Battle Realms: Zen Edition

Battle Realms: Zen Edition

Annurism Nov 28, 2020 @ 9:30pm
The best players
Hi to whoever happens to read this,

I was once one of the best players in the world while this game was popular, for sure I was in the top 5 or 10. I wish that carried more weight (lol) but hey, it is what it is right? I had the privilege of playing against some of the best players that ever inhabited the old gamespy lobby like Corpse, Melkor, Aderath and all of the Lords. I once even visited the Liquid studios and got to see first hand some of their creative process. I lived through the flamewars on the ubisoft site that was taken down nearly 2 decades ago along side such characters as Didz, buddy13 and (my personal favorite) Barfo.

Anyhow, I was the original Lord DianWei, Lord of Lords and scourge of ubisoft and atari forums. If any of you are out there still from the old BR and WotR days let me know so I can stop by and play a game or two with you.

P.S. I hope the devs are working with a complete list of all the known bugs and player complaints - I once wrote an essay on all the improvements that could have been made in the design. These are of course my opinion but backed up by high level play experience and numerical/statistical fact. I say this because there are a metric ton of things that are right about this game - But a metric ton of things that are wrong. I do see in some of the patch notes you have addressed some of our more serious complaints. So gj on that - and whoever you devs are, thanks for taking the interest and time in something that was such a big part of our lives in the early days of the internet. I have found that no matter how hard I look, I have never found a game or community that has ever recreated that magical time I spent as a member of the BR community.
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󠀡󠀡 Dec 1, 2020 @ 2:27am 
Thank for you taking your time to write this! Quite a read indeed.

First things first, I'd like to invite you to our Discord server[discord.gg], this is probably the best way to communicate with the community, and the devs.

Now, allow me to first respond as a competitive player, and then as a community manager.

I'm afraid most of the players from your times are gone by now. You will probably hear some familiar names from what I'm about to tell you, and you'll probably be able to find some of the old players in the future.

Since the 2009's "Great Migration" from Gamespy to GameRanger, the latter had been the most populated place up until the Steam release of BR. Most of the before-active playerbase of BR has basically dwindled away by now, people get on with their lives or migrate to other games.

Even now, the only remaining small part of 'old veteran' players prefers to reside there instead of playing the Steam version of the game. Mostly due to the issues with the multiplayer, which is understandable.You can try posting in this fan group[www.facebook.com] run by Ben, Med and Light and see who responds from that particular community.

Regarding the Steam version, there is a few returning players that have come back due to the Steam release, they play from time to time: [KH]Sora, King, the_hobbit, [LOT]RunDown. Wakizashiuk, Sunrise (Afgan), Maksilver. There is also a bunch of new players who've made considerable progress in terms of competitive games.Our place is the BR Discord server basically, and some Steam chats where people arrange games with each other.

All in all, everyone's waiting on this version to get stabilized, then 'old veterans' can switch and 'standby people' may return (including more veterans who haven't played BR for a long time).

Originally posted by 408.james.lopez:
Hi to whoever happens to read this, P.S. I hope the devs are working with a complete list of all the known bugs and player complaints - I once wrote an essay on all the improvements that could have been made in the design.
I've been collecting the bugs for a long long time and we've also had some of the bugs sent to us from the 'old veteran' players. I'm pretty sure the list covers everything, it also gets updated with more info and the developers have access to it.

Regarding the essay - if you still remember that, it would be nice to have you write it once again. Either send it to us directly on Discord, or write in this thread, or create yours if you think it's a bit different from the improvement topic. That'd be greatly appreicated! :)

Cheers! :lunar2020halodragon:
Annurism Dec 5, 2020 @ 10:56am 
Thanks for the response! I know wakizashi - or at least think I do if its the same guy. The rest of those names were either not around during my time or were new when I was already old.

Ill check out the discord at some point, thank you for that info.
ADHDTurnip Dec 23, 2020 @ 5:01pm 
Oh yeah I remember buddy13, he made ring armour and attended renaissance festivals.
I remember bah as well and his wacky poems. I never played multiplayer but I was a mod on the Lotus forums and spent a lot of time on the Liquid Forums. I had a lot of fun with the Design a zen master contest, I think I placed 3rd on it. Fun times.
DrL0V4Z Jan 28, 2021 @ 7:51pm 
ahhhh yes, I remember you Dianwang, you Sunce and Sunquan; you used to talk too much, much better than you played, I remember, I was part of LDD clan along with dark and lightdragon; then melkor joined us as smurf! Lord ended up getting bored with so many defeats and disconnecting the router that you chose to leave BR, good times.

well no person from that time plays at the moment, there you will see some of the MBR clan but they are smurfs; none are the original MBRs like gryphon or the MIX clan. Suddenly you may see EmpressTashiro but I don't think it's the real one because it doesn't abuse the turtle like before.

