Loric's axe or helmet?

[Lampros]

I picked up the helmet, but I am wondering if I made the wrong choice?

[HeathenSW]

I'd say axe is better, since fearless is not that impactful and axe can be amazing on winged maidens/Farilson-tank/death dealers/spirit wolf. I know that I checked once what helmet does and since then I always took axe if I'd chosen this map (took me some googling rn to remember about helmet at all).

[Lampros]

Originally posted by HeathenSW:

I'd say axe is better, since fearless is not that impactful and axe can be amazing on winged maidens/Farilson-tank/death dealers/spirit wolf. I know that I checked once what helmet does and since then I always took axe if I'd chosen this map (took me some googling rn to remember about helmet at all).

What exactly does Frenzy do though? I am clueless.

[HeathenSW]

Gives you 10% damage increase each time you attack or retaliate being attacked if I recall correctly. It lasts for 2 turns and all the gained stacks renew after another attack/retaliation.

So you attack one enemy and get +10% dmg for two turns, then the enemy attacks you and you get another +10% and so on. Enemy dies and you can't get to attack another in two turns - all the gained frenzy bonuses vanish and you must start anew.

That's also why that oak before clansmeet that gives frenzy with no rng is kind of a big deal. It's basically a free Loric's axe that uses no artifact slot.

A last tackled the game some year ago or so, so I may be mistaken about retaliation and I really am not sure if it works on ranged unit since I never tried it myself, keep that in mind. But it's still amazing on a unit that can take a beating and deliver it back the next turn.

[HeathenSW]

Actually let me just reinstall and check. Should have old saves somewhere in steam cloud I hope.

[HeathenSW]

Yap reinstalled and checked. Frenzy works with retaliation and is indeed how I've written. New stack of +10% damage each time unit hurts somebody. Works with ranged too, so potentially can make hurlers devastating.

Cleavers has innate frenzy ability, by the way.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by HeathenSW:

Gives you 10% damage increase each time you attack or retaliate being attacked if I recall correctly. It lasts for 2 turns and all the gained stacks renew after another attack/retaliation.

So you attack one enemy and get +10% dmg for two turns, then the enemy attacks you and you get another +10% and so on. Enemy dies and you can't get to attack another in two turns - all the gained frenzy bonuses vanish and you must start anew.

That's also why that oak before clansmeet that gives frenzy with no rng is kind of a big deal. It's basically a free Loric's axe that uses no artifact slot.

A last tackled the game some year ago or so, so I may be mistaken about retaliation and I really am not sure if it works on ranged unit since I never tried it myself, keep that in mind. But it's still amazing on a unit that can take a beating and deliver it back the next turn.

Thanks; and yes, I gave the main character Frenzy at the Blood Oak! ;)

[HeathenSW]

Amazing, you gonna love his performance :D

I love plopping warcamp just underneath him, giving him an artifact with fortify, getting frenzy from either axe or that tree and just watch him be an impenetrable rock that everybody stupidly bash themselves with.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by HeathenSW:

Amazing, you gonna love his performance :D

I love plopping warcamp just underneath him, giving him an artifact with fortify, getting frenzy from either axe or that tree and just watch him be an impenetrable rock that everybody stupidly bash themselves with.

Ah, that's another idea. The main character can create an actual fort! I use it as a recruiting station, but I never thought of using it as an actual fortification! ;)