Just needs the progression of Vampiric Drain and Vampire's Servant switched around, then this would be perfect! :) I like Seduction at stage 2 to help get back to stage one, and i like Embrace of Shadows as a defence power when your strength is weakest.

what about becoming a vampire lord before even getting bite by a regular vampire for the stages to take effect? do u still catch fire in the sun? i know dumb last question lol

@skotie2007 (if you want to skip a ton of lore look at the last sentence). Because werewolves were created by Hircine who wanted them to be his perfect army and most of them didn't become his soldiers. Sad things is though, he really meant in death. When you die you go to the Hunting Grounds instead of Sovngarde (hope I spelled that write). It's a lore side effect in other words.

Question, why do werewolfs seem to have zero side effects (no resting bonus OMG no! lulz!) while vampires seemed to be plagued with them? Weaker in sunlight, constant need to fed (unless you want a mob to kill you), powers( that suck to begin with) that disappear upon feeding, weakness to fire.

the reason you get more powerful and weaker at the same time as vampire is because the lack of mortal blood brings out the blood of the vampire. by nature vampires are weak to the sun and overall become stronger.

@Dyrisk
The mod is not suposed to change the stages that you get your powers at (as of now at least). Perhaps you should read the description before you post something in the comments section. Besides, I think Vampire's Suduction should reamain a higher stage power anyways as it gives you the oportunity to feed and lower your stage.

This mod doesn't seem to be working. I still lose the Vampire's Seduction power when I feed and get it back after not feeding.

Does feeding bump you up all the way to level 1 or just up 1 level?

zombies dont eat brains they eat flesh.

@H2n4 Flu

And zombies, as you allready know, do not NEED brains, but they still crave it...

However, every fictional universe has a different perspective of commonly known mythological creatures/fictional creatures...

REAL mythology ice giants are not genetically mutated frost trolls... as they appear to be in the dawnguard expansion.

Wikipedia is not where you should be reading.

@H2n4 Flu

Wikipedia... Did that mention anything about sparkling vampires, if i may ask? And immortality is completely different from Invincibility, any immortal creature can be slain, deadric princes are JUST like that, with a slightly different case of course, the definition of Immortality is, as i probably allready said, Not dying from hunger/thirst, diseases or poisons, or aging...

Vampires are corpses, they do noty need food, neither can they die from poisons or diseases... unless they are magically enhanced of course, and corpses do not age either. Being a a walking corpse, or, undead, is just another form of immortality, end of story.

I see what you did, though gazzmilsom makes a good point, too. I'm just glad I have an informed choice.

This isn't how vampires work in TES lore. They feed to reduce the effect of sanguinare vampiris. Its how they treat their disease. So If left untreated the symptoms of sanguinare vampiris get worse, so the player gets all the good things and all the bad things like the sun burning you. If you treat your symptoms you have less strengths but also less weaknesses and people talk to you.

This creates in game balance and it makes sense. This mod lets the player have full vampire powers when they also have the minimum weaknesses. And also feeding lets you appear normal very important for not being attacked on sight.

It pretty simple really. Dont feed, sanguinare vampiris gets worse you reap its benefits but also its weaknesses. Feed and sanguinare vampiris is repressed you have less powers but also fewer weaknesses. Its an illness in TES. Like how the dwemer/dwarves are the same height as a dunmer and all dead, not all fantasy worlds have to be the same.

Nice Mod - The "correct" way Vampires should be. Although maybe in future versions you could also include Vampire Powers & Spells (Vampiric Drain/Seduction) in 'reverse'. It would also be great to make a version doesn't have the extra 'benefits' (+Destro/Resist Dmg) you've included naming the Mod 'Pure Vampire Reverse' or something along those lines. Anyway, thanks for your efforts.

i quote the first line: "Dawnguard is required for this mod"

do you need dawngaurd

Ah, earlier the "in sunlight" bit wasnt there. Makes perfect sense now. Subscribing :)

You realize, of course, that Nern exists in a separate universe from our own, and thus vampirism may work very differently in that different universe. Also, there are many different clans of vampires in TES, and the rules governing each clan is different. You can't make some compatible with mythos outside TES Lore and expect it to remain TES Lore-friendly, yeah?

you forgot the abilities of the vampires.

