Beat the game. Thoughts *spoilers*.

[omspecialk]

This game hurt me quite a bit, ive seen a lot of ntr and never felt much at all. This game? It really drove home the concept of real powerlessness.

My thoughts on each character:


Imos -

unlike many who seem to dog pile Imos for being weak, hes the reflection of the powerless majority. The key thing is...he showed almost inhuman levels of mental fortitude, something most of us cannot relate to.

The things he saw and lived with, the fact he had the brass balls to keep fighting and losing to someone much stronger than his is something that should be acknowledged.

He even had the self awareness to realize killing the bandits wouldve made his rescue Aina attempts easier but didnt betray himself to do it, something i feel many would have succumbed to as we got more and more desparate.

It took SO MUCH to finally break him and send him down the dark path and even then fought for the very people who gave up on him or betrayed him which in the end remained true to his character.




Tori -

The little sister, their dynamic at the beginning was reasonable. She cared for Imos but knew he was weak and got angry at him for taking stupid risks which is a basic form of a sibling relationship.

When she was ♥♥♥♥♥ and hid it from Imos it was on some level understandable, if she couldnt protect herself how could Imos, someone weaker than her, protect her.

All telling him would do is make him do something stupid.

Ace and his influence on her grew over time, the moment she chose to drink the aphrodisiacs herself was a resignation to her situation.

She couldnt protect herself from Ace

She knew Imos was too weak to protect her.

But she the stupid thing she did was not seek out help from the Prince, Aina or Lotia to at least TRY to change the situation.

Instead she gave up, which on some level is understandable, and over time admitted that Ace was warping her.

That she became someone who easily harmed the weak, she was aware and chose to fall anyway, this is what damaged her character.

Her tossing money at her brother and basically telling him to worry about himself set in some key points: She realized no one could help her so she became one of them and over time worse for it.

She closed off any support that couldve kept her together mentally. 

The only thing i can say that saved what little of her humanity was left was Ace not telling her the aphrodisiacs/ poisons she created was used to frame and destroy her brother.

Ace getting his hands cut off entirely was a wonderful outcome, hes almost useless now for the rest of his life.

Tori choosing to take care of him at this point is purely from both Stockholm, Cruel Irony and because she had no one else anymore, she threw away her brother and her friends, which means she will have to take care of Ace, her child and be the bread winner.


Lotia -

We all knew she would end up in bed with Thrash somehow, it was HOW it happened that helped make her irredeemable in the end.

Between Imos seeing in her eyes that she gave up in his growth and her allowing a prostitute from Thrashes town and an extremely suspect set up by Thrash cause her to no longer trust the mc solidified how stupid she was.

Its as if she completely forgot that if a magical dragon doesnt give her her super powers every month she also becomes nothing but a weak human, it lends itself that these blessed individuals hold some level of arrogance and forget that they are only special because something allowed them to be.

It also made me very doubtful her "love" was real, it seemed less like love and more like "safety".




But DURING their stay she was already becoming attracted to the man that was actively destroying the lives of her friends and people.

When she allowed Thrash to have sex with her under the guise that he had to treat Imos better I saw a few things about her character that finally came together:

*For someone who claimed to love Imos as much as she did, she gave up on him faster than his sister did and with less stress and suffering on her part, she was not beaten, she was not threatened, she wasnt ♥♥♥♥♥.

*She was by comparison of almost everyone else in the cast practically royalty in treatment.

*The fact that she would believe a prostitue, over the person she knew since childhood, that lives in the town of the man who tried to ♥♥♥♥ her AND listen to the man who tried to drug her by giving HIM, of all ppl, the benefit of the doubt was completely insane.

*The fact that the prostitute made her see the man she claimed she loved as less of a man because he wasnt given special powers.

*The fact that she never found it strange about the events that took place concerning the poison considering Imos did not have any pharmaceutical skills, hes been scrubbing toilets for months, where did he have time to do all of this?

*Challenging Thrash, a known coniving thug, piliger and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to a sex battle...really?

*Doping up on Aphrodisiacs every day made her horny, her subconscious attraction after she compares Thrashes strength vs Imos as a postive made her "request" to have Thrash treat Imos better was almost too easy to see as an excuse to have sex with the man she was subconsciously attracted to.


