or with the wish to organize such a class action suit and get the right lawyers actually do so, because one day everything, including appliances will be sold as software on hardware, and you won't own it, you will be licensing it, with an EULA -- and you will see appliances be the exact same. At that point, you are toast and will have no recourse. All of this is made as precedent, unless it gets nuked early enough by the right argument in court, and you don't settle, and make it case law. Thus settlements , as well, do not really protect from the courts going more and more left, aiding the elites and not aiding the common customer.

[Luna ~]

Originally posted by SaD-82:

And how do people this for the console version?
Ah, I forgot: They can't. Because the devs f'ed up big times with this choice.
No need to whitewash the most stupiest move (and arguably most sh*ttiest move) they could have pulled off.

Will be interesting to see how this little story will have impact on the launch of their new game...
(There are companies that went bankrupt because of such decisions. Well earned, I say.)

console skill issue

[Fortunado]

i sucked. a few days i bought it turned into some kind of tribute game. not what i payed for. people have a right to be upset with the huge bait and switch