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Snow Aug 1, 2020 @ 12:13am
Fuze event
I was wondering how everyone is doing in this event. It seems for me that the progress sloved very much and i was wondering how I am compared with others.

My selling levels are:
blue - 65
red - 55
yellow - 42
green - 35
stands -16

Days off: 20
Last edited by Snow; Aug 1, 2020 @ 12:14am
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muljostpho Aug 1, 2020 @ 12:50am 
I haven't been paying as much attention since I hit 50 days off. (Hit my 400 event point limit when I got to that point.) But I've got...
* 65 blue (next one costs 22.567e6)
* 55 red (next one costs 31.001e6)
* 45 yellow (next one costs 49.602e6)
* 35 green (next one costs 41.240e6)
* 15 stands (next one costs 163.840e6)
* 50 days off (next one costs 6.380e6)
* And I have 126.780e6 MC available to spend.

At the start of this I was sticking close to the advice of a spreadsheet that I had put together for myself the last time that this event was running. (Some other people in a topic here at that time may have helped with some of the numbers or formulas to use. I had jumped into it without paying attention to what values anything had started at or or how much those values were increasing with each level up when the event had started that time. Eventually, I started wondering about "best" choices for each next purchase.)

I got a little sloppy about following my sheet's advice as I got further into it. I'm not sure when exactly I decided that I was far enough in to start spending on days off but that was definitely not something to get started on too early since days off don't increase your income at all.

EDIT: Some info to build a sheet, if you don't already have something you've been referencing...
* Base values: 10 blue, 27 red, 80 yellow, 175 green
* Payout timers (in seconds): 30 blue, 60 red, 150 yellow, 300 green
* Average income per second of any color = base x level x stands / timer
* Next cost for blue = round((100 x level) ^ (1 + level / 70))
* Next cost for red = round((500 x level) ^ (1 + level / 80))
* Next cost for yellow = round((3000 x level) ^ (1 + level / 90))
* Next cost for green = round((12500 x level) ^ (1 + level / 100))
* Next cost for stand = 10000 x 2 ^ (stands - 1)
* In my sheet I set it up to come up with the total MC/s for the current levels and also the new MC/s values that will result from one purchase if that purchase is each specific color.
* I have it calculate the change in how much MC/s I'll get for each purchase, and then I have it calculate the cost per unit of change.
* I have a bunch of comparisons being made to check every possible combination of "cost per unit change" against each other to determine which ones are less expensive. If a particular color's "cost per unit change" is less than all three of the other colors, then that one is the least expensive and my sheet labels that line as "good value".
* For the stands, I don't know if this is really a good way to do it (I have no idea what would be the best way to do it) but I set my sheet up to calculate the time that it would take at the current MC/s to earn enough to pay for each next upgrade or stand and then the comparison I use to determine if a stand is "good value" is whether it will take less time to pay for 1 stand than it will take to pay for 4 colors (1 of each color).
Last edited by muljostpho; Aug 1, 2020 @ 1:49am
corew68 Aug 1, 2020 @ 1:05am 
I believe i tried to stop around an investment return of 4 or 5 days.

51 Blue
42 Red
31 Yellow
25 Green
14 Stands

Day Off 93

I dont have a clue how many days remain till fuze event ends

Day Off 93 costs 2,140e7 MCs
Day Off 94 costs 2,186e7

(I believe an average cost could be 1.5e7 for 50 last ones)
Last edited by corew68; Aug 1, 2020 @ 1:10am
muljostpho Aug 1, 2020 @ 1:28am 
The starting value and the scaling of the day off costs were not details that I ever made note of. Having that (or having the grand total cost for all 100 days off) would probably be good info to have so you can estimate the time needed to finish the event at your current rate.

I'm not sure about timing for the next event (seems like all events are just whenever the devs feel like patching the next one in (not on a strict schedule)), but it looks like there are always four events in rotation: Easter, Summer, Halloween, and Christmas. I'd guess that we can probably assume 3 months per event, so maybe it's:
* Easter = March / April / May
* Summer = June / July / August
* Halloween = September / October / November
* Christmas = December / January / February

Or something like that. Just a quick guess. Haven't checked to see if I can find exact dates for when each one has started before.

EDIT: Alex's sheet that you can copy on google drive has each next day off costing nextDay x 5000 + previousCost. The overall total cost for... No, wait, a previous run of this event must have had different limits for what you were allowed to do because this sheet adds up the total cost for 500 days. Let's see, the total cost for 100 days is... about 859 mllion MC.
Last edited by muljostpho; Aug 1, 2020 @ 1:37am
corew68 Aug 4, 2020 @ 12:51am 
NOTE: I reached level 100 today, and it seems to go on.

