heyo Dovahkinn, glad you like it. No issues to be aware of!

@purplebleu, not directly, but you can use the Custom familiy home mod for that.
@ExtantAuto884, yes, that's intentional. Did you get the house after all?
@ulfsson1066, not directly, but you can use another mod for that such as "Spouses can live anywhere".

Hey Tom.
Love this mod! Thanks! I'm about to upgrade to Legend, (Dawngaurd, Hearthfire, Dragonborn), are there any issues to be aware of?

Does this mod support children?

All The People got Attack By Bandits So They Arnt Around What do I Do?

ulfssson1066 use the ,,
Custom Family Home" Mod.

Can i make my wife live there?
it wont let me.

Based on what you said, I went through my house mods and unloaded Oakwood (because I don't have Lakeside Hideaway), which is also nearby. That seems to have worked, though I also moved the load order near the top and that may have helped.

Purificator, it might be Lakeside Hideaway, if you´ve got that one installed. I remeber the two mods being incompatible and the hideaway is near the place you describe. Other than that, I´m afraid don´t know.

I get a consistent game crash trying to reach the place following your directions from the guardian stones. It happens just as the road angles downhill before the rubble. It's probably bad interaction with another mod, since I have a lot loaded, but I'd like to figure out how to make this mod work. Any suggestions?

ohh fk.. sorry dude:D nvm , i thought ur mod was crashing my game , but i got the problem:D will subscribe it again.. its fking amazing:D

Krtte, BOSS is telling you the truth, but it´s actually meant to be that way. I have drastically altered the terrain around the estate; it would take me less time to redo all the Navmeshes from scratch, rather than editing the existing Bethesda ones, so that's what I did and the reason BOSS is giving you the 'error'.

nicksailor123, yes, that is supposed to be the case.

danyellerose90, it's in the description.

NIce mod but seem to have pretty much deleted navmesh .. thats what my BOSS says.. could u fix em in next version ? or send me a link for a good tutorial to do it myself ?

when i found the house badits killed every one

I cannot find the place. Does anyone know where it is??

Really well done! I like all the nice little touches, like the access door to the fire under the hot tub. Glad I found this!

this looks like a good mod but i cant try it because the price of the house is too OP infact its nearly 100000 septims so i know what im gonna do for the next month...grind for gold

This is an amazing house! You normally have to pay for DLC like this!

I've added this to a collection, I thought you mioght like to know (as it's a compliment) as i know you don't get notifications on this. Thanks for the great mod ;)

mekrotchi, all you need is vanilla Skyrim.

is this compatible with vanilla Skyrim? or are DLCs required?

I've uploaded several pics to my profile and made it public but I don't know how to give you the pics or how to list you as a friend or how to PM whatever. Have never used facebook! Or how to look at anyone's profile. Any help would be appreciated

I know I saw the green borders across the path and the navmesh in that area looked good. But several followers (I tried with 3 different characters) got there and their pathing wouldn't follow.
When approaching the house from the mill all followers stop at the door lean idlemarker then step to the right just past front walkway and stop ( like waiting for 15-20 secs)
I even unloaded my mod shut down skyrim reactivated all loaded from a Anises house and reapproached Estate with the above results

Did you test with a Follower?

Yeah show me the pics please, because I remember thoroughly testing the navmesh when I created this mod.

Followers should not be affected by idle markers, not when they are following you around.

The green border you see in the creation kit are cell borders. Every cell in this game has its own navmesh. A green border indicates that the navmeshes of one cell are aligned with those of the other, and actors can walk from one cell over to the other. So if you´re not seeing a green border, that would indicate that NPCs cannot traverse between cells in that area.

I uploaded photos on public if your interested

Tom I just ran navmesh just on your mod. the area where my followers kept getting stuck is on a green navmesh border both on the walkway and the the side path.

Also your idlemarkers for your npc workers seem to effect my followers such that they pause there and wait and stay there if i'm not close by until their Patrol time ends.( would followers be effected by idlemarkers?)

I ran a Nav movement test and got errors moving from behind house to front of house and from side path to front of house but not always. If crossing thru two navmesh areas seemed to create the problem. My low end system may be the cause?!

Initially I'd had both mods loaded which seems to have doubled some navmeshs in the tub for example. but I didn't touch any other navmeshs.

