was going to buy but......

[Elemeno.]

apparently there are certain things you cant model or texture using 3d coat like religious thing or the naked body? can anyone give me information on this?

[Elemeno.]

its ok ive read enough about the company and "its voice" to now i dont want to purchase the software, this is personal disision and not one i ask others to follow .

also i am happy for you to lock the discussion

[Pangolin Legends: Arceus]

You can model whatever you like. Usually it's best to just ignore the opinions of developers and use whatever software you want or need. People can boycott certain companies or devs if they feel their ideals are contrary enough to their own but it makes little difference to the company's bottom line and a bigger difference to the customer who chooses not to use what would be the best software for them.

[Elemeno.]

but can you legal be in trouble for going against the eula?

[Pangolin Legends: Arceus]

OK I just read the EULA now and there is no mention of any of this in it. I read a forum thread from 2009 that said the controversial stuff in question had been removed from the EULA.

[Elemeno.]

Ok .. so basically they can't do anything ... and they are just asking out of kindness not to have anything like demons or anything against god etc ?

[Pangolin Legends: Arceus]

Yes.

[lil]

Now I'm half tempted to buy it just to model god and angels.

And that's not a flattering thing to do to christianity. If you actually read the bible, the descriptions of god and angels are creepy to the point of making zombies look huggable.

For example, in the actual biblical descriptions, nothing so nice as cheribums being babies with wings or god being an old man with a beard. The actual descriptions have one type of angel being these crazy balls of wings covered in eyes and multiple faces, another type of angel is these weird spinning but non rotating wheels that sounds like Lovecrafts' often mentioned "otherworldly geometry" putting them visually up there with creatures like Cthullhu. Then god is discribed as this thing with clay for its feet (sludge monster feet?) and a giant sword coming out of his mouth. And Jesus's spiritual form in revelation is the multi-headed ram with horns and crowns that challenges cerberus for creepiest sidekick of someone who watches after an afterlife.

Honestly, it's nightmare fuel kind of stuff.

And most christians think angels are just people in robes with wings. (Spoiler: The only mythical creatures that look like -that- are Valkaryies and Harpies.)

[𒊺 Bröther Tom 𒊺]

Originally posted by lil Joshu:

Now I'm half tempted to buy it just to model god and angels.

And that's not a flattering thing to do to christianity. If you actually read the bible, the descriptions of god and angels are creepy to the point of making zombies look huggable.

For example, in the actual biblical descriptions, nothing so nice as cheribums being babies with wings or god being an old man with a beard. The actual descriptions have one type of angel being these crazy balls of wings covered in eyes and multiple faces, another type of angel is these weird spinning but non rotating wheels that sounds like Lovecrafts' often mentioned "otherworldly geometry" putting them visually up there with creatures like Cthullhu. Then god is discribed as this thing with clay for its feet (sludge monster feet?) and a giant sword coming out of his mouth. And Jesus's spiritual form in revelation is the multi-headed ram with horns and crowns that challenges cerberus for creepiest sidekick of someone who watches after an afterlife.

Honestly, it's nightmare fuel kind of stuff.

And most christians think angels are just people in robes with wings. (Spoiler: The only mythical creatures that look like -that- are Valkaryies and Harpies.)

You just made my day much more interesting !

[Zeriel00]

Originally posted by John Smith:

Originally posted by lil Joshu:

Now I'm half tempted to buy it just to model god and angels.

And that's not a flattering thing to do to christianity. If you actually read the bible, the descriptions of god and angels are creepy to the point of making zombies look huggable.

For example, in the actual biblical descriptions, nothing so nice as cheribums being babies with wings or god being an old man with a beard. The actual descriptions have one type of angel being these crazy balls of wings covered in eyes and multiple faces, another type of angel is these weird spinning but non rotating wheels that sounds like Lovecrafts' often mentioned "otherworldly geometry" putting them visually up there with creatures like Cthullhu. Then god is discribed as this thing with clay for its feet (sludge monster feet?) and a giant sword coming out of his mouth. And Jesus's spiritual form in revelation is the multi-headed ram with horns and crowns that challenges cerberus for creepiest sidekick of someone who watches after an afterlife.