*The fact that she got angery at Imos for supposedly having sex with a prostitute ,after all the sexual favors she was giving thrash, and never once seeking the truth from him points to her "love" for him being very weak in practice.

*Her getting mad at Imos made her a massive hypocrite ESPECIALLY after it was brought to her attention Imos saw all the things she did for and with Thrash, she began looking for excuses but found none.

*Her reaction after finding out Thrash kept his promise by forcing the man she claims to love to listen and watch her have sex, watch her end up enjoying it, with the man who tortured Imos and destroyed her friends lives was pathetic, she didnt yell at Thrash for further torturing Imos, breaking his promise thus proving the prostitute a liar, she didnt run down to try and explain herself , because deep down she knew their relationship was over, all she did was cry about how SHE felt then...went back to having sex with Thrash.



*The fact that the man she claimed she loved was finally so physically and mentally tortured to the brink of suicide and showed 0 empathy. 0 communication on her part and lack of faith.

*She claims she never forgave Thrash for all the suffering he caused Imos but she comes running to defend Thrash tooth and nail and doesnt understand what pushed Imos to become a monster.

*She whole heatredly admits Thrash was a bad person but defends him anyway, she gave Thrash far more courtesy and leeway than she ever gave Imos.

*And she still after a year proved she didnt understand his pain or what pushed him into becoming a demon lord, the fact that her first response to seeing the death of her capturer, destroyer of her life and everyone elses was to try and kill Imos on sight.

*The fact that she only sought answers AFTER failing to kill him. Ending 3 shows after she beats you she immediately kills you without question. Which means the only thing that finally got her to respect him enough to look for answers was the fact he was STRONGER than her, their childhood friendship? Meant nothing. Her man torturing imos into suicide? Meant nothing. Her betrayal? Meant nothing. The beatings he took? Nada

Only -power- made her listen which speaks volumes about what really mattered to her in the end.

*The fact that she was looking for excuses for her messed up actions, that she didnt even mildly think anything was her fault showed how truly little self awareness she had.

*Imos calling her out on her affection for Thrash and what she did was an amazing display, most weak mcs would never have called her out.

*The fact that after she was called out by Imos for being in love with Thrash and making bad decisions like pumping out his kids she began saying insane things like "he finally started treating her better" "that he was BECOMING a good man" tells me she liked the IDEA of Imos but she wanted a strong man like Thrash.

*Basically if you take her thoughts when she laid down with thrash, her believing the prostitute about being the bread winner and Lotias own words in the end she wanted a man with Thrashs strength but Imos kindness, to her it would be easier to slowly get Thrash to become a good person than it would be to depend on Imos to support her.

*Her reasoning and view that her putting up with Thrashes abuse and being his wife was for Imos, the man she basically gave up on and on many levels betrayed and helped mentally destroy, and by turning Thrash into a good person her sacrifice wouldve meant something despite driving Imos to nearly commit suicide.

*Her reasoning that Imos was now as evil as Thrash and that his powers only existed to harm people never held up under scrutiny. Imos never killed an innocent person, he killed numerous rapists like shum and Thrashs gang members amd Thrash himself.

*Thrash and Co on the other hand used their powers to actively harm and exploit the world they lived in, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ women, killing men completely contradicting everything Lotia said.


*In the end her anger boils down to the fact she chose an evil man, who is now dead, while being stuck with 2 children, and all her "effort" of making that evil man less of a piece of ♥♥♥♥ is now "wasted", she lost a provider because karma caught up to an evil man she chose to be with.

*Every excuse she came up with fell apart in practice.


*Only after she was dying did she apologize and even then i felt 0 pity for her, i couldn't fathom who or what she was apologizing for because i highly doubt the moment her clone stabbed her she suddenly gained the self awareness to realize all the crap she pulled in under 5 seconds. She dug her heels too deep for me to believe it.

I may sound harsh but she was equally the animal Thrash was but on a different spectrum. I feel like both her and Thrash got off too easily by dying, not once did either of them have to really face what they did.

In the end Lotia was a woman that wanted to be taken care of by someone strong, she never really loved Imos, she easily gave up on him and let bad people get into her head to justify wanting to have sex with Thrash and why she chose Thrash over Imos, and when Imos finally snapped she demonstrated she never understood his pain or even really knew anything about him. 

