Game crash

[jodipheonix]

I have tried many workarounds to make this game work and it doesn't, to me it seems broken and there is no fix.

What's happening is , when I first start the game , it begins to load , asks for new game or to continue; doesn't matter which I pick or what difficulty I choose , as soon as the game begins to load it crashes back to desktop. That includes if I click on a new slot for a new game.

PC Specs:
1 x Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070
Asrock x79 Fatal1ty Champion socket LGA 2011
Intel Core i7 4930K Hex core Ivy Bridge-E
32gb Gskill RipjawZ 1600mhz


Any help would be appreciated , as I really would like to think this isn't a waste of money ... But I fear that it was , which is a shame , because the game looks really cool and I really do want to play it!

[YamaKami]

Originally posted by Fox:

Played the game all the way through without issues :)

Still A broken game that only some can make run through a myriad of fixes. That still do not work for most. I suppose if your PC is old enough it might launch on it's own. Basically nothing in this thread comes colse to changing the solid fact that this is a

Originally posted by YamaKami:

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[Dionysus 🐭]

I found out it was because of RTSS. Disabling that, the game works great and looks great with some Reshade. Just wish I could disable mouse acceleration.

[YamaKami]

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[KieSeyHow]

Sadly, some hardware is just not 100% compatible, that is the way it is. Do more research and make wiser choices when you purchase computer hardware (the same applies to cars). For maximum compatibility, purchase hardware that is used commercially, or sold as business equipment. If it is fadish consumer hardware, over-hyped fanboi crap (I'm looking at you Acer and Asus) keep the hell away from it.

I am very sorry if your game cannot be made to work, but I don't have your setup in front of me, and I have no idea what you have done to your system or operating system. It is my experience that at least 75% of the time, the fault lies between the keyboard and the chair. Many other pieces of software works with things like GPU and main-board drivers. Many multiple pieces of software together creates issues. Remove anything that hooks into video, overlays, keyboard macros, mouse software (ONLY use the drivers), video codec packs, screen grabbing software, FPS OSD utes, and the list goes on.

[YamaKami]

Originally posted by KieSeyHow:

Sadly, some hardware is just not 100% compatible, that is the way it is. Do more research and make wiser choices when you purchase computer hardware (the same applies to cars). For maximum compatibility, purchase hardware that is used commercially, or sold as business equipment. If it is fadish consumer hardware, over-hyped fanboi crap (I'm looking at you Acer and Asus) keep the hell away from it.

I am very sorry if your game cannot be made to work, but I don't have your setup in front of me, and I have no idea what you have done to your system or operating system. It is my experience that at least 75% of the time, the fault lies between the keyboard and the chair. Many other pieces of software works with things like GPU and main-board drivers. Many multiple pieces of software together creates issues. Remove anything that hooks into video, overlays, keyboard macros, mouse software (ONLY use the drivers), video codec packs, screen grabbing software, FPS OSD utes, and the list goes on.

Or they could just not sell defective that does not work as advertised or expected. It's really that damn simple to begin with. I'm not young, nor new at this. I build PC's and nothing you're saying excuses the broken state of this product. What's sad is that rather than expect a company to maintain that which they sell as a working product, people would rather defend it despite it only working for handfuls that go to great lengths to fix their broken . Really baffling absence of logic there...

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[KieSeyHow]

So, let me get this straight... You expected software written 15 years ago, before modern systems even existed, to work perfectly today? .... LOL!

I think you need a reality check. This software obviously works most of the time, at least on Intel systems, or on higher quality systems that are 100% compatible. It does not, and cannot possibly be expected to work on modern hardware which did not even exist when this was developed.

I agree Valve should make compatibly issues CLEAR and obvious, but that is not how corporations think. If we buy something, we are expected to know how to use it, and know enough about computers to change settings to make it work. If not, well that is our fault, not theirs. Think logically, and critically about reality. There are literally thousands of variations of systems, of software, and of hardware and user capability. It is not possible to see into the future to know how to develop code for that. Corporate entities work on "natural selection," and "survival of the fittest," just like nature does. They don't "care" about you, only about your money. They expect us to research into what works and what does not work, BEFORE making a purchase. Sadly, "consumers" don't seem to understand this, or how nature works. All we can do is try to fix it, and try to get the money back, if we can't. That game is not broken, it was just developed for older hardware and systems. You are SUPPOSED to know how to judge the compatibility of software on your computer.

[Rao]

Originally posted by KieSeyHow:

Okay, after MUCH testing, and great amounts of research, I have collated the useful info for this annoying crash.

If you have more than 8 "logical" cores in total (this means physical cores PLUS Hyper-threading cores AND you are using a 64b version of Windows (7, 8, 8.1, or 10), then you have two options. Either run the Prototype game directly with a custom shortcut, OR, run Steam itself with the custom shortcut. I will explain the Steam version, and you should be able ot figure out the other one easily.

