The new character and his helmet

[Tugagon]

This update added a character with a morion helmet. He's not usable yet, but I think this is the first piece of hard armour we've seen in the game. Has there been any info from the devs about how this might factor into gameplay?

[JZBai]

Not sure about whether the helmet will change anything regarding gameplay, but this new character is interesting since he seems to deviate from what was originally planned as teased in the artwork from older versions. There used to be two Turkish characters (one an Ottoman janissary and another guy with a turban) and Senor Morion seems to take the spot of the turban wearer. Honestly though, I think it's a good deviation IMO. The new character is probably a Spaniard, clearly uses a sidesword, and I'm hoping his style is Destreza which would be a really nice addition to the roster! :D

[Nortalf]

Originally posted by JZBai:

There used to be two Turkish characters (one an Ottoman janissary and another guy with a turban)

Not all pepole who wear turbans are Turkish.

[𝔗𝔢𝔞 ❀]

Was going to start this very topic. Will this piece of armour work? Can he take a longsword downward cut to the head?

[banana_lassi]

Originally posted by i-dot:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- helpmet must be inpenetrable - so it will crash the balance :(
- or if it's easiliy chopped like a paper - it is IDIOTIC!

The character will obviously be balanced around having a protected head. Why are you complaining about balancing about a character that we cant play yet? How about you wait and see how the helmet actually affects things instead of making useless speculation

It is not like a single helmet will protect you from the one hit kill system of this game very well. If you are selecting your moves intelligently, you would just never make an attack that his helmet would block.

[HTJA]

Also, this is and will be predominantly single-player game.

I would rather have interesting encounters than 'fair' and 'balanced' fights. Multiplayer, either local or Parsec, can have classes for different weapons, modes and so on to balance things out.

[玻]

I actually like this idea of usable armor in game, makes you invulnerable in certain parts of the character. Maybe we can have some vambraces or even a breastplate for certain “Boss”characters. But it could be just for cosmetics...

[𝔗𝔢𝔞 ❀]

Originally posted by bo:

I actually like this idea of usable armor in game, makes you invulnerable in certain parts of the character. Maybe we can have some vambraces or even a breastplate for certain “Boss”characters. But it could be just for cosmetics...

Same. A duelling rpg, Lace and Steel, really focused on it in their mechanics. Armour would mean your fatigue rose quicker, but functioned as damage reduction, and was pretty good. If damage goes to 4, armour blocking up to 3 is excellent. I say that because it was set during morion times, and taking a good helmet and risking the rest would not hit your fatigue too much, but could save your head.

I did wonder if armour is already in recently. Was playing Lasz, and took a cut to my leather boot of blood-red fashion and took about 16 damage. Of course killed the opponent since their attack did so little.

[HoJu Eructus]

I think the new character may be the Swedish reiter that was announced long ago, rather than a Spaniard. A morion doth not a Spaniard make, they were very widespread by the 17th century, and a Swedish soldier makes more snese in the game setting than a Spanish one. If a Spaniard were to be added, I'd make it more of a duelist character like Marie, with a cup-hilt rapier and sail dagger.

[i-dot]

the helmet or any armour does NOT fit the game!

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Originally posted by i-dot:

the helmet or any armour does NOT fit the game!

It fits the time period, and some armour was worn. Look to reiters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reiter

Could add a nice challenge if it allows them to take one lethal hit to the protected area, but balance will need to be also considered.

[i-dot]

I know that it was armour in that period
but against a cuirasassier in three quarters armour or against gendarme in full plate you have almost no chances with saber
I could also remember a winged hussar that have a kind of three quarters armour that a bit lighter than a cuirassier's armour

[𝔗𝔢𝔞 ❀]

Originally posted by i-dot:

I know that it was armour in that period
but against a cuirasassier in three quarters armour or against gendarme in full plate you have almost no chances with saber
I could also remember a winged hussar that have a kind of three quarters armour that a bit lighter than a cuirassier's armour

He doesn't have that though, he has a helmet. Would like to see jack of plate in the game for something special on another character:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_of_plate

[i-dot]

the armour always was worn to became MUCH TOUGH than the one without any armour
so a character with aromour will make all unarmored charactes useless

[𝔗𝔢𝔞 ❀]

Originally posted by i-dot:

the armour always was worn to became MUCH TOUGH than the one without any armour
so a character with aromour will make all unarmored charactes useless

It won't, especially given how good some moves of existing characters already are.

[i-dot]

IRL an armour was very expensive, so it used only because it gives valueable advantage in fight
it were as U are telling, nobody would spend money for useless armour