Their attempt at making me feel pity fell flat because they had to make her the dumbest character imaginable AND a hypocrite to try and absolve her of the situation she put herself into, instead they made me hate her as much as i hated Thrash. I think i hate her more because Thrash was at least honest about being a PoS whereas Lotia refused to ever be honest and used Imos as an excuse.



Aina-

in the end she was the true Heroine and friend, she never betrayed the MC, figures out Imos was set up so fast it was downright insulting how stupid she made Lotia look and had the heart to thank Imos for all of his sacrifices.

Out of all the things that happened to her, she got it the worst of all the girls and didnt break, betray or give up in the end. I honestly wish she ended up with Imos but thats not that kind of story.

Her ability to call out the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t of the Prince and his niavete was staggering, it was something i didnt expect considering.

She was a redeeming light to this story even in her pessimistic state.



Thrash-

This guy was a well thought out villian. Not because he had some grand reasoning behind being a massive piece of ♥♥♥♥, he was not some mirror to the mcs psyche like the joker, he was just a thug a bandit who was given the strongest powers.

Hes the merge between the power of a chosen one and the bandit leader youre sent to defeat in a basic RPG, with the looks of the classic blonde, tan, ripped bad boy the corrupts young/married women found in your typical doujins.

What sets him apart from other villains isnt he himself, its the complete lack of effort on anyone elses part to stop him from doing whatever he wanted. He KNEW he was the strongest and actively exploited his powers.

The dragons warned the group about him and the things he does (something a certain moron conveniently forgets and then later lets slide) and that never once aims any suspect lights onto the dragons who GAVE AN EVIL MAN THE STRONGEST POWERS let alone multiple evil men.

His very existence was actively contradicting the goal of saving the world by him using his powers to spread pain and misery.

So not only did he ♥♥♥♥ and pillage villages, step on the weak and kill, he had absolutely no intention of actually putting in effort to "save" the world. He was going to do as little as he could possibly get away with to keep doing what he was doing.

And not a soul put in an honest try to actually try stop him, his town was right outside the capital.

Its really no wonder WHY he continued to do what he did, he committed numerous crimes completely unmitigated and unchallenged by his peers.

He was a piece of ♥♥♥♥ but after a certain point, especially after Lotia basically confirmed what i suspected, i cant even blame him when hes actively REWARDED for being a villian and a bully.

Imos finally beating him didnt teach him a lesson, there was nothing to learn. Infact Imos leading up to killing Thrash only confirmed Thrashs ideologies were correct, that only power meant anything and everything else came with it, and nearly everyone Imos knew practically confirmed it all except Aina, who was ♥♥♥♥♥ and tortured for an entire year.



The Dragons - holy ♥♥♥♥ that was a face turn on a level i didnt expect.

See im used to the whole Benevolent gods of the world turn out to be evil trope.

But how far down the rabbit hole this went was vile.

The Ice Dragon was a-ok with Shum ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Aina, stripping her of everything so she would be forced to give birth to a more powerful candidate.

The fact that the Earth (Thrash element) and Lightning (Lotias element) dragons were lovers and actively set in motion all the events that happened to everyone including the theory why Lotia eventually became attracted to Thrash was vile as ♥♥♥♥, while they noted in the end it was Lotias sole choice they figured the theory would work.

The fact that they somewhat hinted that they are why Thrash is as evil as he is and that they straight up sent him right to Lotia, to manipulate him into fighting the demon lord, was equally as messed up.

The Wind dragon wasnt much of a character tbh, same with the fire dragon.

The Dragon Goddess was equally as messed up by setting all this in motion purely to create more powerful/beautiful humans was also a weird plan because they inadvertently created their own destroyer in the process.

The part where she offhandedly mentioned that Imos couldve helped her build a new world but cant because he was a demon lord was insulting considering the world she made currently was practically designed to ♥♥♥♥ on and kill off people like Imos, he never had any possible way to make it to her realm in the first place had he not become a monster.

The fact that the Dark Dragon chose to allow the goddess to be reborn knowing all the suffering she would one day cause made me feel like Imos sacrifice was watered down a bit but maybe something might change this time

[omspecialk]

Between the Mc being punished for being a good guy, the main love interest being a massive hypocrite and the primary antagonist being rewarded for his ♥♥♥♥♥♥ behavior with love, sex and a family and all the other back stabbing and betrayals in between.

It was a good story about the good being punished and the wicked being rewarded and only in the very end did a POSSIBLE change occur.

