This is M-A-S-T-E-R-P-I-E-C-E

[CorvusJB]

Famous! I've spent several hours in the demo already. The new Outcast exceeded ALL my expectations. The game suited me incredibly well.

The demo is (unfortunately) limited to only 20 minutes. Fortunately, you can play over and over again. Thanks to this, I discovered all the corners (with gates) and inhabitants. Populated swamps with beautiful altars and (building/home) designs. Vast rice fields. A giant watermill with bird farms that you could ride on in Second Contact. The Sappa tribe live by fishing and their Waterworld-like village is fantastic… A giant lighthouse on top of which Talan Vizel is hiding.

...and the fauna and flora! Beautiful graphics... I discovered a variety of animals... I am absolutely thrilled. As from the ancient temples in the lowlands, flooded with water. Temples in the mountains... Diving and the glider is fluid, perfectly controllable. The fast movement under the sea, lagoons and lakes thanks to the jets is fantastic. As well as fast movement just above the ground (which makes covering distances much easier). "Standing" in the air and mowing down enemies thanks to the jet pack. The combat system is generally well-mastered, modern. Very satisfying! Whether shooting or melee attacks, using an energy shield or tricks.

All the biomes in the game are absolutely fantastic. The coast! Swamps! Hinterland and glider flights through the forest, mountains, above the lakes... Beautiful.

I really like the ecological overlap. All those dirty machines that destroy the world of Adelpha. The first time I saw a huge drilling machine that came down from the sky... I was amazed. Like a machine that hugs a tree and completely destroys the surrounding nature. I had a strong Avatar vibe. However, Outcast saga and his idea were here before J. Cameron.

I could write on and on and on... There is so much! Just the detailed interiors, bases, mining colonies of enemies, all the fantastic species, the richness of the forests, the variety of flora! Also, I can start a demo every day! I have to wait until March 15th. I have ordered the collector's edition, can't wait.

A few things that bother me:

1) Cutter Slade's face is... well... not very handsome.
2) Cutter's strong macho lines... at least I had to get used to them.
3) Sometimes the movement of the character uphill is a bit slow. It's a little weird, clunky.
4) In the demo, the game is VERY simple. No one has been able to beat me in the many hours I have devoted to the game so far. Hopefully it will be better in the full version.
5) The deeper I went into the more remote areas (the Tal tribe in the swamps to the south), the clumsier the game ran. Not terrible, but not smooth either. Overall, the optimization is pretty decent and many AAA(A) titles could learn from your demo!

I wish it was March 15! I'm really enjoying the game. The demo is fine, but I want more, mooore, MOOORE!!!

PS: Sorry my terrible english.

Played on the PC with xbox gamepad:

Ryzen 5 3600
RTX 3060Ti
16 GB RAM
FullHD / 100 Hz

[Unseen Unit]

I can agree with you on certains things for few reasons you mentioned, but this demo have some flaws:

Framerate:
-Isn't great (and it was already improved by 2 patches). So no I don't think the optimization is pretty decent atm. Also you're playing in 1080p, right ? It's maybe why you think perfs are "ok".

AI:
-Is almost inexistent during combats, it is probably the biggest problem of this demo.
You can exploit the AI so easily and never die. And I doubt this new game will beat the original one.

We will see at release but lower your expectations if you think this game is going to be that much better in like 17 days.

So no this is not a masterpiece, at least this demo isn't.

[CorvusJB]

Originally posted by Unseen Unit:

I can agree with you on certains things for few reasons you mentioned, but this demo have some flaws:

Framerate:
-Isn't great (and it was already improved by 2 patches). So no I don't think the optimization is pretty decent atm. Also you're playing in 1080p, right ? It's maybe why you think perfs are "ok".

AI:
-Is almost inexistent during combats, it is probably the biggest problem of this demo.
You can exploit the AI so easily and never die. And I doubt this new game will beat the original one.

We will see at release but lower your expectations if you think this game is going to be that much better in like 17 days.

So no this is not a masterpiece, at least this demo isn't.

