Age of Empires Vs Total War Games.

[Talion 2024.]

Good morning everyone. I have a question regarding the two strategy game franchises which pride themselves on historical accuracy, game-play experience and atmosphere.

Out of the two, which would you say reigns supreme in the real-time strategy genre, Age of Empires or Total War?

I for one am new to the real time strategy game genre, and would like to get into it by first purchasing a game which is worth playing for the above-mentioned reasons.

[Talion 2024.]

Origineel geplaatst door James3157:

I do not think it is fair to compare these two games. The reason is because AoE: DE is based on an old game that was abandoned after DE came out while Rome: Total War on the other can be a very time consuming game that can take a long time to win, but it also has replay ability as well (although, to be fair Rome: Total War is also an old game as well). AoE: DE in contrast might have replay ability involving campaigns, but not to the same extent as Rome: Total War in addition to the fact that Rome: Total War can have much bigger armies as well than AoE: DE meaning that it can be more challenging as well than AoE: DE ever will be besides maybe the hardest difficulty AI setting for skirmishes where it is very difficult to win skirmishes without cheating even for pro players. Not to mention as well that if you play Rome Total War: Barbarian Invasion it could potentially overlap AoE II: DE as well, because it is based on after the Roman Empire had split.

Noted. Thanks for the info.

[Ming]

You're gonna want to play age of empires 2 DE. Especially if you like to play matchmaking with a ranking system. It is POPPING. Takes a while to get good, but then it gets really fun

[Talion 2024.]

Origineel geplaatst door Ming:

You're gonna want to play age of empires 2 DE. Especially if you like to play matchmaking with a ranking system. It is POPPING. Takes a while to get good, but then it gets really fun

Many thanks. I'll keep that in mind.

[Talion 2024.]

To prevent this discussion from dragging on needlessly, I would like you all to know that I have purchased Halo MCC, as one gets six games for 9.99 euros during a major Steam Sale.

Can't complain about paying so little for six triple AAA games that have aged like fine wine.

Thank you all though for your help.

Perhaps during the next major Steam Sale, I will check out those games you have mentioned so far.

[Lotor13]

Origineel geplaatst door GenuinelyEric:

I mean... You can't go wrong with Rome: Total War. Any of the earlier Total War games are incredible.

I would actually reccomend to avaid Rome Total War

Go for Shogun 2 TW, Napoleon, or Rome 2, if You are interesting specifically in Bronze age - new Troy and Pharaoh

[Lotor13]

@MasterChief2023

In the case , that You are interested in Age of Empires 1 or its ancient era

I reccomens its port into AoE2 DE

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2141580/Age_of_Empires_II_Definitive_Edition__Return_of_Rome/

Do not buy this original AoE1 definitive edition, go for Return of Rome instead, which is far superior

[Talion 2024.]

Origineel geplaatst door Lotor13:

Origineel geplaatst door GenuinelyEric:

I mean... You can't go wrong with Rome: Total War. Any of the earlier Total War games are incredible.

I would actually reccomend to avaid Rome Total War

Go for Shogun 2 TW, Napoleon, or Rome 2, if You are interesting specifically in Bronze age - new Troy and Pharaoh

Noted. Though wasn't Pharaoh considered a flop by many fans?

[Talion 2024.]

Origineel geplaatst door Lotor13:

@MasterChief2023

In the case , that You are interested in Age of Empires 1 or its ancient era

I reccomens its port into AoE2 DE

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2141580/Age_of_Empires_II_Definitive_Edition__Return_of_Rome/

Do not buy this original AoE1 definitive edition, go for Return of Rome instead, which is far superior

Noted. Many thanks.

[DARKO]

Buy age of empires 1 2 and Age of Mythology is must have (except china dlc)

age of empires 3+4 only on huge discounts, also some new Aoe2 DLCs are overpriced so wait for decent discount until they cost like 2-3 bucks (always just 3 campaigns with 5 missions)

Total war - buy Medieval 2 and Rome 1 (if you can ,try to buy original one not remaster bs), Shogun 2 is fine too

Rome 2 is mixed bag (it started dlc fest , even Sparta was cut out to dlc like wtf...) and i dont care about others, TW TROY was wasted potential (that mythos dlc should be in base game!) New TW Warhammers are are just DLC fest, basically they cut content to overpriced DLCs (so i don't recommend it - DON BUY IT)

SETTLERS 5 6 ARE NICE STRATEGY GAMES

Conan Unconquere was decent, but is overpriced for content it offers


For topic, age of empires is RTS game and Total war is Grand strategy with realtime battles, they are just different genre...

