BEST units?

[Shawshank]

Where are the best provincial units?

I have discovered that Galatia has superb warriors.
Does Dacia have the same, maybe falax spear warriors?

What regions did you find most beneficial to own for the troop potential?

[Brucato]

Thracia has some pretty decent mountain units.

[Patrus]

Crete has good archers, probably the best skirmishers in the game. There are also some other provinces with archers in Africa. If you don't use FoG 2 battles, they are very useful in combat.
Balearic slingers are slightly weaker, but still good skirmishers.

[Shawshank]

I play without the FoG 2 Battles, so good stats are valuable. Especially units with no negatives from bad terrain. At the moment I am playing Athens and Macedon, trying to weather the Persian storm. So to counter Persia, the Galatia Infantry is the strongest heavy infantry I have discovered so far. Since they have Att5-Def5-Hit4-Eff3-RangeDef5 and 13 combat power.

[Patrus]

Cretan archers give units standing in front of them +3 combat bonus in offensive battles, so for example for Galatia Infantry, they would have 8 attack.

[Shawshank]

Originally posted by Patrus:

Cretan archers give units standing in front of them +3 combat bonus in offensive battles, so for example for Galatia Infantry, they would have 8 attack.

Now I knew about support bonus, but I thought it was a automatic +2 support.
However; "Support units provide one third of their ranged attack strength if
they belong to the support category or +1 if it is a melee type unit, to
the strength of the relevant combat units."

Now that means 9 range attack support units are King.
Well getting Crete up and running takes a lot of time, but I see the value of it now.

[Shawshank]

Light javelin cavalry has 6 range att. while normal javelins has 5. Is there any downside to using all horse javelins instead of javelins, if you get +2 instead of +1? This would be a temporary measure when there are no better range attack units available, maybe?

[Patrus]

Skirmishers with 5 ranged attack give +2 support bonus. I believe, that the number is rounded to the nearest integer after dividing by 3.
If cavalry unit has better stats than infantry unit, then the only downside I can think of is probably higher upkeep cost.
Edit: and one more thing - foot skirmishers can be upgraded in master fletcher building (+1 ranged, I don't remember if attack or defense (edit 2: it's ranged offense)), while light cavalry can't (it can only be upgraded in stable master, which gives +1 defense - less useful if you use it in a skirmisher role).

[Patrus]

On the main subject: I remembered some more good provincial units:
In Caledonia (Scotland) there is Pictish Warband (it's available if you have at least second civilization level, I think). It's a good heavy infantry that not only is not clumsy, it actually gets a "mountainmen" trait. It's probably one of the best (if not the best) frontline unit to fight in mountains and hills.
In the neigbouring "Britania superior" province you get Britonnic Warriors, who are similar, but get "woodsmen" trait instead. They are very good in forests. They also get the "besieger" trait (despite being heavy infantry). Britania Inferior has very similar provincial unit.

[a_delo3]

In my opinion it depends on your nation's array of units, and if plan to fight the battles in Field of Glory II.
As an example I value highly Cretan archers if playing as Athens, Sparta, etc...since they fill a noticeably gap in those factions' armies. Galatians are basically everyman's legionaries so are amazing for those nations with lackluster heavy foot, or if can not affort to upgrade your heavy foot to tier II.
Armenia gives you the might cataphracts, but the factions which would get the most from them are too far from Armenia to conquer the region when it would matter the most.
If play the battles in FoG2 good skirmish cavalry such as the Numidians is an excellent asset

In Rise of Persia scenario some regional units should have been removed, both for historical accuracy (Celtic tribes reached Galatia only in III century bC) or because they break the game balance (Persians are not supposed to have heavy foot heavier than the Greeks'); likewise, if playing as Athens it should not be overly complex to push to Armenia and start fielding the cataphracts, against whom Persia does not have any answer

[b4ry]

Originally posted by Patrus:

On the main subject: I remembered some more good provincial units:
In Caledonia (Scotland) there is Pictish Warband (it's available if you have at least second civilization level, I think). It's a good heavy infantry that not only is not clumsy, it actually gets a "mountainmen" trait. It's probably one of the best (if not the best) frontline unit to fight in mountains and hills.
In the neigbouring "Britania superior" province you get Britonnic Warriors, who are similar, but get "woodsmen" trait instead. They are very good in forests. They also get the "besieger" trait (despite being heavy infantry). Britania Inferior has very similar provincial unit.

Samnium has a similar unit that I cannot recall the name of. Heavy infantry to fight in mountains. They are super crazy but quite expensive.

[PocusFR]

The Lin Teata Legio ...
"Faster and stronger than some other types of Heavy Infantry, these Samnites warriors wear a tough but light breast armor made of multi-layered, compressed flax fibers ('Lin')"
They have +1 Move +1 Effectiveness and ... the Mountainous trait !

[Shawshank]

Originally posted by Patrus:

On the main subject: I remembered some more good provincial units:
In Caledonia (Scotland) there is Pictish Warband (it's available if you have at least second civilization level, I think). It's a good heavy infantry that not only is not clumsy, it actually gets a "mountainmen" trait. It's probably one of the best (if not the best) frontline unit to fight in mountains and hills.
In the neigbouring "Britania superior" province you get Britonnic Warriors, who are similar, but get "woodsmen" trait instead. They are very good in forests. They also get the "besieger" trait (despite being heavy infantry). Britania Inferior has very similar provincial unit.

I looked into the Pict (Caledonian) Warband;

CombatPower--Attack-Defence-Hits-Effectivness-RangedDefence

3--4-3-2-2-4
With mountain trait it is;
3--5-4-2-2-4
So it should be decent as medium infantry on hill, and kick ass in Alpine.

The Britonnic Warriors could be among the best heavy infantry in forest, only beaten by the Luggi' Rex Custodiae;

16--6-6-4-3-5
However with forest trait the stats are;
16--7-7-4-3-5

Now do the Provincial Units change with civilization level?

[Shawshank]

Originally posted by b4rystoteles:

Originally posted by Patrus:

On the main subject: I remembered some more good provincial units:
In Caledonia (Scotland) there is Pictish Warband (it's available if you have at least second civilization level, I think). It's a good heavy infantry that not only is not clumsy, it actually gets a "mountainmen" trait. It's probably one of the best (if not the best) frontline unit to fight in mountains and hills.
In the neigbouring "Britania superior" province you get Britonnic Warriors, who are similar, but get "woodsmen" trait instead. They are very good in forests. They also get the "besieger" trait (despite being heavy infantry). Britania Inferior has very similar provincial unit.

Samnium has a similar unit that I cannot recall the name of. Heavy infantry to fight in mountains. They are super crazy but quite expensive.

WOW that is GOLD

Could be the best of the best. Even better than a Roman Legion in hilly terrain.
And they are not Provincal, so the cost to buy them do not increase.

[Shawshank]

Originally posted by PocusFR:

The Lin Teata Legio ...
"Faster and stronger than some other types of Heavy Infantry, these Samnites warriors wear a tough but light breast armor made of multi-layered, compressed flax fibers ('Lin')"
They have +1 Move +1 Effectiveness and ... the Mountainous trait !

Now does the Provincial Units of each province, change with civilization level?
Or do you get improvements to stats from leveling up CIV?

[Rommelstiltskin]

Italian light foot in the rone starting area provided excellent rough terrain troops in my conquest of Cisalpina. Not flashy but useful as hell