I ve been able to reach 102 days off.. some extra bonus compared to expected
Snow Aug 4, 2020 @ 3:39pm 
Thank you for the info :)
corew68 Jul 19, 2021 @ 12:57pm 
Pushed a bit Fuze levels compared to last year
55 blue
44 red
31 yellow
23 green

14 stands
With this i output around 76e6 MCs daily, so seems just 15 days to reach 100, perhaps 40 to 150


19 day off so far.

Is there a max 150 levels? Just in case, i calculated 1e9 MCs are needed to level 100; 3e9 MCs to 150

muljostpho Jul 19, 2021 @ 2:44pm 
It's been... 4 days since this started up again. (Update was on July 15.)

I'm currently at:
56 blue
46 red
34 yellow
26 green
and 13 stands
That's making about... 81.6 million MC per day.
And... It looks like 10.52 days worth of this income rate would pay for 100 days off.

I have not used anything on days off yet. Right this moment I have about 500k MC unspent, and if I wanted to start burning some on days off it looks like that would cover... 7 days.

EDIT: Digging through when previous updates happened, it looks like last year this event started on July 17. So the original post was made when the event had been running for 15 days. If I remember to make note of my numbers again on August 3 I can compare them to the numbers I posted last year.

EDIT2:
Originally posted by corew68:
Is there a max 150 levels? Just in case, i calculated 1e9 MCs are needed to level 100; 3e9 MCs to 150

Event point cap is 600. I don't know about you but I've got 550 event points built up already from all the previous events, so only 50 days off are needed for me to max out the event points. But it says that the days off themselves are capped at 500. We can keep going and going and going on and on for quite a while beyond capping the event points. And it's a total of 859,005,000 MC to pay for the first 100 days off. Let's see... just getting the first 50 days off will only be a total of 110,755,000 MC.
Last edited by muljostpho; Jul 19, 2021 @ 3:14pm
muljostpho Aug 3, 2021 @ 2:11am 
Originally posted by muljostpho:
EDIT: Digging through when previous updates happened, it looks like last year this event started on July 17. So the original post was made when the event had been running for 15 days. If I remember to make note of my numbers again on August 3 I can compare them to the numbers I posted last year.

Hey, the date has come. So in 2020, 15 days after Fuze started that year I had been at

Originally posted by muljostpho:
* 65 blue
* 55 red
* 45 yellow
* 35 green
* 15 stands
* 50 days off
* And I have 126.780e6 MC available to spend.

And now that it's been 15 days after the start of Fuze 2021, I can make a direct comparison and say that I've actually run this one a bit more efficiently than last year. (Or rather... It's because of holding out a bit longer before spending anything on days off.)

My current numbers are...
* 69 blue (+4 compared to last year)
* 59 red (+4 compared to last year)
* 47 yellow (+2 compared to last year)
* 38 green (+3 compared to last year)
* 16 stands (+1 compared to last year)
* about 65e6 MC currently available to spend

I have not yet collected any days off, but at my current income rate the first 100 days off would be equal to 6.42 days worth of income. Let's burn as much of that 65e6 MC as possible on days off... And now I'm at 42 days off, with about 3e6 MC leftover. And that leaves me needing... about 5.92 days worth of my current income rate to earn enough for days 43 to 100.

Hmmm.... Well, I just adjusted my sheet to include a calculation for 500 days off, since that's the limit stated on the events page. The total cost for days 1 to 500 is 104,795,005,000 MC. At my current income rate, that's a whopping 783.26 days worth of income. Somewhere around a couple years past when they would be likely to replace it with the next event.
corew68 Aug 3, 2021 @ 7:05am 
Unsure how to move. I pushed values a bit under these, (64 - 52 - 41 - 34 + 16) and seems around 2 or 3 years needed to reach 600 days off

I believe event lasted a few months, I see no way to reach 600

At my current values... each level increase costs perhaps 1 day production, raising perhaps a 2-3%... 40 days needed to x2... So another 40 days to recover... The cost grows very fast, son unsure if this 1 day + 2-3% diminishes

In case event lasted 3 months... perhaps it would be worthy. Going to push a few days more

EDIT 1 week elapsed.
Pushed to 67-57-46-38 x16, so able to farm 130k MC daily, perhaps a 30% increase

To reach the 500... considering i ve bought 100 days... still 750 days needed.

To reach
200, 46 days needed
300. 167 days
400, 404 days

Last edited by corew68; Aug 9, 2021 @ 10:37pm
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