Merging Cheat? WAD?

[Tanaka]

If you have an army in a province and recruit a unit that turn on the next turn the unit gets automatically put in the army and loses no experience. But if you move that army to another province before and then move the newly recruited unit over to that province next turn and merge them the newly recruited unit loses experience. What is the difference and should a new unit that has never had a general lose experience when merged or only units that change generals? Also if you recruit new units with no army in the province and create a new army with a general the units also lose experience when they have never changed generals. I think it should only be if changing because of this exploit. Not first time generals or if moved. Or either don't allow new units to be automatically put in standing armies and lose no experience.

[Ragu]

it's because you recruit new units BEFORE any moves - so this unit can be in battle in first turn (and have exp penalty from new general)

[Tanaka]

Originally posted by Ragu:

it's because you recruit new units BEFORE any moves - so this unit can be in battle in first turn (and have exp penalty from new general)

What does moving have to do with it though? That should not even be a factor. It should only be about changing generals.

[Ragu]

it penalty because general never command this unit before (and unit regain his exp next turn)

[Tanaka]

Originally posted by Ragu:

it penalty because general never command this unit before (and unit regain his exp next turn)

Not the case if the newly recruited unit is auto'd into the standing army. My point.

[Ragu]

Originally posted by Tanaka:

Not the case if the newly recruited unit is auto'd into the standing army. My point.

you recruit unit in this turn, not next - so after turn calculation you see no penalty (but you can see it if this army will be in battle )

[Tanaka]

Originally posted by Ragu:

Originally posted by Tanaka:

Not the case if the newly recruited unit is auto'd into the standing army. My point.

you recruit unit in this turn, not next - so after turn calculation you see no penalty (but you can see it if this army will be in battle )

Nope it takes a turn for the unit to be recruited. I recruit Companion Cav at three stars with army in province. Next turn Companion Cav is recruited and automatically placed into standing army with three stars. No experience lost.

[Ragu]

Originally posted by Tanaka:

Nope it takes a turn for the unit to be recruited. I recruit Companion Cav at three stars with army in province. Next turn Companion Cav is recruited and automatically placed into standing army with three stars. No experience lost.

but if you merge it with another army AND WAIT TURN, you will see three stars again (units lose one stars for ONE turn if their general never commanded them)

and again about turn order
unit recruting happen before any army move - and if army standing in region - it's equal to merge comand

in both scenario you lost turn for army without moving

[Tanaka]

Originally posted by Ragu:

Originally posted by Tanaka:

Nope it takes a turn for the unit to be recruited. I recruit Companion Cav at three stars with army in province. Next turn Companion Cav is recruited and automatically placed into standing army with three stars. No experience lost.

but if you merge it with another army AND WAIT TURN, you will see three stars again (units lose one stars for ONE turn if their general never commanded them)

and again about turn order
unit recruting happen before any army move - and if army standing in region - it's equal to merge comand

in both scenario you lost turn for army without moving

So you gain experience back in one turn without doing anything? Um ok weird. Thought you had to gain experience from battles.

[Ragu]

yeah you don't need exp from battles for this exp return
penalty from new units for general is temporal for one turn (-1 exp lvl) (and i definitely saw about this in general's tooltip with number of units affected)

[Tanaka]

Originally posted by Ragu:

yeah you don't need exp from battles for this exp return
penalty from new units for general is temporal for one turn (-1 exp lvl) (and i definitely saw about this in general's tooltip with number of units affected)

Gotcha thanks I thought it was permanent!