Any chance of GOG.com release?

[quixoticaxis]

Would appreciate it.

[Rogue]

Zero

[quixoticaxis]

Originally posted by Rogue:

Zero

That's just sad.

[Nailfoot]

I can't imagine this game ever being released with no DRM.

[きょすけ]

Originally posted by Nailfoot:

I can't imagine this game ever being released with no DRM.

Please, it uses basic steam drm.

Originally posted by quixoticaxis:

Would appreciate it.

It would be best to contact sandlot directly, although chances are slim, considering that 4.1 never made it on GOG, sadly. :/

[Silamon]

GoG is usually seen as an after thought unfortunately, and some of the games on there don't get updated.


And steam drm is still more than no drm. A game on GoG can be passed to a friend with a flash drive and they can play it on their computer. Steam will not let you do that unless you use family sharing.

[きょすけ]

Originally posted by Silamon:

And steam drm is still more than no drm. A game on GoG can be passed to a friend with a flash drive and they can play it on their computer. Steam will not let you do that unless you use family sharing.

This is a false myth so much, and for a couple of reasons:

1) Pirates have access to all dlc, mission dlc included; why? Because as per most games nowadays, the dlc files alre already packed into the main game, so it's only a matter of 10 seconds to toggle which dlc to enable. This is not possible on any GOG release, due to how files are handled.

2) Steam version allows pirates to play MP too, GOG version doesn't . Reason for this is pretty simple: they would need to rever engineering the GOG galaxy api, for a drm-free game to begin with, which would result in only a total waste of time, considering that steam versions are ready to go instead.

I'll also tell you one more thing: the devs of shadow warrior 2 have played it smart: the multiplayer mode on both steam and GOG galaxy uses the GOG galaxy structure to play MP, which to this day, make it impossible for pirates to play in MP without owning a legit copy of the game.

So contrary to popular belief, GOG version are more walled around dlc, updates (because every updates has it's own dlc updated for that specific version to work with), and multiplayer.

Last but not least, EDF games shine with MP, so that's a plus for a pirate to NOT go on a GOG version.

I can understand the sentiment and fear of GOG spreading easily through piracy, but this false myth should have been put to rest once and for all, especially considering the knowledge we have at hand.

With that said, I would really love to get both 4.1 and 5 on GOG, I would re-purchase them without issues.

[Sir Duckyweather]

I wish GOG got as much of an increase in popularity as Discord has over the last few years.

[きょすけ]

Originally posted by Sir Duckyweather:

I wish GOG got as much of an increase in popularity as Discord has over the last few years.

Hopefully it will be the case thanks to galaxy 2.0. At least people are already getting crazy over it...

[Silamon]

Originally posted by きょすけ:

Originally posted by Silamon:

And steam drm is still more than no drm. A game on GoG can be passed to a friend with a flash drive and they can play it on their computer. Steam will not let you do that unless you use family sharing.

This is a false myth so much, and for a couple of reasons:

1) Pirates have access to all dlc, mission dlc included; why? Because as per most games nowadays, the dlc files alre already packed into the main game, so it's only a matter of 10 seconds to toggle which dlc to enable. This is not possible on any GOG release, due to how files are handled.

2) Steam version allows pirates to play MP too, GOG version doesn't . Reason for this is pretty simple: they would need to rever engineering the GOG galaxy api, for a drm-free game to begin with, which would result in only a total waste of time, considering that steam versions are ready to go instead.

I'll also tell you one more thing: the devs of shadow warrior 2 have played it smart: the multiplayer mode on both steam and GOG galaxy uses the GOG galaxy structure to play MP, which to this day, make it impossible for pirates to play in MP without owning a legit copy of the game.

So contrary to popular belief, GOG version are more walled around dlc, updates (because every updates has it's own dlc updated for that specific version to work with), and multiplayer.

Last but not least, EDF games shine with MP, so that's a plus for a pirate to NOT go on a GOG version.

I can understand the sentiment and fear of GOG spreading easily through piracy, but this false myth should have been put to rest once and for all, especially considering the knowledge we have at hand.

With that said, I would really love to get both 4.1 and 5 on GOG, I would re-purchase them without issues.

What false myth...? Are you saying you can put a game on a flash drive and give it to a friend with steam?
I never said anything about multiplayer at all.


I am NOT saying drm free is a bad thing, that is simply what some developers think of it.