Honestly, it's nightmare fuel kind of stuff.

And most christians think angels are just people in robes with wings. (Spoiler: The only mythical creatures that look like -that- are Valkaryies and Harpies.)

You just made my day much more interesting !

I also love the Bible descriptions, I don't know why so many people think angels are naked babies? One of the Angels of death is described as a giant full of eyes so terrible that when (I forgot who it was) talked to God directly he just asked him not to let that Angel get to him, so he was taken to heaven without dying or something like that. The stories are really cool to try and make character designs.

[Flock of These]

Yea, they are really neat. Here is a Cherubim being all holy http://i.imgur.com/dIRlDiZ.jpg

[Smufius]

Originally posted by lil Joshu:

Now I'm half tempted to buy it just to model god and angels.

And that's not a flattering thing to do to christianity. If you actually read the bible, the descriptions of god and angels are creepy to the point of making zombies look huggable.

For example, in the actual biblical descriptions, nothing so nice as cheribums being babies with wings or god being an old man with a beard. The actual descriptions have one type of angel being these crazy balls of wings covered in eyes and multiple faces, another type of angel is these weird spinning but non rotating wheels that sounds like Lovecrafts' often mentioned "otherworldly geometry" putting them visually up there with creatures like Cthullhu. Then god is discribed as this thing with clay for its feet (sludge monster feet?) and a giant sword coming out of his mouth. And Jesus's spiritual form in revelation is the multi-headed ram with horns and crowns that challenges cerberus for creepiest sidekick of someone who watches after an afterlife.

Honestly, it's nightmare fuel kind of stuff.

And most christians think angels are just people in robes with wings. (Spoiler: The only mythical creatures that look like -that- are Valkaryies and Harpies.)

Someone's been playing Bayonetta.

[shayne.oneill]

Look, fellas, the devs are adamant they have no intention of stopping you doing whatever you want with the product. They ask, but don't order. So your not going to get cops on your door saying "Not jesus enough!". And its not ACTAULLY in thr EULA


I get the concern, I'm an atheist too. But as an old guy, I've also learned to be a bit more tolerant about this. 56% of the world follow an Abrahamic religion (Mostly christians and muslims). Then on top of that theres another 15% hindus, 7% budhists and then another 6-7% following folk religions (african tribal religions, stuff like that). atheists and agnostics make up a measly 16%.


So if you base your opinions of other people based on what their religion is, your going to end up a very lonely person, and if you base youre commercial decisions on it, you'll spend the rest of your life completely unemployable and probably starve to death having boycott food in general, most of which comes from country folk and those guys a hella into the whole religion thing (Trust me, I grew up country.


You don't have to believe their religion. Personally, I think religions nutty. BUT they've said on multiple times, that their whole "dont do stuff we think is bad" thing is a request , not an order. Heck, they've even stated they wont stop you using the educational/personal license for commercial projects.


Live and let live is my motto. I think deep down EVERYBODY is a bit crazy. So I have my crazy, you have your crazy. Lifes to short to worry about the other guys crazy, when theres more interesting things to do in the 80ish years we get to live on this big dumb planet

Don't stress it . Its just not very important and seriously its a really nice piece of software.

[Dial 8]

"i was going to buy this thing then I fiound out some religious stuff and I don't like religious stuff so I'm here to talk about religious stuff even though I don't like other people talking about religious stuff"

Wow, you must be like, really high IQ and totally awesome as a person. Can we be friends?

[Pangolin Legends: Arceus]

Originally posted by JASONxxVOORHEES:

"i was going to buy this thing then I fiound out some religious stuff and I don't like religious stuff so I'm here to talk about religious stuff even though I don't like other people talking about religious stuff"

Wow, you must be like, really high IQ and totally awesome as a person. Can we be friends?

Have you heard the expression "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing" ?

[Dial 8]

Originally posted by pango:

Originally posted by JASONxxVOORHEES:

"i was going to buy this thing then I fiound out some religious stuff and I don't like religious stuff so I'm here to talk about religious stuff even though I don't like other people talking about religious stuff"

Wow, you must be like, really high IQ and totally awesome as a person. Can we be friends?

Have you heard the expression "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing" ?

Have you? You hardly said anything "nice".