Oh yeah The grass every time I've loaded Your mod into CK and go to the tub area all the grass from the original terrain in there in it's original places. By toggling grass with 8 I turn it off. But it probably still needs to be realigned to your terrain or deleted. Good luck with that.

Oh yeah as well with a couple of my followers they wouldn't go past the front of the mansion or half way up the far path. evetually I got her there by getting her over the mountains.

The walkway in front of the mansion had your npc and my follower fall thru to ground below. I "tcl"ed them out and then reverted back and everything ok But I Do get navmesh errors listed
.
There's the Green border that ends at the start of the Tub. Is that Navmesh area border?

With Ingredients containers (bowls, baskets jars etc) that you painstakingly place and put ingredients inside / on top of could be labelled unuseable or pasted into postion so that they are NOT picked up bumped as we move through the home or have to try to get ingredients out of bowls on 3rd shelf where only a silver is sighted.

Yep the Seats work very well I,d send you a picture if I knew how to do that.
I also consoled in a heathfires bard to give a party atmosphere.
I also went overboard and had a large party consoled in which was abruptly ended when their
7am programming zipped them out of there. But did they run around in their underwear in whiterun? ;-) We'll never know

Yeah I found Sit Anywhere simple works reasonably although often your sitting half in the rock. Amazing all the different ideas around to be able to live a fantastical or normal life in this game.

Hey Eternie, I´m not sure what you mean with the containers? Glad you got the seats working, is it up to your taste now? ;-)

The SitLedgeMarkers cannot be used by the player, I think. Some of the Bluecreek NPC's do use them. If I recall correctly, there is a mod which does allow the player to sit on ledges and so on, I believe it was called Sit Anywhere or something but you'll have to do a search for that.

What do you mean when you say you have to toggle the grass?

Anyway, glad you are liking the mod!

I noticed you have several places that are marked as Sit ledges at the end of the walkway and perched on several viewing rocks. Some npcs ( like serana ) can use them.
Does the player need a special mod to use them?

Oh and the Hot Tub seating change only worked whist I had your mod loaded and edited out your seats on each loading. I had alot of fun trying I eventually had 4 Ruins seats possibly seating 12 people or at least 12 postions for better screenshots.

When I loaded only my hot tub mod (made from loading yours mod with both skyrim + update.esm's); the result was comical as I was sitting on my seats in the postion where tub would have been, whereas Serana was sitting on a rock on the original surface 50ft above.

Which showed how much you changed the shape of the terrain around Blue Creek. Oh yes I needed to toggle the origial grass off each time. I guess that's where interiors can be easier.

Tom thanks for your guidance. I did load it into CK and just added 2 more of our seats to have 4 seating positions, But didn't unsubscribe to your mod yet. Which as I tested it gave a large curved sitting area with several seats right next to each other. Yep there are a multitude of a uprights from the noble seats so I'll have to try one of the others.

Amazing how a little thing can give so much pleasure! -:)
What a happy little Vegemite!

So how long have you been modding? Sounds like it's 2nd nature with just a minute to navmesh. For me something that I would feel like changing in alot of mods is useless clutter. Yes it adds to the look but usefullness is doubtful. like ingedient containers baskets , bowls etc can they be made to be unselectable, so that the ingredients are picked up but not the containers themselves.
Is that in the container properties?

Thanks. Not sure if it´s general practice, I don´t think so really, but I would sometimes do it if I didn´t like one particular aspect of an otherwise cool mod. Why not? You're using it for yourself. If you put new seats in pretty much the same spot you probably won't have to edit the navmesh. If you move them to the other side of the tub, for instance, then yes, I would edit the navmesh. That too is not more than a minute of work.

your attention to detail is great To have a boiler room under the Tub! and the Steam rising from the hot water!!
It's a pity there isn't a quest to fire up the Boilers. Even if its just to arrange delivery of timber
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Is adapting peoples mods general practice? I know in CK it's exceptionally easy to select several items by mistake and move unintended walls etc
Would new seats also need to be navmashed to be used?

Eternie, when you load up the default Skyrim.esm and update.esm you will get a bunch of errors Bethesda didn´t fix. This is standard and doesn´t seem to be a problem. Yes you can load my mod in the CK and just replace the seats, sure. If you do that you might want to give the .esp a different name and unsubscribe from this page so that the Skyrim launcher won´t reinstall my version again when you start the game.

Regarding the dialogue, it´s not too hard to do, but to say something unique does require new voices, and so, voice actors. As this is a solo project of mine that´s not really an option.

