The unrealistic realism about solar panels

[Slomius]

Solar panels are unrealistic because they deliver "only" 0.075 energy, whether it's day or night.
That certainly applies to the solar panel made of stainless steel.
It is understandable that less energy is delivered at night, but that it does not produce much more energy during the day in direct sunlight is realistic and physically illogical and unrealistic. During the day, more energy is lost in the solar panels. Where is the energy going?
I'm not a physicist, but I know something is definitely wrong here.
If that was the intention from the beginning that the solar panels would only have this low energy output, then you could have saved the animation of the solar tracking, because it makes it even more unrealistic and illogical.
It is therefore asked here for the quickest possible rectification, provided that the solar panels appear realistic and not just a fun accessory to represent.

[wn]

I don’t quite understand what exactly you are offering =)

[Huperspace]

1 solar panel is enough for 1 miner (multitool robot arm). don't know why it's changed from 0.75 to 0.075

you can make a curve(a narrow isosceles Trapezoid) based on this document:
http://dspace.bracu.ac.bd/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10361/9118/12221046%2C%2012221071%2C%2012121101_EEE.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

if one block is 1m^3 and the solar panel has less than 3 blocks quare ((2.5m)² = 6.25m²). avg solar output is 1500W/m². 1500*10%*6,25 = ca.940W take 1000W max output.
Don't know whats the ingame electricity equqalent, maybe 0.1 = 1kW.
based on this chart:
http://sroeco.com/solar/solar-cell-efficiency-vs-solar-panel-efficiency/

5% to 40% efficienty: to be your multiplier comform it could be 10% for Stainless, 15% Titan, 22.5% Hard and 33.75% neutron (1.5x per tier).

This is simple and yet pretty realistic.

[Slomius]

Originally posted by ishellstrike:

I don’t quite understand what exactly you are offering =)

The first sentence is the most important.
You should understand that.
To explain it again.
A solar panel produces electrical energy from light (photons) according to the principle of photovoltaics.
Little to no light = little to no energy. That would be the case when it is night.
There is a lot of light during the day. Ergo, the solar panel would have to generate and deliver much more energy than at night.
Since the solar panel in the game, whether day or night, gives the same amount of energy, something is not right.
At least that's my experience with solar panels.

I do not know if other photovoltaic principles apply in Russia. The physical principles are the same everywhere in this universe. Russia would have to be in another universe if physics should work differently there. ^^

[Slomius]

@Huperspace

I'm pretty good with photovoltaic.
Nevertheless, thanks for the explanations. ;)

[Huperspace]

Originally posted by Slomius:

@Huperspace
I'm pretty good with photovoltaic.
Nevertheless, thanks for the explanations. ;)

this was more meant to be for the dev; an easy but realisic option/method to meet your demands. ^^

[wn]

Originally posted by Slomius:

Originally posted by ishellstrike:

I don’t quite understand what exactly you are offering =)

The first sentence is the most important.
You should understand that.
To explain it again.
A solar panel produces electrical energy from light (photons) according to the principle of photovoltaics.
Little to no light = little to no energy. That would be the case when it is night.
There is a lot of light during the day. Ergo, the solar panel would have to generate and deliver much more energy than at night.
Since the solar panel in the game, whether day or night, gives the same amount of energy, something is not right.
At least that's my experience with solar panels.

I do not know if other photovoltaic principles apply in Russia. The physical principles are the same everywhere in this universe. Russia would have to be in another universe if physics should work differently there. ^^

There is simple reason to generate power all day -- you can switch day time at the moment

maybe the local moon emits in the ultraviolet spectrum at night? how to know ^^

[Crazy9000.Eps]

Originally posted by ishellstrike:

maybe the local moon emits in the ultraviolet spectrum at night? how to know ^^

Or maybe this solar tech gets charged during day and still outputs power at night. Cells get charged by sun then "bleed" the power at 0.075MW or whatever the panel is. Since it's Sci-fi you can write pretty much anything.

[Noobomancer]

Or maybe "Solar panel" was just a convenient name and display for an item that acts as means to offer an expensive, low-output option designed to be a power source remote mining outposts that are hard to build infrastructure to and from, since "Solar Panel" happened to come out at roughly the same time as "tool robot arm"?

[Huperspace]

Originally posted by Noobomancer:

Or maybe "Solar panel" was just a convenient name and display for an item that acts as means to offer an expensive, low-output option designed to be a power source remote mining outposts that are hard to build infrastructure to and from, since "Solar Panel" happened to come out at roughly the same time as "tool robot arm"?

then a cold fusion reactor would be more correct and sci-fi (yet)^^

if the solar panel has a internal battery you can make it to work like a constant power source (like most games did).

Originally posted by ishellstrike:

There is simple reason to generate power all day -- you can switch day time at the moment

maybe the local moon emits in the ultraviolet spectrum at night? how to know ^^

thats a bad excuse, other game have it too (the option to set time)but have more complex solar simulation.

if there is a uv burst than not from a moon and that's only a small amount of thats what's the convertable spectrum is and we have a atmosphere (as it's visible as a earth like one ingame) which blocks/absorbs most UV (exceot UVA^^) .

[Slomius]

Originally posted by ishellstrike:

Originally posted by Slomius:

maybe the local moon emits in the ultraviolet spectrum at night? how to know ^^

Ähä ...
A strange moon that is.
The probability that such a moon exists is close to zero.
By the way. There is no theory in physics that could explain how a simple celestial body could emit UV light like a moon. The moon would have to produce UV.
If you think the moon reflects UV, then this is almost unlikely. The moon would have to have a very high reflectivity in the UV range.

Hm...
there would be a possibility. The moon is not a moon, but a miniature sun. Of course, this would also produce UV light. In addition, with plastic holographic effects, you could make this object look like a moon.
Theoretically, these two methods would be possible.
But I do not really believe that the developers have thought so far. ^^

[Noobomancer]

"then a cold fusion reactor would be more correct and sci-fi (yet)^^"

I imagine this is out because "fusion reactor" is already planned for hard-metal or neutronium. I've heard IShellStrike suggest a "fusion reactor" on at least a couple occasions.

[Darth A.R.T.H.E.R.]

An ancient unknown race towed the moon into it's current location. It was constructed in such a way as to be highly reflective with the purpose of being able to utilize solar as a primary source of power. Such an advanced race would likely have very efficient methods of utilizing solar energy. Their endgame involves a long scale plan to prepare the planet for their arrival, which would explain all the random construction material laying around. The internal capacitors contained in our solar energy collectors are redundant in this case and only serve us to help smooth out voltage spikes. What concerns me more is the lack of realism regarding our god like ability to teleport the sun. We are going to need a theorist of unparalleled skill to explain that one.

[Slomius]

@Darth A.R.T.H.E.R.
interesting theory. do you happen to like reading sf-novels, mainly? if so, would be welcome to me as like-minded. ;)

[Darth A.R.T.H.E.R.]

I do have something of a proclivity towards science fiction. Although, as a robotic entity, I do not read as much as access data. Update: we may not be teleporting the sun. It seems more likely that we are teleporting the planet.

[Slomius]

well, to teleport a sun, or even "just" a planet does not play a major role. it definitely requires a lot of energy. what do you think about how the required energy was generated or gained?