BONUS: this tweak actually fixed startup crashes on a few other old classic games also! older games don't run any faster on more than the first 8 logical cores anyhow. Four cores with hyperthreading gives you 8 logical cores. By limiting the main Steam Launcher itself with a custom shortcut, all other Steam assets inherit the same settings which greatly inproves compantibility with older games. So, let's start...

--> Start by making a NEW shortcut on the desktop, and browsing to Steam with the "create shortcut" widget. right-click -> New -> Shortcut -> then click "browse" and go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe , then select the main "Steam.exe" program (ignore the others) and click "OK".

--> Now, right-click that NEW shortcut and select "Properties" from the mouse context menu.
--> In the box marked "Target" replace
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe"
with the following that matches your OS:
Win7 and 8.1: C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /C start /affinity 0xff C:\PROGRA~2\STEAM\STEAM.EXE
Win10: cmd /C start "steam" /affinity 0xff "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe"


--> Now, in the box marked "Start In" replace
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\
with:
Win7 and 8.1: C:\PROGRA~2\STEAM\
Win10: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam"
--> Now click on [ OK ]
--> On Win7 and 8,1 you will see the steam icon change to a simple black box. On Win10 the Steam icon stays the same. Your custom Steam shortcut is now actually pointing to the Windows Command Processor (CMD.exe) instead of Steam itself (remember you edited it).

The REASON you are use SHORT DOS names for Win7 and 8.1 is because of how the CMD processor syntax requires no spaces in file or folder names. Windows 10 removed that restriction, and needs a slightly different syntax to work correctly. Remember the differences in case you need that in the future for something else.

You can do this for each annoying game, but I found it much easier to just make a second custom shortcut for SteamOldGames instead. ;)

--> Launch Steam with your custom shortcut, then start the Prototype game from inside the Steam library.

--> When you get into the game, FIRST go to the sound settings and change the "latency" to "32ms", click "SAVE" then "BACK" then exit the game.

--> Now, open your audio properties for your sound card. Change the advanced audio properties, on your "default" "playback device", to 44khz instead of 48, 96, or whatever it says. This addresses the stuttering sounds and crashing that may happen in MANY old games because of an incompatibility between how sounds are buffered in newer 64bit systems, compared to older 32bit systems the devs used years ago. It's basically a compatibility tweak. You are not capable of noticing anyhow, unless you have alien hearing. (perfect human hearing is only about 12bit raw)

Use this custom Steam shortcut to play older classic games to greatly reduce crashing. It seemed to fix several games that always crashed on start-up or after playing a few minutes.

If you want to play your latest modern games, just exit your custom Steam and launch it the normal way. You probably wont need to as all my games seem to run perfectly fine limited to 8 logical cores instead of the 24 cores my system has. I could not tell the difference at all.

Prototype ran insanely fast, like 200FPS after this. Now, I am going to reinstall some other old games I had given up on and try those also!

IM me on Skype or Hangouts, and if worst comes to worst, I might be able to help you using Teamviewer if you are completely confused, and I have time.

Special thanks to Warmaniac_209 with his help in testing and research on Windows 10 systems!

Worked for me. Need to download Prototype 2 and test it still, but I'm hopeful. Thanks a million, mate.

Edit: Though you did leave off the quotation marks around the path in the 7/8.1 "Target" step. Might toss some people off.

[YamaKami]

Originally posted by KieSeyHow:

So, let me get this straight... You expect software written 15 years ago, before modern systems even existed to work perfectly? .... LOL!

I think you need a reality check. This software obviously does work most of the time, on Intel systems, and on higher quality systems that are 100% compatible. It does not, and cannot possible be expected to work on modern hardware that has things which did not even exist when this was developed. I agree that Valve should make this CLEAR and obvious, but that is not how corporations think. If you buy something, you are expected to know how to use it, and expected t know enough about your computer to change settings to make it work. If not, well that is your fault, not theirs. Think logically, and critically about reality. There are literally thousands of variations of systems, software, hardware and users, and it is not possible to see into the future to know how to wrote code for that. The fact is, corporate entities work on natural selection, and survival of the fittest, just like nature, they don't "care" about you, only about your money. They expect us to research and look into what works and what does not work, BEFORE you make a purchase. Sadly, "consumers" don't seem to understand this, or how nature works. All you can do is try to fix it, and try to get your money back, IF you can't. That game is not broken, it was just developed for older hardware and systems. You are SUPPOSED to know this, and how to judge compatibility of software on your computer. The same applies to many many other areas in life.

https://youtu.be/JohGniYph-c

[YamaKami]

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

BROKEN GAME AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!! [/quote]

[don_diegocf]

Originally posted by KieSeyHow:

Okay, after MUCH testing, and great amounts of research, I have collated the useful info for this annoying crash.

