If this is through DOSBox, why is Steam even charging for this?

[Rusted~Temple]

I get that you obtain the collection, but you can get almost all of these playable through DOSBox for free. wtf

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by Rusted~Temple:

If this is through DOSBox, why is Steam even charging for this?

I get that you obtain the collection, but you can get almost all of these playable through DOSBox for free. wtf

No, DOSBox is just an emulator for old PC games. DOSBox does not give away games for free. And no, just because you can get a game for free on the internet, doesn't mean it isn't piracy.

[Rusted~Temple]

Originally posted by BossGalaga:

Originally posted by Rusted~Temple:

If this is through DOSBox, why is Steam even charging for this?

I get that you obtain the collection, but you can get almost all of these playable through DOSBox for free. wtf

No, DOSBox is just an emulator for old PC games. DOSBox does not give away games for free. And no, just because you can get a game for free on the internet, doesn't mean it isn't piracy.

Yes DOSBox is the emulator, but the games are available for download and browser play in various site using DOSBox or other emulators. In fact you can download Space Quest 1 on Google Play FOR FREE.

The sites that provide you with the files you need are all legitimate resources, many sponsored. Classicreload/ Playclassic/ gamesnostalgia/ playminigames....etc....all provide the files and are not pirating. Just because a game is free to play doesn't make it piracy.

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by Rusted~Temple:

Originally posted by BossGalaga:

No, DOSBox is just an emulator for old PC games. DOSBox does not give away games for free. And no, just because you can get a game for free on the internet, doesn't mean it isn't piracy.

Yes DOSBox is the emulator, but the games are available for download and browser play in various site using DOSBox or other emulators. In fact you can download Space Quest 1 on Google Play FOR FREE.

The sites that provide you with the files you need are all legitimate resources, many sponsored. Classicreload/ Playclassic/ gamesnostalgia/ playminigames....etc....all provide the files and are not pirating. Just because a game is free to play doesn't make it piracy.

That google play app was released by some random Russian person (you can see on the details page) with no license. Random people or websites getting away with piracy doesn't make it legal. You're trying to claim that just because it's on the internet, that makes it okay. Look, I'm not telling you how to live your life but the Steam forum does have actual rules and guidelines against encouraging, promoting and advocating piracy.

[Krushak]

Because people like you are the reason why DRM exists. People like you are the reason why most companies do what they do because no one will legit buy their stuff. The games were never "abandonware" and those who do use it in browser, is not the best way to play the game since you can't customize their emulator on their browser... I had to manually edit my own dosbox and slow down the cycles(Also the dos box that comes with the game is out dated anyway) cause everything was moving faster than Roger lol.

[Dryspace]

Another selfish kidult.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by Krushak:

Because people like you are the reason why DRM exists. People like you are the reason why most companies do what they do because no one will legit buy their stuff. The games were never "abandonware" and those who do use it in browser, is not the best way to play the game since you can't customize their emulator on their browser... I had to manually edit my own dosbox and slow down the cycles(Also the dos box that comes with the game is out dated anyway) cause everything was moving faster than Roger lol.

Greed is the thinking which makes everything go south. It's an incurable and unquenchable addiction which changes human thinking. Sometimes, it even resembles a religion with a false god of worship, and people will do anything to get more and more of this false god.

This earth is going to get cleaned. Stupid blood god.

[BigCheese]

Now you have the series backed up on steam servers.

[KaosReigns]

Originally posted by BossGalaga:

No, DOSBox is just an emulator for old PC games. DOSBox does not give away games for free. And no, just because you can get a game for free on the internet, doesn't mean it isn't piracy.

You are stepping into a difficult to defend argument mate.

There is a few different caveats, but it boils down to a pretty simple thing. How to get access to said media.

So, just to prove my point, there is a game on the NES (Nintendo) called The Legend of the Ghost Lion. It is a SUPER hard game to find, and there are no ports of it available at all. So, the only way to play this title, is to not only find a copy of it, but to also get a working nintendo.

Should this be the case? Are we going to gatekeep people out of playing older titles, simply cuz they didnt exist at that point in history? Personally, I think thats a load of crap.

