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Crescence Toran Feb 24, 2019 @ 1:32am
What's the point of ranked?
As far as I know, there's absolutely no rewards for climbing to a higher tier. Is it just for bragging rights or something, because then that's pretty pointless in all honesty.
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MyLittleJohny Feb 24, 2019 @ 2:00am 
Ok, so I'm gonna explain here again. It is for you to actually know if you are improving in the game or not. Also it actually ads to the competitive factor of the game.

If you are always balanced into teams and the game predicts the outcome based on this "balance" you have no way to say if you are improving or not.

I'm gonna quote myself:
Originally posted by .Cute-Dei. Quake:
Originally posted by ele:
Improvement should be obvious to yourself
That would be true, if matches are not balanced to 1.0. When there is such balance, you have no way to tell if you are improving in an actual game other than some kind of rank, cause you will have the same amount of losses to wins. All mobas are balanced this way, where many times you have very low impact on the outcome of the match. You either want to have game balanced or you want to be able to follow your progress by yourself. You can't have both.

EDIT: I realized you some people don't necceserily need to understand what I am talking about.

You start a match, lets say both teams have rank 1. So it's 1:1 chance. Now let's say you win the game. Your rank will grow to 1.2 for example and you get harder match. If you win even that one by accident, you will get impossible match - like rank 1.5. Let's say you win even that one by some weird circumstences.

The game doesn't want good players pounding bad player all over again. It needs to distribute the fun equally. That's what balancing stands for, right? You've just won 3 matches in a row. So wha't going to happen now is the game will sacrifice you to a match against people with rank let's say 2.5 who lost their games, so they can get some wins too. This way it will reduce your rank to your more real ranking while providing fun aspect and balanced feeling to others. At the end of the day, you will have the ratio of Win:Losses, KDR or whatever the particular game balances these matches on equal to 1.0. But when you have the same amount of wins to losses, how can you say if you are good or bad. When you can't see any of the statistics, even if you would have W:L 1.2, you can't tell if you are improving, cause you are unable to tell the skill rank of the other people in your matches. It can be the same for 4 months and your W:L will be the same.

(there is even darker story for this kind of game balancing, but I don't want to derail much)
Last edited by MyLittleJohny; Feb 24, 2019 @ 2:04am
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Crescence Toran Feb 24, 2019 @ 2:56am 
Thanks for the information. So basically there's no substantial reward worth climbing for, got it.

Ranked is solely for placing you in games with allies and opponents of similar skill level to you. That's fair.
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Rawzri Feb 24, 2019 @ 3:11am 
Did we forgot to mention Limited edition recolored skin once you reach tier 6 (Credible Threat) at the end of each season.
They only added that recently though, before that it is true that there are no rewards at all.
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Crustonita Feb 24, 2019 @ 3:18am 
tl7t55f9

Code for the game, enjoy it
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Crescence Toran Feb 24, 2019 @ 3:18am 
Originally posted by Rawzri:
Did we forgot to mention Limited edition recolored skin once you reach tier 6 (Credible Threat) at the end of each season.
They only added that recently though, before that it is true that there are no rewards at all.
Wait really? That's something worth playing ranked for. Do you just need to get bronze tier 6 or is it up to gold 6? Also do you know which hero it's for?
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Rawzri Feb 24, 2019 @ 4:09am 
Originally posted by Crescence Toran:
Originally posted by Rawzri:
Did we forgot to mention Limited edition recolored skin once you reach tier 6 (Credible Threat) at the end of each season.
They only added that recently though, before that it is true that there are no rewards at all.
Wait really? That's something worth playing ranked for. Do you just need to get bronze tier 6 or is it up to gold 6? Also do you know which hero it's for?
It depends on the latest planned one. iirc the next one is Alpha since it won the vote.

You just have to reach T6 rank on 3v3 or 5v5
Sounds easy right? Nope, unless you get a good grasp of the game mechanics.
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Crescence Toran Feb 24, 2019 @ 2:36pm 
Originally posted by Rawzri:
Originally posted by Crescence Toran:
Wait really? That's something worth playing ranked for. Do you just need to get bronze tier 6 or is it up to gold 6? Also do you know which hero it's for?
It depends on the latest planned one. iirc the next one is Alpha since it won the vote.

You just have to reach T6 rank on 3v3 or 5v5
Sounds easy right? Nope, unless you get a good grasp of the game mechanics.
Understood, thank you. Just wondering, is there a significant skill gap between T4 and T6? Because this is me in T4 so far:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1666119771
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ele Feb 24, 2019 @ 3:58pm 
Ranks in all games are there to help you find a more balanced match. That is your reward.
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starfoxcom Feb 24, 2019 @ 5:45pm 
Originally posted by Crescence Toran:
Originally posted by Rawzri:
It depends on the latest planned one. iirc the next one is Alpha since it won the vote.

You just have to reach T6 rank on 3v3 or 5v5
Sounds easy right? Nope, unless you get a good grasp of the game mechanics.
Understood, thank you. Just wondering, is there a significant skill gap between T4 and T6? Because this is me in T4 so far:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1666119771

In my opinion the bottlenecks on rank (as far as i have experienced, don't know if it's still the same) are:
T4
T7
T9

These ones here are where pretty much all the carried and boosted players commonly stays, since here is were skilled players commonly start appearing one after another (and if you don't know the actual meta for those tiers, you'll get smacked hard down).
Last edited by starfoxcom; Feb 24, 2019 @ 5:45pm
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Elfaran Feb 24, 2019 @ 10:03pm 
lot of troll pick in casual, probly including me since i pick whoever i want...or try new hero, and doesnt really care win or los
Last edited by Elfaran; Feb 24, 2019 @ 10:09pm
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MyLittleJohny Feb 25, 2019 @ 3:57am 
Originally posted by Rawzri:
Originally posted by Crescence Toran:
Wait really? That's something worth playing ranked for. Do you just need to get bronze tier 6 or is it up to gold 6? Also do you know which hero it's for?
It depends on the latest planned one. iirc the next one is Alpha since it won the vote.

You just have to reach T6 rank on 3v3 or 5v5
Sounds easy right? Nope, unless you get a good grasp of the game mechanics.
it's time consuming, cause the game pulls you back all the time and when finally you reach your rank, you are wiped by new season. I stopped to give a F years ago.
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Zer0 Feb 25, 2019 @ 2:51pm 
Originally posted by Cruston:
tl7t55f9

Code for the game, enjoy it
ma boi it dont work :(
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Rawzri Feb 25, 2019 @ 7:12pm 
Just for a heads up, or a fun fact for new players:
> There is a soft reset after each season.
> Each season lasts for 3 updates.
> There is not much difference with T4 and T6, but there will be difference on how you react to bad plays in the long run.
> The game does not pull you down. It just keeps the matchmaking fresh by removing inactive people who no longer plays.
> Skill is gained through hundreds and thousands of games.

"If you think you are doing it right, you are doing it wrong."
- the skills you will learn in t4-t6 is just the bare minimum in surviving t8+
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