Serpent path — serpent holm... I can't win. V1.57.8 [Spoilers]

[EnemigoDeLaMafia]

So this is for the second part you visit serpent holm. I am playing on hard.

Theres the dragon player, and the both wolf bases.

I have played this game many times, but with the new changes it seems absolutely impossible.

I have tried about everything. First thing I tried was to harass the northern wolf base. I found a video on YouTube detailing how to go about it, but it doesn't seem to work.

What I've done is harrass from the east side whilst building a base there. The problem is that there is simply no beating the combined dragon reinforcements with the reinforcements from the other wolf base. I can manage to survive until shinja arrives, however at that point there seems to be two waves of reinforcements per enemy base, and it is simply too much.


2) The second thing I tried was to harrass the dragon player. This is doable, i managed to clear the rice field, However the combined reinforcements end up overwhelming any army I can muster.

3) The third thing I tried is to bunker up on top of serpent holm. There's just enough space to have the 3 troop buildings. Holding their Advance seems somewhat doable, but once the starting rice field and pond is destroyed, it seems impossible to retake.

4) Lastly I've tried to secure the area around the starting rice field and pond, abandoning serpent holm. The attacks coming from all sides render this strategy futile. The terrain is pretty bad and the buildings end up being scattered everywhere.

I really don't know how to go about this mission. I have beaten it many times on my cd copy but now I simply cannot. The number of enemies is overwhelming. By the time shinja and the necromancer arrive, it's usually game over, because the second group of enemy reinforcements are attacking, and not even with them I can turn the odds.

[󠀡󠀡]

Hey there!

Thanks for stating the version of your game.

We've acknowledged an unfair increase in difficulty after some of the 1.57.8 changes, the situation should be better on open beta right now (1.57.9) and will be fixed in the next update (we're reducing AI cheats while trying to improve its combat behavior).

For now, besides switching to open beta, I can suggest looking into deeper in-game controls unless you're already familiar with them, that could be of great help in battle: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1025600/discussions/0/3115906960363399204/#c3093389895548447642.

Cheers!

[EnemigoDeLaMafia]

Well, I've upgraded to the 1.57.9 beta version. I did notice an improvement in the AI, they will now agressively attack second row units like musketeers and geishas. They will also disengage melee units and run around a lot.

I think there's a little bit more breathing room on the very beginning, but i still was not able to break the northern wolf base. I have tried a lot of different unit combos and I'm micromanaging everything to the best of my ability.

The problem I think is the reinforcement waves. They come in at around minute 4-5, and it seems to be x6 units per base. When they arrive, the northern base is still not destroyed, and they get a chance to rebuild. They'll usually send x6 wolf troops, and the dragon bases also seem to send 2 groups of 6 units. Fighting off these forces gives enough time to the northern base so that they build a force of their own.

A second wave of reinforcements per each base seems to come very quickly after the first initial wave hits. I would say 1 to 2 minutes after, but I've had this second wave reach me before I even completely clear up the first initial group of reinforcements. This is what finally destroys me.

Another way to approach the map is going south. I did manage to establish a base on the southern rice field this time. I managed a stalemate which is definitely progress, but I did lose eventually, as the attacks kept getting stronger and I was unable to destroy any other bases, or replenish losses in order to keep up with attacks.