Sandlot has sold more than 1 million EDF 5 units. 38$~ * 1 Million+

[Lavoroxan]

Lets stop sniffing copium for a moment, games like left 4 dead, World War z, Payday 2, Dynasty Warrior, etc show that having hordes upon hordes of enemies is completely possible without sacrificing all graphical fidelity. I've been a fan of EDF since insect armageddon and im sick and tired of Sandlot releasing a new full price game just for some QOL changes and a new story. (Especially in the 2017 - 2025 - 4.1 - 5 - 6 line)

EDF games look and play like they had a budget of 90 yen, and considering how well they sell, i have deduced that 95% of the income Sandlot makes goes straight into Yakuza pockets. There is no other way.

Can someone please convince Sandlot to invest more cash into EDF, i really want this beloved series to become better and more mainstream.

[Moth]

What are you actually complaining about here? The EDF titles have had various improvements and additions over their iterations, and graphics isn't everything. In fact, the game is benefited by its cartoony style.

[ifyucantbeatmexd]

they did that it's called iron rain and i love it but it seems to have flopped and gets lot of hate from most fans

[Lavoroxan]

My fellow ranger, it took them an entire new installment (4.1 -> 5) to add a 3rd equipment slot to Air Raider, for example. I think such things could be updates instead. What pains me most here is that such a release philosophy makes it hard to recommend the games to others.

There is such a thing as cartoony style, and then there is such a thing as forward facing explosion sprites, cardboard box houses and enemy corpses popping out of existence with no animation. I know 4k volumetric ant farts isn't necessary, but i'm tired of hearing again and again that we can't have Iron Rain graphics on a good EDF game because "it wouldnt work with the amount of enemies". I also think that Sandlot certainly has enough money to do it if they want to.

[The Grand Mugwump]

None of those games have massive explosions which cause huge amounts of body/armor parts to go flying everywhere. EDF doesn't strain much most of the time, but it spikes like a son of a gun when the bombs start dropping.

[Cathulhu]

Originally posted by ifyucantbeatmexd:

they did that it's called iron rain and i love it but it seems to have flopped and gets lot of hate from most fans

Let's be fair, the graphics weren't the reason why the game flopped.

[BlueBomber]

Originally posted by Cathulhu:

Originally posted by ifyucantbeatmexd:

they did that it's called iron rain and i love it but it seems to have flopped and gets lot of hate from most fans

Let's be fair, the graphics weren't the reason why the game flopped.

The controls also broken, cant even aim properly in iron rain. They kinda just port controller analog to mouse or something without testing. Really hard to shoot even a drone.

[ifyucantbeatmexd]

i dunno about the above issues, i play on ps5 but i think it's a perfectly fine game
it definitely has a different feel ofc (more heavy, realistic) but that's the whole point, it's a spinoff

Originally posted by The Grand Mugwump:

None of those games have massive explosions which cause huge amounts of body/armor parts to go flying everywhere. EDF doesn't strain much most of the time, but it spikes like a son of a gun when the bombs start dropping.

i agree with this but tbf we dont know how these games are coded and we have not compared the different mechanics, interactions and polygons and visual effects in each game vs each other and how much performance they have left to use for anything else, not to mention differences in staff size and budget, keeping in mind that japanese video game staff usually tend to be really small yet create pretty amazing things
im not familiar with dynasty warriors (or musou in general, even though i play a ton of japanese games) but i have played quite a bit of samurai warriors 4 which is basically dynasty warriors but using a japanese settings, and the enemy count is impressive but the AI of the avg enemy in SW4, whether a soldier or a commander, is nowhere near as elaborate as that of even a regular ant in EDF. i think a lot of ppl heavily underappreciate the AI work for the enemies, as well the allies, in EDF

i can certainly agree with the OP though, ive checked a vid or two of some EDF6 gameplay and im super excited about it but it doesnt look like the graphics have changed much...they could've shaken it up a little by going with a bit of fresh art direction at least

[FDR'sThinkTank]

I would rather be funding Yakuza than the Marxist terrorism that American Triple A companies tend to fund.

However, you can't threaten us with a good time. The Japanese Government really cracked down on the Yakuza in the last decade. While I understand the Yakuza aren't "Good Guys" this may have been a very short sighted approach. China has managed to subvert the Criminal behaviors of their Triad gangs and place them throughout South East Asia as a way of exerting Chinese Political influence on Nations that would otherwise fully resist China.

Of course, China has way more latitude in terms of how it handles it's citizens and is more than willing to violate human rights of completely innocent and HARMLESS groups... so it's possible if Japan didn't suppress the Yakuza they would have ended up at the mercy of Organized Crime like much of South Korea faces with the Kkangpae. South Korea has been undergoing a seriously concerning societal depression despite the international success of many of their corporations.

All that being said, it's kinda crazy to blame the Yakuza for having any negative effect on video games. Nevermind the fact Sandlot is publishing the game to please their Japanese Audiences... who really EMBRACE the cheesy monster aesthetic and are sticklers for expectations... Yakuza haven't engaged in sweeping attempts to subvert the culture since they departed from their roots as con artist carnival thugs. Even at their height of power in the 1960's when they controlled much of Japanese media... they were only making sure it didn't report on them in a bad light. Or really report on them at all. They didn't try to force the public to acknowledge them as morally superior or pretend to be heroes. That relationship formed organically.

I love the B-movie flair of these games and don't feel ripped off at all. I much prefer this to a badly microtransaction ruled game or game where the "most important" thing about half the characters is how sexually demented they are.

However... the OP does make a good point: I would love to see Sandlot invest more money in games. I don't want them to change EDF the way the OP said but to make games with similar gameplay and different themes. I love shootin' and looting.

[linkers246]

Well you have games like insect armageddon and iron rain if you want those kind of stuff.

Also what I learned so far in this entertainment industry that becoming mainstream doesn't really mean a good thing. Since you may have to sacrifice a lot of charm and uniqueness from these games in order to meet the "Global Standard" thing.

[linkers246]

Originally posted by Moth:

What are you actually complaining about here? The EDF titles have had various improvements and additions over their iterations, and graphics isn't everything. In fact, the game is benefited by its cartoony style.

That is absolutely true.

[Lavoroxan]

Yeah ♥♥♥♥ triple A games, which are littered with lootboxes and stupid "no its only cosmetic bro" microtransactions.

I just think there is alot of gameplay polish to be made with the newest EDF games. (Ranger/Air Raider having dedicated jump button, better helicopter controls, being able to join mid mission, riding on friendly vehicles, spiders not shooting through walls, etc). It would also be nice if these updates arent TIED TO A NEW RELEASE.

I don't mind graphics if the game is fun, but i'm tired of seeing the "decent looking horde games isnt possible" argument when it's clearly proven wrong a dozen times.

[SLDFMechwarrior]

Yeah, I agree with you OP. I won't be buying 6 until it's heavily discounted on sale or if I can snag a cheap key somewhere. It's literally the same game, just polished a bit and resold with a "new" story. Thing is, I never payed attention to the other stories because they're trash.

[Goblin King Jareth]

Agree with your post, but that "mainstream attention" can quickly become a double edged sword these days with the garbage AAA do. World brothers I felt was already moving in that direction and looks like shallow minecraft/lego game garbage to me. I really had zero interest in swapping three characters with shallow-er mechanics and loadouts. Also how's KOEI doing these days on DW type games? Are any of them even close to the glory of EDF?