I love Age of empires for nice campaigns, Total war campaigns are almost nonexistent, except for some texts and some nice historical buildings...

I really dont care much about multiplayer, but if i play then i play Age of empires because it have nice dynamics where you build base at start and then manage battles.

I wish for more variety maps with some dynamic events and some thirparty enemies that attack evrybody , or protect bonus resources or something, i really dont like sterile mirrored maps for RANKED matches , they are so boring...

Coop campaign missions are FANTASTIC!!!

[DARKO]

Origineel geplaatst door MasterChief2023.:

Origineel geplaatst door Lotor13:

@MasterChief2023

In the case , that You are interested in Age of Empires 1 or its ancient era

I reccomens its port into AoE2 DE

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2141580/Age_of_Empires_II_Definitive_Edition__Return_of_Rome/

Do not buy this original AoE1 definitive edition, go for Return of Rome instead, which is far superior

Noted. Many thanks.

No buy original Definitive Edition now, DLC is overpriced and contain only few original campaigns!!!

Rather buy AoE1De now for 5 bucks and buy this dlc later when is on huge sale

[Talion 2024.]

Origineel geplaatst door DARKO:

Buy age of empires 1 2 and Age of Mythology is must have (except china dlc)

age of empires 3+4 only on huge discounts, also some new Aoe2 DLCs are overpriced so wait for decent discount until they cost like 2-3 bucks (always just 3 campaigns with 5 missions)

Total war - buy Medieval 2 and Rome 1 (if you can ,try to buy original one not remaster bs), Shogun 2 is fine too

Rome 2 is mixed bag (it started dlc fest , even Sparta was cut out to dlc like wtf...) and i dont care about others, TW TROY was wasted potential (that mythos dlc should be in base game!) New TW Warhammers are are just DLC fest, basically they cut content to overpriced DLCs (so i don't recommend it - DON BUY IT)

SETTLERS 5 6 ARE NICE STRATEGY GAMES

Conan Unconquere was decent, but is overpriced for content it offers


For topic, age of empires is RTS game and Total war is Grand strategy with realtime battles, they are just different genre...

I love Age of empires for nice campaigns, Total war campaigns are almost nonexistent, except for some texts and some nice historical buildings...

I really dont care much about multiplayer, but if i play then i play Age of empires because it have nice dynamics where you build base at start and then manage battles.

I wish for more variety maps with some dynamic events and some thirparty enemies that attack evrybody , or protect bonus resources or something, i really dont like sterile mirrored maps for RANKED matches , they are so boring...

Coop campaign missions are FANTASTIC!!!

Thanks.

[James3157]

Not everyone prefers RoR dlc over AoE: DE, but I still play both games even if I play both of them infrequently and spend a lot more time on AoE II: DE than both combined. I also only play both RoR (except for maybe the new Roman civilization on AoE II: DE) and AoE: DE casually instead of frequently.

[Chrixcalibur]

Neither, because both have toxic fanbases.

[Talion 2024.]

Origineel geplaatst door CaptainHeckYeah:

Neither, because both have toxic fanbases.

Noted. Thank you.

[FloosWorld]

To add my (belated) two cents - could overlap with things others already said:

- Total War and AoE are two entirely different games. AoE is RTS with emphasis on base building and managing economy and military whereas Total War is turn-based strategy with an optional real time part and truth to be told - the battles in Total War are fantastic to look at!

- AoE 1 has been ported into AoE 2 as part of the "Return of Rome" DLC which means AoE 1 benefits from the improvements AoE 2 brought to the series such as units walking in formations or being able to buy and sell resources in the market to balance your economy to name two

- There's currently a mod called "Rome at War" or "Romane ad Bellum" for AoE 2 that puts its focus more on Bronze and Iron Age than AoE 1 does as AoE 1 also features Stone Age, so the very dawn of humanity. Spirit of the Law (one of AoE's best known content creators) covered the mod in one of his videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAMoX16Ku6U

- I'd also like to give a shoutout to 0 AD which is an RTS set in antiquity: https://play0ad.com/ - it's been in Alpha for a long time now but definitely fun to play.

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Btw this dude

Origineel geplaatst door CaptainHeckYeah:

Neither, because both have toxic fanbases.

Is banned on the AoE 2 DE game hub for constant trolling, so I wouldn't read too much into their words.