My thoughts on ending 4 are not as sweet as other peoples impressions

So basically he lets Thrash live, and gives up on Lotia completely. 

Now he lives as a merc with the dragon loli and has to regularly kill the monsters she births to keep the "heros" off their trails


This also means Thrash was also keeping the heros off Imos trail thus Thrash paying his life debt to Imos and Imos simultaneously being in Thrashs debt

The only person that was saved was Aina and no one really knows what happened after that and considering the worlds going to ♥♥♥♥ i dont see her having a good end

Its a bitter ending in Imos perspective he had to give up on Lotia and leave her with the man who destroyed his, and all his friends lives, and it doesnt imply Thrash ever became a better person. 

Imos position now is that of someone who will be put under extreme scrutiny and prejudice if he or the loli are ever caught, they will not be treated fairly.

The Lolis perspective is a better one, she has someone she cares for and treats far better than anyone else ever did, hoping to have a child and in the end does her best for him despite that he no longer eats and barely sleeps. 

Its a bitter dark ending because the dragons were not punished, someone else will be put in Imos shoes but there will be no Dark Dragon to assist this person

And all the people who shouldve been confronted for their part in turning Imos into a monster, never were.

Lotia would continue with the blatantly false notion that her betrayal was for Imos sake, her self righteousness and hypocritical behavior never brought to her attention. She will continue to try and change the evil man she fell in love with to justify what she did to Imos and effectively reward Thrash.

Tori would still be at the manipulation and mercy of Ace, brewing poisons and aphrodisiacs and being a broken pregnant drug addict thats neglected by Ace.

Aina would, in best case scenario, go back to her kingdom while the worlds desire ran rampant so she may not meet a good end anyway.

Assim continues to be an ignorant fool he is.

And so on. The ending was...bleak.

This was a good rpgm vn and i hope they never EVER do another one.

[Pay Child Suport]

as for the events leading to ending 3, I believe that Lotia thinks Imos became the demon lord. maybe she couldn't forgive him, but maybe it's more like she can't forgive herself since Imos became the very monster they are trying to kill. or at least totally convinced he became one. not surprising really. looking at ending 4 where they thought Aru was the demon lord and they "defeated" said demon lord and thus achieving peace when in reality it's just the loli (the true demon lord) decided to have a quiet life with Imos.

the fact that Lotia clone killed her original is proof to me that, if nothing else, she truly loved Imos before all this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ came to light. Thrash is a sly and clever trickster. yes she's a product of Stockholm.

*The fact that she was looking for excuses for her messed up actions, that she didnt even mildly think anything was her fault showed how truly little self awareness she had.

heh, you should see how the modern progressive waman will spin so much mental gymnastics just so she can find a way to not blame herself. If you've been to twitter and such, and I'm not joking here, a modern waman will blame HER OWN LEGS as to why she suddenly ended up in a bar, drunk, and you know what. back when I was playing the fan TL of this game I remember being so angry at Lotia for not giving Imos a chance to explain himself. but after seeing twitter? this is just typical female nature.

[Pay Child Suport]

This was a good rpgm vn and i hope they never EVER do another one.

it's not like I don't get where you're coming from, but let me ask when was the last time you got yourself this much great detail to character writing in any medium ever? and it's not like it tried to milk the franchise unlike, say, Game of Thrones where it's been 8 seasons and barely anything happened. or Harry Potter. no really, when was the last time you got yourself this much detail to writing?

[omspecialk]

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:

as for the events leading to ending 3, I believe that Lotia thinks Imos became the demon lord. maybe she couldn't forgive him, but maybe it's more like she can't forgive herself since Imos became the very monster they are trying to kill. or at least totally convinced he became one. not surprising really. looking at ending 4 where they thought Aru was the demon lord and they "defeated" said demon lord and thus achieving peace when in reality it's just the loli (the true demon lord) decided to have a quiet life with Imos.

the fact that Lotia clone killed her original is proof to me that, if nothing else, she truly loved Imos before all this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ came to light. Thrash is a sly and clever trickster. yes she's a product of Stockholm.

Dunno, i tried to give her every excuse i could think of before the year time skip falls flat. I cant say she was stockholmed until after the time skip but shes aware of her mistakes when called out.