Yes, I mentioned the PC settings, I play "only" in full HD with GPU 3060Ti, it seems sufficient. But I understand that at 4K the demo may have different results. I had problems with image tearing. The further south I got in the demo. Note: I play WITHOUT any assistive technology (no DLSS, etc.). Everything on ultra settings (but in full HD resolution).

Combat System: I don't deal with AI. But in general I really enjoy it. Everything is fast, everything works and I see variability in the fights. I'm enjoying the energy shield a lot, combined with the dodges and shooting from high on the glider.

The difficulty of the fights is another matter. The fights are no challenge. None at all. If nothing changes in this regard by March 15th, I will definitely be playing Outcast on the hardest possible difficulty.

I totally agree with you. However, I'm playing Outcast: Second Contact NOW and the enemy AI is 1:1 equal stupid/equal smart. The difference is that the previous game (Second Contact) is outdated and has very clunky, unintuitive combat controls. The combat/flying controls in the demo are perfect, fluid, well connected and really modern in my opinion. Finally.

[Lanani]

Thank you very much for your feedback. Glad you enjoyed the demo so much. :)

[Unseen Unit]

@CorvusJB
I use 1440p (2080 8 Go) but not max setttings. Framerate is not consistent enough for a true enjoyable experience compared to other similar games.

I see what you mean about the new combat system, Cutter Slade movements offers more verticality but the AI is just weak even on max difficulty.

I've made a feedback here (multiple posts), where I highligthed some problems about the AI, optimisation and others problems. You can try to replicate these things I've mentionned and see how easy it is to exploit (or even witness some bugs):
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1013140/discussions/0/4201364524145633996/

[Eltarimus]

you cleary dont know what makes a game a masteripece. this game is not even near being really good let alone a masterpiece.

[CorvusJB]

Originally posted by Eltarimus:

you cleary dont know what makes a game a masteripece. this game is not even near being really good let alone a masterpiece.

Your opinion. I like it in every way.

[idum]

Originally posted by CorvusJB:

Famous! I've spent several hours in the demo already. The new Outcast exceeded ALL my expectations. The game suited me incredibly well.

The demo is (unfortunately) limited to only 20 minutes. Fortunately, you can play over and over again. Thanks to this, I discovered all the corners (with gates) and inhabitants. Populated swamps with beautiful altars and (building/home) designs. Vast rice fields. A giant watermill with bird farms that you could ride on in Second Contact. The Sappa tribe live by fishing and their Waterworld-like village is fantastic… A giant lighthouse on top of which Talan Vizel is hiding.

...and the fauna and flora! Beautiful graphics... I discovered a variety of animals... I am absolutely thrilled. As from the ancient temples in the lowlands, flooded with water. Temples in the mountains... Diving and the glider is fluid, perfectly controllable. The fast movement under the sea, lagoons and lakes thanks to the jets is fantastic. As well as fast movement just above the ground (which makes covering distances much easier). "Standing" in the air and mowing down enemies thanks to the jet pack. The combat system is generally well-mastered, modern. Very satisfying! Whether shooting or melee attacks, using an energy shield or tricks.

All the biomes in the game are absolutely fantastic. The coast! Swamps! Hinterland and glider flights through the forest, mountains, above the lakes... Beautiful.

I really like the ecological overlap. All those dirty machines that destroy the world of Adelpha. The first time I saw a huge drilling machine that came down from the sky... I was amazed. Like a machine that hugs a tree and completely destroys the surrounding nature. I had a strong Avatar vibe. However, Outcast saga and his idea were here before J. Cameron.

I could write on and on and on... There is so much! Just the detailed interiors, bases, mining colonies of enemies, all the fantastic species, the richness of the forests, the variety of flora! Also, I can start a demo every day! I have to wait until March 15th. I have ordered the collector's edition, can't wait.

A few things that bother me:

1) Cutter Slade's face is... well... not very handsome.
2) Cutter's strong macho lines... at least I had to get used to them.
3) Sometimes the movement of the character uphill is a bit slow. It's a little weird, clunky.
4) In the demo, the game is VERY simple. No one has been able to beat me in the many hours I have devoted to the game so far. Hopefully it will be better in the full version.
5) The deeper I went into the more remote areas (the Tal tribe in the swamps to the south), the clumsier the game ran. Not terrible, but not smooth either. Overall, the optimization is pretty decent and many AAA(A) titles could learn from your demo!

