This feels kinda awful.

[Mason]

Game is "hard" in the worst way. Battles are a death sentence early but nearly unavoidable the first time, and saves are also a 50/50 death chance so im spending hours doing the same loop getting a tiny bit further each time. I wouldnt care if it was a mini game and not a coin flip but theres no skill here its just "oops tough luck go back to start". Also is "run" a joke skill cas i have yet to not get "lol loser you cant run now its the enemies turn cas you tried"

[Mason]

I dont mind hard games but this isnt hard its just tedious. Idk Im ttying really hard to have fun but enemies seeing me thru walls and random high level enemies appearing next to me essentially restarting the 30min loop is tiresome.

[Klampus]

Ignore that other person. This game is crazy and hard, but there is a method to all the madness, and once you figure that out game can be quite fun.

Battles ARE avoidable, and should be avoided (generally) to start. Make sure your character has the dash skill to start.

Saves are NOT 50/50 if you do it right. Think about the situation logically. There is a way to make sure you can save "safely." Do not try to abuse the crow-mauler save point.

The game is not nearly as random as you may think.

My advice is to start the game as the mercenerary (Cahara) with the dash, lock picking, and escape plan skills. Run around, avoid enemies and traps, and learn the game. Get more characters and figure out the general layout and puzzles in the dungeon

If you are really gung-ho on fighting, play as D'arce with dash and her defensive skills. You can learn combat relatively risk free this way.

Good luck!

[Mason]

How do i obtain/use dash if i dont start as merc? its not unfair but as the knight i cant outrun anything so its tedious and if i get seen its usually game over lol

[DANN3]

I'd probably go ahead and suggest watching a walkthrough of the game to experience it rather than going through the headache of playing it. What you complained about is present throughout your whole run if it's your first time playing and going in blind (no wikis, guides, etc). This game isn't made for everyone and that's fine, you can still enjoy the atmosphere and lore through a non-commentary playthrough, or whatever you prefer really.

[Klampus]

Again, I disagree.

Assuming you paid for and own this game, you may as well try to have fun with it without spoiling everything for yourself. I un-ironically enjoy it, even though it is quite brutal. Also, I am a complete degenerate (if my pfp wasn't a complete giveaway) so I fit in with the target audience I guess.

You can get dash with any character by getting to the dungeon as quickly as possible without packing anything. A bit counter-intuitive but there you go.

Just a warning, Enki (the mage) is SEVERELY gimped if you choose to start with the dash. I wouldn't recommend it. Ragnavaldr is probably the worst character, but also the most fun to use IMO.

[DANN3]

Originally posted by Klampus:

Again, I disagree.

Assuming you paid for and own this game, you may as well try to have fun with it without spoiling everything for yourself. I un-ironically enjoy it, even though it is quite brutal. Also, I am a complete degenerate (if my pfp wasn't a complete giveaway) so I fit in with the target audience I guess.

You can get dash with any character by getting to the dungeon as quickly as possible without packing anything. A bit counter-intuitive but there you go.

Just a warning, Enki (the mage) is SEVERELY gimped if you choose to start with the dash. I wouldn't recommend it. Ragnavaldr is probably the worst character, but also the most fun to use IMO.

Yea no, me and you both are one of those people that really enjoy the game for what it is despite its cruelty towards the player, I personally found great enjoyment out of knowing that I can lose a great deal of my progress through complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (most of which is on your first playthrough), but that's not for everyone.
The guy is complaining about something that is fundamentally part of Fear & Hunger, it's why I suggested alternative means to experiencing the game, because it isn't everyone's cup of tea. Agree to disagree I guess, this is just my personal opinion.

[Mason]

I did result to reading a little lore on the wiki which kinda helped. My issue was more so the complete lack of direction on top of it being very unforgiving. Just didnt know if anything i was doing was leading somewhere. Now that ik who a few characters are i might be able to pursue a goal rather than wandering around clicking on random ♥♥♥♥ lol

[PT.]

