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[playoftheyear]

Pride of Nations 2, in mechanics of what you can do and such.
I noticed after I read the diplomatic update that this game got a bit more interesting. It's a good thing if it reminds some of the deeper AGEOD game in respect to trade and building even if this game doesn't touch the colonial aspect.

[Nikiforos V Fokas]

PoN. In my opinion it contained the very best economic subsystem in strategy gaming; a Victoria II (closest competitor) beater -had it received as much love in almost all of the remainder.

This game is far more streamlined and some say it replaces the future of Alea Iacta Est series, which it resembles in theory. The stand out feature here is entropy of polities; a rising and falling of Empires, both big and small. If you liked trade in PoN (who wouldn't?) then you should like this enormously but be aware it's an abstracted trading system rather than semi-manual.

[loki1006]

I think the new diplo options deliberately draw off concepts in PoN, in particular that if you don't use up all your warscore then future relations are much easier etc.

but then I have always regarded PoN as a work of genius held back by the AGE engine and lack of support from its then publisher (Paradox), the idea of reworking those ideas around colonialism and economics in the new game engine does rather inspire me

[playoftheyear]

I'm about to buy this today, I jumped on the bandwagon late with a cheap bundle of Ageod games 3 years ago and think AJE is very awesome and that time period has much to do with even Christmas as today is ! but I have had my eye on the very next thing AGEOD develops, and this is it, and am grabbing it. Plus Paradox and all that DLC always is kind of what led me to looking elsewhere for strats.
I liked PoN too and maybe it takes someone to say y'know how good a system in the game is to really look at it from too complex to intriguing and that lessens the fear with working with it. But yea PoN just took too long turn times and needed something like 64 bit.

And I know I can find out in another post , but I was worried about the combat and the switch to FoG2, now I read that it was done obtusely and that there was waiting for that game to open and load and such and when finished it wasn't all that spectacular also. Is it a hassle to use that game all the time to fight?, I will read up, because some reviewss said it was almost seamless transition while maybe earlier reviews stated it was bad..

[loki1006]

the shift to/from FoG2 is as automatic as is possible given they are different games by different design teams. A battle occurs in Empires, you have the option to export, click, FoG2 opens, open the battle, deploy/fight, battle ends, restart Empires, import the result. Actually takes less time to do than describe.

The only quirk is one time only, you need to have Empires open and launch FoG2 (then close it), this establishes the permanent link between the 2 game.

Having said that, the in-Empires battle resolution system is good, I tend to use FoG2 for an odd battle - terrain/force match up etc

[Hannibal0216 도마도 재배자]

Originally posted by playoftheyear:

And I know I can find out in another post , but I was worried about the combat and the switch to FoG2, now I read that it was done obtusely and that there was waiting for that game to open and load and such and when finished it wasn't all that spectacular also. Is it a hassle to use that game all the time to fight?, I will read up, because some reviewss said it was almost seamless transition while maybe earlier reviews stated it was bad..

It's actually very smooth. I agree with everything the guy above me said.... It takes less time for you to open the battle in FoG2 then it takes a battle to load in Total War.

[playoftheyear]

A BIG Thanks to all those who helped. The game I was looking for is Wars of Napoleon, it uses that exact structure as Pride of Nations. I will come back and try FoG empires in the near future