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patbarker222 Apr 7 @ 7:55pm
Issues with fights.
Had a half dozen wrecks with pirates and gave up and decided to fight. Ripped the dude apart but he just wouldn't die? Hit him 30 or 40 times with a machete and he was "blacking out" but just kept fighting. Eventually he killed me so I decided to ask if anyone else was having this issue?
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Ranix Apr 8 @ 12:06am 
I've been hitting them a couple times or shooting them once then making sure I have a gun out and ordering them to surrender, then I just have them take off their helmet
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patbarker222 Apr 8 @ 5:54am 
They won't surrender though, no matter how scared they get or how often I demand. And even on last patch I had no idea how to control the people who did surrender though that's probably my own fault.
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Geeves Apr 8 @ 6:58am 
Unpause, deselct the pirate, then right-click to interact with them again. Now you should have the option to "Strip". Do that. They'll die on their own eventually.

In my experience a baseball bat is the best weapon to deal with Pirates. Assuming you are built for combat, so far it has been a guaranteed one hit knockout every time. Strip them after and they die of suffocation.

Letting a pirate live is very buggy. I recommend not doing so. Things I've seen happen:

Brought to kleg - They were permanently quasi hostile after and constantly attempted to mug me, following me around the station. Police will not intervene, and you will be a criminal if you fight back.
Hired as crew - They'll be a criminal and constantly make you a target for police.
Left on their ship - Permanent target track from their ship (only when they board you) until you go back and murder them properly.
Last edited by Geeves; Apr 8 @ 7:06am
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patbarker222 Apr 8 @ 1:24pm 
I feel I should probably elaborate a bit. The pirate just doesn't die. He doesn't go down. He'll be coughing blood, blacking out, and covered in wounds and just run around till he decides to come back around and punch my character a couple times. I can hurt him but he will not die or pass out. He also refuses to surrender. Additionally, further testing showed this problem with other npcs. Okleg cops, other pirates, even other residents on Okleg won't die either.
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Xzystance:TTV Apr 8 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by patbarker222:
I feel I should probably elaborate a bit. The pirate just doesn't die. He doesn't go down. He'll be coughing blood, blacking out, and covered in wounds and just run around till he decides to come back around and punch my character a couple times. I can hurt him but he will not die or pass out. He also refuses to surrender. Additionally, further testing showed this problem with other npcs. Okleg cops, other pirates, even other residents on Okleg won't die either.

Wear your EVA suit, after you knock the a-hole out, strip him naked, use tools to punch a hole in the ships hull, then drag the body over the hole and select "jettison". Problem solved.
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Ranix Apr 8 @ 1:44pm 
unarmored KLEG people should die in 1-3 gunshots, if you can't kill them something is wrong with your save or something for sure
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Geeves Apr 8 @ 1:59pm 
Are you strictly using the machete? How is your strength? Are you weak, neutral, or strong? Have you tried using a baton or bat?
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patbarker222 Apr 8 @ 4:01pm 
Weak. My recent tests on a new save have me using a knife and crowbar with the same results. I'm stabbing this dude till his eva suit falls apart and he just keeps running away till he works up the nerve to come back and punch me in the head. Did check if any errors were showing in the top left and didn't see anything. Verify files came back clean. Might delete the entire folder and redownload. Kinda bummed about that cause my ships finally starting to look nice but needs must. And I need to kill these pirates.
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Ranix Apr 8 @ 4:42pm 
an EVA suit is a LOT of armor you might have to successfully stab them 30 or so times to destroy it
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patbarker222 Apr 8 @ 4:59pm 
Originally posted by Ranix:
an EVA suit is a LOT of armor you might have to successfully stab them 30 or so times to destroy it
I do. I literally stabbed this dude till the suit was destroyed, stabbed him till I couldn't chase him I was so exhausted, and he just walked away. Never fell over, never died, just worked up the courage to walk over and punch me in the head.
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patbarker222 Apr 8 @ 5:24pm 
Did delete the save folder and all installed files and that appears to have worked. Am regularly killing dudes in one crowbar strike now.:steamthumbsup:
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Ranix Apr 8 @ 6:33pm 
I often encounter an issue where the character will not deliver an item to a location and have to reload a save, it's like the location is valid and he's trying to do it but it never happens.

I also just, for the first time, had an issue where the character could not eat. It consumed Trenchers and deleted it but hunger never went down and the animation did not play.

Maybe there is an issue where certain actions just don't work anymore, and dying could be affected
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Ranix Apr 8 @ 6:42pm 
looks like that last one is because I smoked a strange cigarette I found on the floor in the flotilla and got high, lol, I reloaded a few times before I realized what was up
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Ranix Apr 11 @ 4:02am 
this definitely just happened to me, a pirate boarded my ship and I hacked him to bits. His EVA suit was totally destroyed. He was knocked down but got back up. Now he's bleeding and blacking out and can barely move but won't talk to me or answer. He defecated on the toilet and is now standing around
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Ranix Apr 11 @ 4:21am 
I got it, this happens reliably if I do this:

this is all in as few frames (seconds) as possible. When I say "airlock" I mean the actual door object, the thing you right click and it calls "Airlock"

1. wear an EVA suit, an EVA helmet, a handgun with 20 round of ammo in your right hand, and a machete in your left
2. get targeted by a pirate
3. stand in front of the airlock ready to open it
3. wait for the pirate to dock
4. open your airlock and pause
5. walk into your airlock
6. close the airlock on yourself
7. open the enemy airlock while clipping inside your closed airlock
8. wait for the pirate to open the door
9. shoot the pirate before he can talk to you
10. slash the pirate (to death) with the machete (or cutlass also works) the instant he gets within range

(alt. 10) slash the pirate so hard with the machete that he can die before he talks to you

then the pirate will get back up after death and be invulnerable in a strange bugged combat. I have, however, seen other npcs in this state. I think an npc in KLEG in the commercial zone became like this after witnessing me steal her crate and not calling the police, but I haven't tried to kill her so I can't be sure
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