I don't see it in my active effects, and its not listed as an effect on the wiki.

@godzilla90fan
The heath, stamina and magica redux was always there, mod or no mod.

@Shinjou
Here is the first sentance of the Wikipedia entry for vampires:
"Vampires are mythological or folkloric beings who subsist by feeding on the life essence (generally in the form of blood) of living creatures, regardless of whether they are undead or a living person/being." Not that they drink blood for the fun of it, but that it's REQUIRED FOR THEM TO SURVIVE.
Also, zombies are corpses, and they can die. Also also, you can KILL VAMPIRES IN THE GAME. Thus, vampires are not entirely immortal, and undead are not immortal either.

Only thing that bothers me is the reduced health stamina and magicka at stage one. Is that a typo? If not what is the reason for this? Also, can you buff physical damage also? I always imagined vampires being super strong, they are in every movie I ever saw lol. Love this though

Also, i think there is a bug with the expansion allready, it says when you are fully starved that you are supposed to be shunned and feared... though NPCs do nothing but comment my skin colour... >_>

We're talking about bethesda lore here, all vampires in all stgories are different in some way, shape or form.

Vampire are immortal, not because they drink blood, but because they are walking fucking corpses...

In this case, trueblood vampires can transform into their true form.
They are just as much a corpse as they were before transformation, Corpses dont NEED food, though the price of undeath is constantly craving it. Vampires become more "alive" when drinking blood, allowing them to easier walk in sunlight, and blend in with mortal societies.

Vampires dont drink blood to sustain themselves, they drink blood because their instincts wont shut up about it. Only the most disciplined vampire can go centuries or even eternities without drinking blood, or going nuts... though eventually one slips, and dies one way or another. You gain boons for drinking blood, and also for NOT drinking blood. Ask molag bal about the vampire curse if you wanna know more :P

i agree with H2n4 Flu, any being, even magical needs to feed if it wants to survive. vampires are noexception. aven if your explaination, shinjou, makes sens with bethesda's phylosophie.

@Shinjou
the tiger thing makes sense, in theory. But a hungry tiger won't survive as long in a blizzard as a well-fed one will. A well-fed tiger has a better chance of surviving being hit by a truck than a starving one. Anything well fed will have better defenses than a starving creature,.

Originally, vampires had their frost resistance buffed as they starved. Almost all vampire-related attributes were for defense purposes only. Insticts and all that starving tiger crap will to protect you if a goddamned glacier is flying at you.

And, according to lore, vampires are only immortal if they constantly drink blood. So there's that.

"In what universe does ANYTHING get stronger by starving itself?"

Vampires are Immortal, and also beasts in a sense, when a tiger is starved, its instincts get stronger in order to ensure the survival of the tiger.

Vampires, are not much different the only difference is that being immortal, they cannot die, hence explainignw hy they just continue getting wilder, hungrier and more desperate for food.

People need to learn to think objectively about fictional things, especially when it comes to LORE.

So to answer your question, most universes allow one to get stronger from being... hungry, to say it mildly, allthough starving for too long will obviously kill you... thats not the case with vampires though...

Like the idea of this mod and it's definitly subscribed, though I see the 10% damage resistance to everything as somehow unnecessary, but that is just my opinion :)

XD ok, sorry for the misunderstanding. good mod by the way

Good mod mate :) ! * Thumbs up *

@Lorkhan
No, you just opened the page while i was writing the descripiton. Happens all the time.

ah, i had a lading problem with my internet connection, sorry about that =s

@Lorkhan
It does what the description says it does.

what does this actually do??????