The clone i dont think, personally, proved anything. What i understood was the clone wasnt Lotia, it was Imos niave idealism of the people he couldnt protect, a wish for images of his happier days, they were born from his despair and the goal was to make everything go back ro the way it was.

Imos himself, in the kagura translation at least, pretty much tells her she was in love with Thrash at first sight (stole your heart) (and the dragons say as much as well) imo what Lotia felt towards Imos was familiarity and safety while clinging to a marriage confession made between young children.

When actually pressured for her reasons she didnt really have any that werent generic. When put in practice she gave up on him extremely fast when it came to something as simple as trust.

[omspecialk]

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:

This was a good rpgm vn and i hope they never EVER do another one.

it's not like I don't get where you're coming from, but let me ask when was the last time you got yourself this much great detail to character writing in any medium ever? and it's not like it tried to milk the franchise unlike, say, Game of Thrones where it's been 8 seasons and barely anything happened. or Harry Potter. no really, when was the last time you got yourself this much detail to writing?

Rare which is why i dont believe they should milk it, a few try and it ruins a story on avg.

[Pay Child Suport]

Originally posted by omspecialk:

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:

as for the events leading to ending 3, I believe that Lotia thinks Imos became the demon lord. maybe she couldn't forgive him, but maybe it's more like she can't forgive herself since Imos became the very monster they are trying to kill. or at least totally convinced he became one. not surprising really. looking at ending 4 where they thought Aru was the demon lord and they "defeated" said demon lord and thus achieving peace when in reality it's just the loli (the true demon lord) decided to have a quiet life with Imos.

the fact that Lotia clone killed her original is proof to me that, if nothing else, she truly loved Imos before all this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ came to light. Thrash is a sly and clever trickster. yes she's a product of Stockholm.

Dunno, i tried to give her every excuse i could think of before the year time skip falls flat. I cant say she was stockholmed until after the time skip but shes aware of her mistakes when called out.

The clone i dont think, personally, proved anything. What i understood was the clone wasnt Lotia, it was Imos niave idealism of the people he couldnt protect, a wish for images of his happier days, they were born from his despair and the goal was to make everything go back ro the way it was.

Imos himself, in the kagura translation at least, pretty much tells her she was in love with Thrash at first sight (stole your heart) (and the dragons say as much as well) imo what Lotia felt towards Imos was familiarity and safety while clinging to a marriage confession made between young children.

When actually pressured for her reasons she didnt really have any that werent generic. When put in practice she gave up on him extremely fast when it came to something as simple as trust.

you're probably right. ending 3 is just horrible no matter how you look at it. trust me I'm not defending this thot in what she did there. EVEN IF Imos was the true demon king, that would just mean she's no match against Imos and maybe she's hurrying to kill him? ehh no way. she's just irredeemable. He's still her childhood friend no matter what happened. she never gave him any chance of explaining until she got defeated (and later killed by her clone).

My understanding of Lotia clone is basically Lotia minus the Stockholm and/or typical female nature. to a clone who can view the original's events both from 1stperson and 3rdperson, the original was simply unforgivable. the fact the clone killed the original means the clone has retained the original's love to Imos. at least before Thrash trashed everything.

Rare which is why i dont believe they should milk it, a few try and it ruins a story on avg.

exactly. this was a great gem to play. even though I'll never play it twice. I'm honored and humbled really.

[Pay Child Suport]

My thoughts on ending 4 are not as sweet as other peoples impressions

So basically he lets Thrash live, and gives up on Lotia completely.

Now he lives as a merc with the dragon loli and has to regularly kill the monsters she births to keep the "heros" off their trails

This also means Thrash was also keeping the heros off Imos trail thus Thrash paying his life debt to Imos and Imos simultaneously being in Thrashs debt

The only person that was saved was Aina and no one really knows what happened after that and considering the worlds going to ♥♥♥♥ i dont see her having a good end

Its a bitter ending in Imos perspective he had to give up on Lotia and leave her with the man who destroyed his, and all his friends lives, and it doesnt imply Thrash ever became a better person. .

first of all, Imos has little reason to stay faithful to Lotia since he himself left the village. he already gave up on Lotia at that point (chapter 9?). showing mercy to Thrash was not because of pity, but because Lotia """needs""" him. I know, Stockholm. but Imos wasn't with her when she needed him. and her not being with him when he needed her.

and then Thrash is under the impression that Imos is the demon king (it's the loli). so I doubt he'll do anything too reckless since he just proved he can hunt him down effortlessly now. he'll have to behave on many points. as long as Thrash doesn't know it's the loli there's little reason for Imos to feel grateful to the PoS. not that anyone knows the loli's existence. a little behaving on Thrash is all what Imos wants (a very admirable mental fortitude).