I wish it was March 15! I'm really enjoying the game. The demo is fine, but I want more, mooore, MOOORE!!!

PS: Sorry my terrible english.

Played on the PC with xbox gamepad:

Ryzen 5 3600
RTX 3060Ti
16 GB RAM
FullHD / 100 Hz

Masterpiece? I laugh my ass off. The standards are nowadays extremely low. That's gaming in 2024.

[roddey99]

I have been around gaming since Doom. I started the demo and thought "not another generic shooter" and checked out.

[Fluzzle]

It looks like a shameless ripoff of Avatar.

The people who call everything a masterpiece are the same ones who line up to call someone a "legend" in the youtube comments of a plump child clumsily whacking himself in the face with a toy light saber, or who are utterly gobsmacked at a tiktok of someone flipping a water bottle upside down.

[Texecutioner187]

Does this game have any base building elements? I haven't gotten the time to dig into it yet, but it seems pretty nice..

[N1K1]

Originally posted by Fluzzle:

It looks like a shameless ripoff of Avatar.

The people who call everything a masterpiece are the same ones who line up to call someone a "legend" in the youtube comments of a plump child clumsily whacking himself in the face with a toy light saber, or who are utterly gobsmacked at a tiktok of someone flipping a water bottle upside down.

This is 1999 original game. How can it be avatar, being created far earlier, explain pls?

[Fluzzle]

Originally posted by N1K1:

This is 1999 original game. How can it be avatar, being created far earlier, explain pls?

Lol did you just reinvent history to pretend a sequel is the same thing as the original?
Wrong. Outcast (the first one) looks and sounds NOTHING like this game.
This is a shameless ripoff of Avatar.

[DEFIANCE is Back !!]

Don't know what you guys are talking about (saying this is a 'generic' game),

other than (supposedly) 'Avatar' (I haven't played it),

there are almost NO 'open world' free-roaming / jet-pack hovering shooting games,

I barely played a few seconds and know I'll love the game,

and wondering why I didn't hear more of it etc,

All you get nowadays is 'on-rails' (not literally the 'on-rails' games, which are pretty cool), but the linearly designed 'you can't go past these boundaries and limits, just to make sure you're 'safe'' type games,

the game so far seems like a mix between Elex (1) and Earth Defence Force,

both are which some of the best games ever made


I can make this post very long about how rare and hard it is to find 'open-world' free roaming shooting games (especially with 'jet-packs') but we'll leave it at that,

it goes without saying reflexively spouting off " Just Cause " etc doesn't matter because that's a very specialized location and style - there's no fantasy it's 'generic' in it's theme.

Lay off bashing the opening poster he has a definite point, if you don't like his opinion go play your cool games, don't make fun of him,


And for all you smart-buttocks spouting off, " It's just a Clone of Avatar !!1111 "

(Never mind avatar probably cost 100 million to make, so managing to 'copy' it is a feat to itself),

the REAL 'inspiration' for this type of game / gameplay was most likely THIS -->

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1431940/Outwars/


The devs probably played it and loved it 'back in the day',

and thought, "man it would be so cool to combine that kind of gameplay with the RPG story-line of our game ! "

And proceeded to make the game of their 'dreams',

or at least something they'd want to play.

(I also looked at 'Avatar' and other than the premise of being 'open world' there was no similarity in it, and whatever similarity there is is again, a testament to what these devs managed to pull off with 1% of the budget Avatar would've had,

so any attempt to 'make fun' of the game by saying " It's like Avatar " is only a compliment.. )

Anyways anyone checking out Outwars will see obviously that was the 'inspiration' for this game's playstyle,

and AWESOME for them, cause I've been dying to play an 'Outwars' type game for years, (other than the 'wingdiver' in EDF, lol.. )

I also don't understand why there are so many 'haters' in this thread, this thread is for this game,

why are so many people here attacking it? Like seriously we all heard the proverbial,

"don't people have something better to do? ",

but damn, seriously...