Agree. But if you play and know all loop hole and trick you can win over and over with worse luck.

[Ghost]

can anyone recomend a good LP to watch? or is it really one o those "you should experience it once, at least?
Yes i know is cheap. But that's no the point.
I was really interested in this game. I love hard games and all, but 'cause of work and stuff i dont have as much time for gaming as I would like and I already have a big backlog of games that i rather prefer playing than torturing myself with this game in my rest hours.
unless is not that bad and its actually a good time to learn the ways of the game, I rather watch it than playing it. 'Cause, so far, this game looks more like a "♥♥♥♥ you, get gud" meme-game, than anything.

[DANN3]

Originally posted by Ghost:

can anyone recomend a good LP to watch? or is it really one o those "you should experience it once, at least?
Yes i know is cheap. But that's no the point.
I was really interested in this game. I love hard games and all, but 'cause of work and stuff i dont have as much time for gaming as I would like and I already have a big backlog of games that i rather prefer playing than torturing myself with this game in my rest hours.
unless is not that bad and its actually a good time to learn the ways of the game, I rather watch it than playing it. 'Cause, so far, this game looks more like a "♥♥♥♥ you, get gud" meme-game, than anything.

It's definitely a rewarding feeling to at least beat the game once, if you get incredibly stuck on a segment and have no idea how to progress, you can use maps and guides. This game's difficulty really just comes from knowledge, once you know where to go for each ending it gets a LOT easier and prevents that incredibly tedious backtracking and wondering wtf you're meant to do. That could be half the fun however, depending on the type of person you are, getting lost and finding your way around could feel very fulfilling.

[Klampus]

Originally posted by Ghost:

can anyone recomend a good LP to watch? or is it really one o those "you should experience it once, at least?
Yes i know is cheap. But that's no the point.
I was really interested in this game. I love hard games and all, but 'cause of work and stuff i dont have as much time for gaming as I would like and I already have a big backlog of games that i rather prefer playing than torturing myself with this game in my rest hours.
unless is not that bad and its actually a good time to learn the ways of the game, I rather watch it than playing it. 'Cause, so far, this game looks more like a "♥♥♥♥ you, get gud" meme-game, than anything.

I recommend you don't watch any LPs. Don't like, don't comment, don't subscribe. Just enjoy the game on your own terms.

[lotlock]

If running isn't working for you, make sure you're actually using the "Run" skill in the skills menu. Do NOT back out of the combat menu and select run there. Apparently that version of running uses a default RPGmaker formula and, barring certain circumstances, is significantly worse than the Run skill. Failing a Run from the skill menu should be a somewhat rare occurrence. Generally, getting tips for the game kind of goes against the spirit of what the game *is*, but I think this difference is unintentional to begin with and it's feasible that a person might play the whole game and never realize the two Run options aren't equal.

[Evil The Cat]

Bro, I've been playing for an hour and early battles are *not* death sentences.

[OdinElGallardo]

Originally posted by lotlock:

If running isn't working for you, make sure you're actually using the "Run" skill in the skills menu. Do NOT back out of the combat menu and select run there. Apparently that version of running uses a default RPGmaker formula and, barring certain circumstances, is significantly worse than the Run skill. Failing a Run from the skill menu should be a somewhat rare occurrence. Generally, getting tips for the game kind of goes against the spirit of what the game *is*, but I think this difference is unintentional to begin with and it's feasible that a person might play the whole game and never realize the two Run options aren't equal.

Sorry, I´m one year later, but I want to explain something related with what you said.
Run skill is usually better than Run standard command, its enhanced by the skill escape plan to be almost guaranteed, but there is never a 100%, I think it goes from 90% to 95%, but the fount is not very trustful.
Run command is 50% chance to escape.
To run with 100% chance you need an agility more than 16 in your whole group, which is adquired by the special white angel soul (only one party member per soul, though), and using the Run command rather than the Run skill.

I hope it helps.