Personally I'd still say that there's still a very small chance of Thrash to be redeemed. at the end of the day he's just an arrogant thug and that his power made him that much arrogant. a good beating is all it would take for that arrogance to be dispelled. unlike Lotia. Imos hit a jackpot with hitting a loli wife instead of still being blind to what will amount to an irredeemable thot.

[omspecialk]

Originally posted by Tentacle Grape:

My thoughts on ending 4 are not as sweet as other peoples impressions

So basically he lets Thrash live, and gives up on Lotia completely.

Now he lives as a merc with the dragon loli and has to regularly kill the monsters she births to keep the "heros" off their trails

This also means Thrash was also keeping the heros off Imos trail thus Thrash paying his life debt to Imos and Imos simultaneously being in Thrashs debt

The only person that was saved was Aina and no one really knows what happened after that and considering the worlds going to ♥♥♥♥ i dont see her having a good end

Its a bitter ending in Imos perspective he had to give up on Lotia and leave her with the man who destroyed his, and all his friends lives, and it doesnt imply Thrash ever became a better person. .

first of all, Imos has little reason to stay faithful to Lotia since he himself left the village. he already gave up on Lotia at that point (chapter 9?). showing mercy to Thrash was not because of pity, but because Lotia """needs""" him. I know, Stockholm. but Imos wasn't with her when she needed him. and her not being with him when he needed her.

and then Thrash is under the impression that Imos is the demon king (it's the loli). so I doubt he'll do anything too reckless since he just proved he can hunt him down effortlessly now. he'll have to behave on many points. as long as Thrash doesn't know it's the loli there's little reason for Imos to feel grateful to the PoS. not that anyone knows the loli's existence. a little behaving on Thrash is all what Imos wants (a very admirable mental fortitude).

Personally I'd still say that there's still a very small chance of Thrash to be redeemed. at the end of the day he's just an arrogant thug and that his power made him that much arrogant. a good beating is all it would take for that arrogance to be dispelled. unlike Lotia. Imos hit a jackpot with hitting a loli wife instead of still being blind to what will amount to an irredeemable thot.

He left the village to go kill himself, something he wouldve succeeded in doing if not for Al stopping him. He still loved Lotia proven by his reaction in the true ending.

Ending 4 doesnt suddenly mean he doesnt love her anymore, of course he had to give up on her or hed deprive her children of a father and provider.


Imos wasn't with her because he got mind-broken into attempting suicide by the power couple, him "being with her" wouldve resulted in even worse torture than what Thrash made him watch for 3 straight days.

Imos himself says he feels indebted to Thrash for guiding the Dracoliths off his trail, he makes mention of it being Thrash paying his life debt but understands the irony in Thrash doing so.

Thrash had absolutely no reason to do that, he couldve lead the Dracoliths straight to Imos and Imos would've lost (because he didnt give in fully to the dark).

There was no evidence that Thrash behaved or changed much at all, the exchanged ended with Imos being at the existential disadvantage.

While i agree Thrash MAY have a small light at being redeemed Imos ending up the way he did is a pretty dark situation under the lense.

He ends up with a girl that treats him really well at the cost he must kill her monsters she has 0 choice but to birth, he cannot sleep and cannot eat, the only thing he feels is stoicism and sex on some level.

Hes damaged in a strange way and stuck with a new burden while the Dragons continue to make the world worse, all the people he loved? Gone or threw him away, the people who ruined him? Only 1 paid a consequence and the rest went unpunished

The next person to take Imos place? The events will be doomed to repeat.

I cant see it as a good thing, you just arguably lost a little less than you wouldve but it feels like that route was pointless, Imos takes Als place and when Imos dies the new guy will be the one the loli takes care of.

[Pay Child Suport]

Imos himself says he feels indebted to Thrash for guiding the Dracoliths off his trail, he makes mention of it being Thrash paying his life debt but understands the irony in Thrash doing so.

