How to remove a potion effect of damage endurance? Solved

[Eternie]

I have tried dispel magic, and tried potions of restore Endurance, I've visited shrines nothing removes this debuff of Endurance damage.

It had been a side effect of a potion to strengthen Magic with a -2 Endurance for 3 seconds. For three seconds I thought wouldn't be a problem ... but this seems permanent and nothing removes it.

Are there any spells in game that could remove this effect? Or is this a bug that the side effect should have worn off?

[Dehexed]

Are you sure you're not suffering from a disease? Have you tried a 'Cure Disease' potion?

[Eternie]

Yep I'm sure I used a cure disease potion as well, several times since then. I will check the magic effects tab again in case something else is written there. thanks for the suggestion though Dehexed.

The effect came from a potion I made to strengthen Magic that had a second effect of damage Endurance for 3 seconds ... only the effect never ended.

I know in Oblivion I could go to shrines to remove effects, but shrines in Nehrim seem quite different with no cleansing effects.

[Just Chill]

There should be a spell available that is able to restore attributes.
I cannot recall its name, but I can look into the game files as soon as I am home. :)

[Jouchebag]

Does Gamebryo have the dispelallspells command?

[Zsrai]

Regeneration I believe, can be bought in the Sanctum from the Restoration trainer (a Templar in the dorms). You take damage and regen stat damage over 30 seconds or something similar.

There are also dispel potions and spells, since it's obviously not a disease.

[Just Chill]

Originally posted by Zsrai:

Regeneration

Thanks I guess that was it. :)

[Eternie]

I just went into game and YEP ... success the "Scroll of Regeneration" cured all attributes ... Thank you one and all!

Dispel spells didn't effect it, as I tried that several times .. I didn't have a dispel potion though,
I did try Restore endurance potions that didn't do anything.

I certainly will not be using any potions that have bad secondary effects ... as they obviously don't end after 3 seconds.

[Eternie]

I still think that the potions to restore attribute should have worked or still be made to work, Just as casting a dispel magic spell should have cleared that endurance debuff.

It is good that there's a catch all scroll of regeneration for most debuffs, especially with the amount of poisons and debuffs potions.

[Just Chill]

Originally posted by Eternie:

Dispel spells didn't effect it, as I tried that several times .. I didn't have a dispel potion though,

Dispel only works on active effects, while the attribute damage is not really an active effect in that way, but rather directly applied onto the attributes.
So only attribute restoration can heal it. ;)

[Eternie]

The Restore attribute potions I made didn't have any effect on removing the debuff.
It was only on Endurance that I had this effect, don't know if the other attributes get restored by potions.

Also the effect should have worn off after 3 seconds according to the potion description.

[Just Chill]

Originally posted by Eternie:

The Restore attribute potions I made didn't have any effect on removing the debuff.
It was only on Endurance that I had this effect, don't know if the other attributes get restored by potions.

Also the effect should have worn off after 3 seconds according to the potion description.

Ok, that's weird. oO

Anyways, if you make a "Restore attribute potion" it should either be for the attribute which is damaged.
Even though there is just one magic effect called REAT, it can have 8 different settings for each attribute.

But I am not sure why it didn't wore off after 3 seconds. :O

[Eternie]

I just tried again and can recreate the issue ... the problem comes from at the end of magic effect it gets DOUBLED instead of reversed. There must be a mix up between a plus and a minus after the effect ends.

So using Polypore Red Cap and Somnalius Frond to make a potion that you can drink, with Strengthen Magic and the side effect of Damage Endurance for 1pt for 3 seconds.

At the instant of drinking the one negative point is added to the attribute at the end of the three seconds the effect goes from a minus 1 to a minus 2 doubling the effect instead of removing the effect.

I also did a quick check on another attribute using Root pulp and Elf cup Cap to make a Cure Disease potion with a damage Willpower 1 pt for three seconds. Again the damage willpower got doubled at the end of the 3 seconds instead of removed.

Obviously this is only an issue where it's a potion with a negative effect and not a poison.

Anyway hope that helps to solve the issue why the effect becomes permanent.

[Eternie]

I will added that I attempted to make several more restore attribute potions, none of those worked to lift the negative debuff on the attribute; nor did they actually raise the attribute in the attribute tab.

I also made fortify Endurance potion and that added 18 pts to the attribute immediately and reversed the positive aspect at the end of the effect.

So at the end of the negative effect it gets reversed the same way as on a fortify potion ... doubling the effect instead of reversing it.

Hope that helps.