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Frozz Nov 5, 2024 @ 12:12am
N2 gas storage question
Can we only store n2 inside the 1x1 N2 canister? Or can we use a bigger canister to store a larger amount?
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sir Evans Nov 5, 2024 @ 1:09am 
Long ago I've created a mod with 2x1 canisters.

I was actually thinking about re-creating it, but there is a problem with adding these to the shops in game.
The Haney Nov 5, 2024 @ 10:40pm 
It probably isn't intended and will eventually be patched out, but the large 3x3 canisters (He3, Cryo, D20) can store an unlimited amount of gas in addition to their normal resource. I have one currently filled with 577,965,429,288,111,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 kilopascals of Venusian atmosphere I use for my thrusters.
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Primus Nov 6, 2024 @ 3:47am 
Originally posted by The Haney:
It probably isn't intended and will eventually be patched out, but the large 3x3 canisters (He3, Cryo, D20) can store an unlimited amount of gas in addition to their normal resource. I have one currently filled with 577,965,429,288,111,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 kilopascals of Venusian atmosphere I use for my thrusters.
Hoıw do you fill the 3x3 tanks? By dropping them under the turbo pump's outlet?
sir Evans Nov 6, 2024 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by The Haney:
It probably isn't intended and will eventually be patched out, but the large 3x3 canisters (He3, Cryo, D20) can store an unlimited amount of gas in addition to their normal resource. I have one currently filled with 577,965,429,288,111,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 kilopascals of Venusian atmosphere I use for my thrusters.
Huh, I wanted to hear something like this :D

Nice, thanks for the tip.
sir Evans Nov 6, 2024 @ 4:58am 
Eh, this does not look like a bug, more like a feature.
Seems like devs stealthily added possibility to store tons of gas inside these large tanks. Maybe it is for development builds or something? But anyway, good to have this.
Shenji Nov 6, 2024 @ 8:32pm 
Originally posted by The Haney:
It probably isn't intended and will eventually be patched out, but the large 3x3 canisters (He3, Cryo, D20) can store an unlimited amount of gas in addition to their normal resource. I have one currently filled with 577,965,429,288,111,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 kilopascals of Venusian atmosphere I use for my thrusters.
Tried this, but how could you fill that much of gas? I used 9 turbo pumps and barely got 0.3 kPa in a D2O tank in 10 minutes(in-game time, super fast forward doesn't work).
Shenji Nov 6, 2024 @ 8:41pm 
Wait, how many kilograms of gas is that? I'm using an almost empty D2O tank (about 1900kg D2O left), gathered about 1000kg of CO2 (Venus atmo) in 20-30 or so minutes.
The Haney Nov 7, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
It's not many CO2 kg, surprisingly. It's almost entirely sulfiric acid providing the kpa.

Honestly, this particular situation may have been some weird glitch, but it's still providing me "infinity" kilometers of dv.
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Shenji Nov 7, 2024 @ 8:01pm 
I liberated a back room on VENC and built myself a refill room, 9 pumps worked for about 2 game hours only gave me about 15000kg of Venus air, 99% of them is CO2. Maybe something wrong on Venus.
Now I have 450% of RCS fuel, not too bad.
Shenji Nov 7, 2024 @ 8:05pm 
Just realized, with that insane kind of pressure, the thing in your tank should far far far far... far beyond the phase of solid. I think maybe you made a controllable blackhole, that's where the infinity power came from ;)
sir Evans Nov 8, 2024 @ 12:49am 
Can you chain pumps and tanks?
Build tank next to a 6 wall pumps, another one next to 3 and one pump to move it down, and the one to the right next to 6, then a second row, where 6 pumps suck in atmo, 3 move it to final tank, final tank, and another tank?

Something like this:

########
#T - T - T#
#.|......|......|#
#T - T - T#
###|...|###
__#.....#__

That could refil 5 tanks, pumps would move atmo from these to the final tank, should be quite a lot of atmo to harvest.
Shenji Nov 8, 2024 @ 1:57am 
You can connect 12 pumps to one single big tank, so of course you can link as many as possible tanks together. Only problem is even turbo pump is much slower than expected (at least my expectation), and currently super fast forward doesn't work in this case. Actually you can't even leave the current district or the refill will frozen in the "background".

Though a huge RCS storage does help when visiting low-gravity vacuum-environment ground stations like Jade Rabbit, it's not useful when visiting higher gravity environment like VENC. But I guess you can make some really weird/maniacal design by doing this.
sir Evans Nov 8, 2024 @ 8:32am 
Is 12 pumps at one canister faster than 6 pumps each on two separate canisters? I'm wondering how this stuff works in game.
Shenji Nov 8, 2024 @ 9:08pm 
I think it's just plain mathematics, 1+1=2=1+1 kind of.
sir Evans Nov 9, 2024 @ 4:08am 
I was just curious if there is no throttle somewhere in code that fills the tank up.
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