Thanks for the compliments anyway!

Thanks for the response!
I have played with the CK and I somehow kept on getting animation errors.

So your suggesting that we can load your mod in the CK and change it. Or is it to do a Seat mod as an add on to your mod. So firing up skyrim.esp + your Mod and then replacing the seats with something else?!

Is that Okay to do?

So that can only work if I make an addon Mod to yours?!

I LOVE your Mod, Tub especially with the undressing feature.

Having Serana as follower is great as she has alot more activities she can do. She will Mine (although not for Player) use any workstation, pray, get bored just go and sit down.

What I miss most in skyrim is random dialogue with followers, which I loved most in Dragon Age I or Mass Effect where several followers would discuss topics with each other, depending on who was there. Which made it more involving. Dialogue programming must be the hardest level to do and record I guess, even what to say?

@Eternie: unfortunately it's not exactly possible to scale furniture. I put the current benches in because I thought they looked best for the tub, and I've tried a couple of setups. Also, there's no curved bench around in Skyrim and since I can't create my own meshes I'm afraid it's not going to happen. If you do want to replace one of the benches in the tub, I'd recommend you do it yourself. It's actually very easy; you just need the Creation kit and watch one or two tutorials to get a feel for the programme!

I'm wondering what the Dark Elf said to you, because I've set him up to ride his horse to the Skyrim border and then dissapear, all after he's sold you the contract ;-)

@d.j.whitaker: If you have pressed the green subscribe button, then you'll need to start the Skyrim launcher and give the thing a couple of minuts to download the actual file. If you click play right away the mod will not have been downloaded.

WHY is the house not there i dont get it?

Thanks for this Mod, very well made!
The Hot Tub is a Delight after some serious battle to come home and just relax with my wife Ahhhhhh ... very soothing.

The two benches to sit on work like single seats though, is it possible to make them bigger, or longer so that we can sit next to each other.... Or possibly just 1 longer curved bench seat with several seating positions. So that I can have friends over for a fun Night!!!

The house is very good too and I did take a while to find some of hidden doors.
I do miss having some dialogue with all my workers though (apart from Follow me)

The dude we buy the house from says he's going to the home, I saved him from an attack by bandits (random encounter I think ) but then he disappeared...

Did I miss something or is he supposed to be at the estate?

thanks

yo 0057,

1) I´m presuming you´re using some graphic mods which makes it too dark in the interiors. You can download the vanilla lighting version from the Nexus, which sets the interior lighting settings to equal vanilla game houses and mines: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/22496/?tab=2&navtag=%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D22496&pUp=1.

2) The clutter is a design choice, to make the place feel somewhat lived in.

5) There's quite a couple of other mannequins, but they're spread around the estate. You can find 2 in the main house, 2 in the basement, and another 2 in the vault.

Cheers

Thank you Tom,

talking about negatives:

1. give more light, it is dark inside.
2. the mine - too dark, too many corridors
3. estate: too many tables, chairs in the way.
4. too many small dead ends inside estate (useless space)

briefly: estate and mine: dark labirynth.

and most important:

5. only 2 manequinnes? and both hidden in the dark? please ...

apart form this very good mod.

okay thanks for the answer. Good to know :)

lassennathan, I´ve covered that before, I have deleted the Bethesda navmeshes in the area and redid them from scratch because just editing them would take more time than starting all over. So there´s nothing to worry about, the CK likes to whine about them for some reason.

Ill fav. this but theres some things u might want to change to make this work smoothly...Otherwise it looks like a great mod and hope u work on more

Warning: This file contains 18 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.

where is the mod to move your wife at

been to Dead Mans Drink georgeah?

The estate was taken over by bandits before I got there, guards dead,no salesman, no key,What Now?

I didn't find out what's causing it but I finished the quest for the black star by taking a different route so I really don't need to be near that lake anymore.

It could be my shaders but it's just near the lake but I have lots of mods so maybe I will get rid of most of them and if it still crashes then it's just a bug,I mostly think some mod is causing me the crashes.

@Knight of Darkness; if you have uninstalled this mod then this mod doesn't affect your game anymore whatsoever. Are you running other mods?

I don't know why but the area where the house is crashes everytime I say area because I unistalled and deleted this mod and it still crashes at the same spot I have a powerful computer too I have no idea why it's crashing for me?