If you have more than 8 "logical" cores in total (this means physical cores PLUS Hyper-threading cores AND you are using a 64b version of Windows (7, 8, 8.1, or 10), then you have two options. Either run the Prototype game directly with a custom shortcut, OR, run Steam itself with the custom shortcut. I will explain the Steam version, and you should be able ot figure out the other one easily.

BONUS: this tweak actually fixed startup crashes on a few other old classic games also! older games don't run any faster on more than the first 8 logical cores anyhow. Four cores with hyperthreading gives you 8 logical cores. By limiting the main Steam Launcher itself with a custom shortcut, all other Steam assets inherit the same settings which greatly inproves compantibility with older games. So, let's start...

--> Start by making a NEW shortcut on the desktop, and browsing to Steam with the "create shortcut" widget. right-click -> New -> Shortcut -> then click "browse" and go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe , then select the main "Steam.exe" program (ignore the others) and click "OK".

--> Now, right-click that NEW shortcut and select "Properties" from the mouse context menu.
--> In the box marked "Target" replace
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe"
with the following that matches your OS:
Win7 and 8.1: C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /C start /affinity 0xff C:\PROGRA~2\STEAM\STEAM.EXE
Win10: cmd /C start "steam" /affinity 0xff "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe"


--> Now, in the box marked "Start In" replace
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\
with:
Win7 and 8.1: C:\PROGRA~2\STEAM\
Win10: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam"
--> Now click on [ OK ]
--> On Win7 and 8,1 you will see the steam icon change to a simple black box. On Win10 the Steam icon stays the same. Your custom Steam shortcut is now actually pointing to the Windows Command Processor (CMD.exe) instead of Steam itself (remember you edited it).

The REASON you are use SHORT DOS names for Win7 and 8.1 is because of how the CMD processor syntax requires no spaces in file or folder names. Windows 10 removed that restriction, and needs a slightly different syntax to work correctly. Remember the differences in case you need that in the future for something else.

You can do this for each annoying game, but I found it much easier to just make a second custom shortcut for SteamOldGames instead. ;)

--> Launch Steam with your custom shortcut, then start the Prototype game from inside the Steam library.

--> When you get into the game, FIRST go to the sound settings and change the "latency" to "32ms", click "SAVE" then "BACK" then exit the game.

--> Now, open your audio properties for your sound card. Change the advanced audio properties, on your "default" "playback device", to 44khz instead of 48, 96, or whatever it says. This addresses the stuttering sounds and crashing that may happen in MANY old games because of an incompatibility between how sounds are buffered in newer 64bit systems, compared to older 32bit systems the devs used years ago. It's basically a compatibility tweak. You are not capable of noticing anyhow, unless you have alien hearing. (perfect human hearing is only about 12bit raw)

Use this custom Steam shortcut to play older classic games to greatly reduce crashing. It seemed to fix several games that always crashed on start-up or after playing a few minutes.

If you want to play your latest modern games, just exit your custom Steam and launch it the normal way. You probably wont need to as all my games seem to run perfectly fine limited to 8 logical cores instead of the 24 cores my system has. I could not tell the difference at all.

Prototype ran insanely fast, like 200FPS after this. Now, I am going to reinstall some other old games I had given up on and try those also!

IM me on Skype or Hangouts, and if worst comes to worst, I might be able to help you using Teamviewer if you are completely confused, and I have time.

Special thanks to Warmaniac_209 with his help in testing and research on Windows 10 systems!

It worked with me. Thank you for your help.

[KieSeyHow]

You are most welcome.

[Restine]

Thank you for the fix. Really nice to be able to play this game again after not being able to use my Xbox 360.

I don't know what the dude's problem that kept spamming the thread is, but the game works and I'm having a blast again.

[Ingsoc]

KieSeyHow's trick works like a charm. Together with the resolution fix and the audio normalizer patch, Prototype can run perfectly on a modern system.

About "broken games": this is PC gaming; sometimes we need to jump through some hoops to play old games on modern computers. Games like Prototype, Prototype 2, Devil May Cry 3 (the standalone version), Manhunt, Vampire - The Masquerade: Bloodlines, Saints Row 2, Alone in the Dark 2008 or Fallout 3 will need some third party tools, fixes, patches and/or workarounds to run, but with enough patience and research, they will run.

I agree Valve should put a warning on the store page of these more problematic games, but keep selling them to anyone willing to try some tinkering to play them properly. We have enough delisted games as it is.

[KieSeyHow]

Thanks guys. Glad to know it helps people. I thought it would be too technical for some people at first, but most seem to be okay with it.

[Psychedelic Shadow ^_^]

I was playing this yesterday and it was working flawlessly, I guess its probably because my pc has the specs quite near to what it wants so that may be a thing even had my controller and everything.