Best regards

Rage/K-Dash
Annurism Feb 1, 2021 @ 4:37am 
lol the ldd clan. I remember you guys. You used to try so hard to beat us. But the only way you were able to win was by exploiting the lotus clan mass skulls and serpent clan smoke bomb bug. Thats why nobody played with you.

For the record, turtling is a valid tactic. Abusing bugs is not. Same old battle realms players I see...Maybe thats why me and my clan went on to bigger and better things in the game industry and you got stuck playing with your friends - i mean...i dont recall you visiting liquid entertainment. Lol I guess that honor was for the few of us that were actually good and not just abusive.

:*

have a great day!

Edit: Btw melkor was in everybodys clan. He always smurfed.
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Annurism Feb 1, 2021 @ 4:56am 
well..as i figured. Sat in the lobby for a while with a game up. Nobody wants to 1v1. Same old players who talk loads of trash but wont actually play 1v1.

gg everybody!
󠀡󠀡 Feb 1, 2021 @ 4:58am 
Originally posted by 408.james.lopez:
well..as i figured. Sat in the lobby for a while with a game up. Nobody wants to 1v1. Same old players who talk loads of trash but wont actually play 1v1.

gg everybody!
I'd like to play a couple rounds with you if you're available. :winter2019happygingerbread:
Annurism Feb 1, 2021 @ 5:11am 
im willing to play, admittedly its been 20 years...i got old somewhere lol..the only lobby I currently have access to is the steam one.

Also...getting old somewhere over the last 20 years has made me somewhat illiterate when it comes to technology. Sooooo I have no idea how to find you outside of this lobby.
󠀡󠀡 Feb 1, 2021 @ 5:21am 
Originally posted by 408.james.lopez:
im willing to play, admittedly its been 20 years...i got old somewhere lol..the only lobby I currently have access to is the steam one.

Also...getting old somewhere over the last 20 years has made me somewhat illiterate when it comes to technology. Sooooo I have no idea how to find you outside of this lobby.
I sent a friend invite, you just need to accept it. The rest I'd be able to explain in PMs, you'll catch up soon enough. :lunar2020halodragon:
DrL0V4Z Feb 9, 2021 @ 5:58pm 
Originally posted by 408.james.lopez:
lol the ldd clan. I remember you guys. You used to try so hard to beat us. But the only way you were able to win was by exploiting the lotus clan mass skulls and serpent clan smoke bomb bug. Thats why nobody played with you.

For the record, turtling is a valid tactic. Abusing bugs is not. Same old battle realms players I see...Maybe thats why me and my clan went on to bigger and better things in the game industry and you got stuck playing with your friends - i mean...i dont recall you visiting liquid entertainment. Lol I guess that honor was for the few of us that were actually good and not just abusive.

:*

have a great day!

Edit: Btw melkor was in everybodys clan. He always smurfed.


I don't know dianwang, I was a kid back then and had a good time playing BR at that time, crushing you and other n00bs, then I grew up and dedicated myself to developing as a professional, while playing other RTS with more enriching experiences, such as Company of heroes or the stronghold series, although unfortunately this genre is currently niché

PS I never played with lotus anyway, BUT YES, rushing with cannoners AND SMOKE WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITES. Best regards
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Annurism Feb 11, 2021 @ 5:46am 
heh, this kid admits he used exploits as his favorite tactic.

Still as smart as a box of rocks i see.
Sol4rSky Feb 11, 2021 @ 11:25pm 
this thread is cool, good history hehe
Cobbler Fish Mar 11, 2021 @ 8:57am 
I wonder if old [LOT]Kasedo is still around.. :steamthis:
Annurism Mar 14, 2021 @ 4:53pm 
Ive always kind of wondered if the game had some kind of staggered release. A lot of the players most of you consider "old" from my viewpoint were fairly "new" players. Even I wasnt one of the original names of the gamespy lobby. LOT and LDD were two of the clans that showed up when the game was already dead. What I mean is that frozen throne was already well into its lifespan and most of us had moved onto guildwars and world of warcraft when those two clans showed up.

Im guessing that maybe winter of the wolf maybe had some kind of impact on exposure when it released but honestly by the time the expansion came out it was a fairly dead lobby and it didnt seem to bring new players like we had hoped it would.

Side note - if anyone knows barfos where abouts I would very much like to speak with him.
Peasant77 Mar 14, 2021 @ 7:38pm 
Man, imagine if there is a proper ranking and record system.

Recognizing you guys as classic players pumped me up. I mildly remember bummed into DrL0V4Z several times, a while ago. He is a great player, no doubt. I would like to play with/against you guys sometimes. Though, I have a strict playing time but I play almost everyday in short session (restricted by work life). I just started playing competitively around 6 months ago. So I could learn a thing or two from you guys ^^.

You classic dudes should join us in BR community on Discord : https://discord.com/invite/FYjtaUh
to keep BR strong.:steamthis: :steamhappy:
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