Thrash had absolutely no reason to do that, he couldve lead the Dracoliths straight to Imos and Imos would've lost (because he didnt give in fully to the dark).

maybe this is how I got the impression that Thrash can still be redeemed unlike Lotia. like you said, he had no reason to. doing this is a small proof that Thrash is changing even if slowly and slightly.

He ends up with a girl that treats him really well at the cost he must kill her monsters she has 0 choice but to birth, he cannot sleep and cannot eat, the only thing he feels is stoicism and sex on some level.

The next person to take Imos place? The events will be doomed to repeat.

well someone has to do it. I would if it means a loli is my reward. and now that you bring that up, it does feel like loli-chan had it way worse than Imos. and let's be honest, she was his only real ally. Next to Aina (the ice princess) at least.

[Berkan]

This was a really unique game, every time i remember i feel sad. Reading your thoughts was enjoyable, it helped me to understand the game better, thanks.

[omspecialk]

No problem. I guess in the end my frustration stems from how rushed the ending felt.

Usually in these final confrontations people are forced to meet who they really are or the mc at least grows into someone who can stand on their own.

Instead the ending trade between Imos and Thrash left a lot to be desired and Thrash died continuing to not really be a character.

Imos and Lotia was downright nonsensical under scrutiny with numerous things like her logic not adding up, Imos had every chance to counter everything she said (usually the part in a tragedy where the mc finally grows some balls) because everything she said was contradicted by all the people around her.

The devs were pretty self aware about how stupid they made her to get the story to function.

Instead you get a rather rushed ending where both the driving forces behind the MCs suffering/stupidity isnt met with any acceptable closure imo.

One guy dies, rightfully, but as a result never grew into becoming a character

The girl dies apologizing meaning she knew her reasons were false but died never telling the truth or giving closure to their relationship.

You never get an epilogue of the people that assisted in destroying Imos nor Ainas epilogue after she thanks him, only the people that wronged him are in some sad pathetic state or are caring for the products/consequences of evil people: Tori caring for Ace, Aina caring for Lotia and Thrashes child etc.

The ending itself more or less can be used as a sequel bait if they really wanted to go that route but a sequel wont fix what i see "wrong" with the story. Maybe it wasnt meant to have proper closure which is strange from a narrative standpoint.

[Gus]

I agree, the ending just downright awful. At this point I only hope in the end Imos will become the real dark heroes (or demon lord) and end that awful world. But no. The demon are losing and the Dragons are unpunished.

In the end they make this game into typical NTR genre, where the woman is a hypocrite and the badguy win. Turns out hoping that this game will be as good as Ideology in Friction is just me getting overestimating this game. Especially the end when Imos kill Thrash and getting killed afterwards by Lotia. Its downright awful. He should kill Thrash and r4pe Lotia afterwards.

In the end Imos still a pathetic MC till the end. Maybe it would be better to get Imos lose to Thrash and enjoying his life watching Lotia's getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ everyday.

[omspecialk]

Originally posted by Gus:

I agree, the ending just downright awful. At this point I only hope in the end Imos will become the real dark heroes (or demon lord) and end that awful world. But no. The demon are losing and the Dragons are unpunished.

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Get the actual true ending. Imos kills almost everyone who deserves it. The dragons as well.

[Pay Child Suport]

Originally posted by Gus:

I agree, the ending just downright awful. At this point I only hope in the end Imos will become the real dark heroes (or demon lord) and end that awful world. But no. The demon are losing and the Dragons are unpunished.

In the end they make this game into typical NTR genre, where the woman is a hypocrite and the badguy win. Turns out hoping that this game will be as good as Ideology in Friction is just me getting overestimating this game. Especially the end when Imos kill Thrash and getting killed afterwards by Lotia. Its downright awful. He should kill Thrash and r4pe Lotia afterwards.

In the end Imos still a pathetic MC till the end. Maybe it would be better to get Imos lose to Thrash and enjoying his life watching Lotia's getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ everyday.

at least be content with ending 5 if nothing else. and f**k ending 6 that makes absolutely no sense. why would she of all people choose to let that world continue?

[Aruvana]

There is another side story of this game from u-room. It's named "The Shattered Princess of Ice & Snow [U-ROOM]". The game highlight her little brother that try to save aina. The story is sequel of dark hero party but in the ending where the jerk hero won against the demon king. it just short story and last for 2 hours gameplay