These games, Space Quest, King's Quest, Police Quest etc. Are kind of an exception atm, because of these re-releases. Prior to their release date however, the only way to play them, was to either know someone who owned them, or got a copy and played through dosbox.

[Krushak]

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

Originally posted by BossGalaga:

No, DOSBox is just an emulator for old PC games. DOSBox does not give away games for free. And no, just because you can get a game for free on the internet, doesn't mean it isn't piracy.

You are stepping into a difficult to defend argument mate.

There is a few different caveats, but it boils down to a pretty simple thing. How to get access to said media.

So, just to prove my point, there is a game on the NES (Nintendo) called The Legend of the Ghost Lion. It is a SUPER hard game to find, and there are no ports of it available at all. So, the only way to play this title, is to not only find a copy of it, but to also get a working nintendo.

Should this be the case? Are we going to gatekeep people out of playing older titles, simply cuz they didnt exist at that point in history? Personally, I think thats a load of crap.

These games, Space Quest, King's Quest, Police Quest etc. Are kind of an exception atm, because of these re-releases. Prior to their release date however, the only way to play them, was to either know someone who owned them, or got a copy and played through dosbox.

That's a bogus arguement. Ghost Lion is way different. There are ways to purchase and own Kings Quest, Police Quest, Gaberial Sins of the Father and etc. If these DOS games were that rare(They aren't due to GoG/STEAM), then yes go ahead and copy that floppy and or find it for free but since there is a way to own them. Purchase them.

[KaosReigns]

Originally posted by Krushak:

That's a bogus arguement. Ghost Lion is way different. There are ways to purchase and own Kings Quest, Police Quest, Gaberial Sins of the Father and etc.

NOW, yes... Would you read what I wrote a bit more closely please. Especially the last paragraph.

[Dryspace]

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

NOW, yes... Would you read what I wrote a bit more closely please. Especially the last paragraph.

No, you are wrong. I purchased the King's Quest Collection (KQ - KQ7) in 2009 --- a boxed copy of the games which I own.

The other games were probably sold as well, though I can't be bothered to look that up.

[KaosReigns]

Originally posted by Dryspace:

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

NOW, yes... Would you read what I wrote a bit more closely please. Especially the last paragraph.

No, you are wrong. I purchased the King's Quest Collection (KQ - KQ7) in 2009 --- a boxed copy of the games which I own.

The other games were probably sold as well, though I can't be bothered to look that up.

No, I am not wrong. After Sierra went down, ALL their IPs were in limbo. At THAT time, they were all "freeware".

What you are talking about, are NOT the versions I am referring to. Those versions didnt even bloody exist at the time I mean.

The copies you bought, DO NOT REQUIRE dosbox to run. This alone, should tell you they are different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Entertainment

Notice who happened to buy it JUST before the year you mentioned?

[Dryspace]

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

No, I am not wrong. After Sierra went down, ALL their IPs were in limbo. At THAT time, they were all "freeware".

You are flat-out wrong, and your statement is flat-out false.

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

The copies you bought, DO NOT REQUIRE dosbox to run. This alone, should tell you they are different.

They absolutely require DOSBox to run. The 2006 Vivendi King's Quest Collection came with DOSBox 0.63 (There is a patch which upgrades it to 0.65).

I checked, and yep --- Vivendi also released collections for Space Quest, LSL, and Police Quest.

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

For crying out loud man... There is a point in time, it was abandonware. Now, im done here, see ya.

Just because the IP changed hands doesn't mean that no one owned it.

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

It is a SUPER hard game to find, and there are no ports of it available at all. So, the only way to play this title, is to not only find a copy of it, but to also get a working nintendo.

A game being "SUPER hard" to find does not make it legal to pirate it.

You dug up a comment I posted last year for this stupidity? This is Steam. These are the Steam forums. If you want to pirate your games, go somewhere else and do that.

[Dryspace]

.....Aaaand it turns out..... He's dishonest after all.

If he were honest, he would have simply admitted that he was wrong, and moved on with his life.