How do I upgrade my legions, i.e Marian Reforms, Camillan reforms etc?

[smartspick]

Please help me?

[SPARTANMST]

They will show up as decisions you can take which have a few requirements for each. I'm not sure if when they show up is random or not but I've progressed to Early Imperial Legions already and it's still only 195 BCE.

[Bunks]

When you obtain 3 provinces, Marion reforms will come up. At 7 Provinces Imperial Legions option pops up.

You have two option, slow paced reforms or instant. Slow allows your legions to retain XP and gives more legacy. So if you have a lull and a good standing army, go the slow method.

I might add, Alea become legions under Imperial reforms and Velites become Auxilia(very good garrison units) and cheap with better stats than Provincial inf, plus javelins. but Italian Provincials stay the same so consider that when you garrison your frontiers.

[Felius]

When you obtain 3 provinces, Marion reforms will come up. At 7 Provinces Imperial Legions option pops up.

A bit of a necro, but I went digging through the files, and it seems that this is false. The actual trigger seems to be:

// Rome - Marian Reform
else if ( (decisionID == $ID_DEC_ROM_MARIAN_REFORM && Evt_Rome_Marian_Tracker == FALSE) && (Evt_Rome_ImperialLegion_Tracker == FALSE && Dice(100) <= (turn + scenAdvance - 60) /3) )
{
Faction_Decisions_Add(factionID, decisionID);
given++;
overall++;
Evt_Rome_Marian_Tracker = TRUE; // won't be given again
}

Where scenAdvance is dependent on scenario and roughly how many years since Alexander's Death from the start of that scenario. For the grand campaign, it's 13.

Basically, what it means is that it's just a random chance based on turn, starting at around a 1% chance per turn chance on turn 50. It's even technically possible to not get the reform up until over half the game went through, but the chance is so astronomically minuscule that it doesn't really matter.

Specifically, you should have a 50% cumulative chance to get it by turn 68 or earlier, and a 95% chance for it to happen by turn 89 or earlier. Province number does not seem to matter in any way.

Imperial reforms are similar function, just 40 turns shifted forward if I'm reading it right, and requiring the Marian reforms to have previously happened.

[PocusFR]

See the other thread on that. Chances are that you'll get the proposition before the actual historical date. But you'll need first and foremost 3 provinces to enact it.

[Hazel Horse]

114 turns in, Imperial, more than 3 provinces:

Not getting it.

[PocusFR]

You have triggered the Marian reform before? That said, you are perhaps unlucky, but it will come!

[Hazel Horse]

I have not!

I'm Imperial/Empire in government, but I'm still with my game start units [bar provincials from areas gained]

[PocusFR]

Have you received the Marian reform but failed to enable it in time, or you never got it in the first place?

[Hazel Horse]

Never got it.

Only got the 'explore areas' + Merchant [gold/iron/manpower] + slave markets + one science decision + extra food decision + appoint dictator

[Hazel Horse]

Turn 122, finally occured

[Hazel Horse]

Turn 124, got Imperial legions