[きょすけ]

Originally posted by Silamon:

What false myth...? Are you saying you can put a game on a flash drive and give it to a friend with steam?
I never said anything about multiplayer at all.


I am NOT saying drm free is a bad thing, that is simply what some developers think of it.

I already stated that the false myth is in reagard of GOG making games easier to be pirated, which is not the case for the reasons I even stated in my previous post.

The reason for which I called out the MP is because it would automatically debunk the fact that GOG version would be pirated more easily.

As for the flash drive argument... are you for real? This is something that would have happened 10 or so years ago, but now? Why the need to go to your friend's home and get the game from him, when for most countries you'd be able to get the game eslewhere in a matter of 20 minutes?

I'm not trying to attack your or anything, but I'm very tired of people (or even worse, devs using this excuse to not publish their games on GOG, at least be blunt that you don't want your game there, damn!) that always claim this crap.

My apologies if I sounded a bit vocal over this.

[quixoticaxis]

Originally posted by きょすけ:

As for the flash drive argument... are you for real? This is something that would have happened 10 or so years ago, but now? Why the need to go to your friend's home and get the game from him, when for most countries you'd be able to get the game eslewhere in a matter of 20 minutes?

Yeap, for real. There are lots of reasons that differ from psychological to economic, political, and philosophical for people to legally share games on a flash drive.

[きょすけ]

Originally posted by quixoticaxis:

Yeap, for real. There are lots of reasons that differ from psychological to economic, political, and philosophical for people to legally share games on a flash drive.

Definitely. I really hope that galaxy 2.0 will bring more games on the table for GOG (aka more devs inclined to bring their games on GOG, not about 2.0 funcionality).

[quixoticaxis]

Originally posted by きょすけ:

Originally posted by quixoticaxis:

Yeap, for real. There are lots of reasons that differ from psychological to economic, political, and philosophical for people to legally share games on a flash drive.

Definitely. I really hope that galaxy 2.0 will bring more games on the table for GOG (aka more devs inclined to bring their games on GOG, not about 2.0 funcionality).

Off-tpoic: I doubt it would happen. The attempt on aggregation of Galaxy 2.0, IMHO, will be under attack from all sides, 'cause no one in the business where every large enough publisher tries to secure their personal client base with artificial restrictions (lol, pretty much any business) loves aggregation services.

[きょすけ]

Originally posted by quixoticaxis:

Off-tpoic: I doubt it would happen. The attempt on aggregation of Galaxy 2.0, IMHO, will be under attack from all sides, 'cause no one in the business where every large enough publisher tries to secure their personal client base with artificial restrictions (lol, pretty much any business) loves aggregation services.

That's why I said that I hope so. But as long GOG gets more popular, at least this should (hopefully) get some games on the platform than now.

The only thing we can do is wait and look at the outcome.

[T-Bone Biggins]

Originally posted by quixoticaxis:

Originally posted by きょすけ:

Definitely. I really hope that galaxy 2.0 will bring more games on the table for GOG (aka more devs inclined to bring their games on GOG, not about 2.0 funcionality).

Off-tpoic: I doubt it would happen. The attempt on aggregation of Galaxy 2.0, IMHO, will be under attack from all sides, 'cause no one in the business where every large enough publisher tries to secure their personal client base with artificial restrictions (lol, pretty much any business) loves aggregation services.

Ever wonder why everyone in the games news industry is universally attacking Cyberpunk and CDPR? Because GOG is a threat to Epic Games and other scummy companies. Steam and GOG got along because they covered consumers with different needs, GOG does older and indie games with DRM-free installers as an emphasis and Steam pushes large amounts of units with reliably frequent sales. There are people like me who own lots of games on both platforms and I never feel like I'm choosing between them. Galaxy 2.0 might blur that distinction quite a bit by combining the best of both platforms.

Epic Games on the other hand has been burning it's Fortnite money trying to become the new Steam. GOG is a threat to them. Even UPlay is a threat to them since people hated Epic so much they bought The Division 2 on UPlay in droves to avoid Epic. Epic Games is a cancerous entity that will not stop their bad behavior even if they did beat Valve/Steam, which they won't. I personally think Steam and Galaxy 2.0 will get along fine since they will both only expand each others consumer base. It's the others that will fight Galaxy 2.0 with everything they have. I see lawsuits incoming due to all the connectivity with other services.