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Draxar May 15 @ 6:32am 
Bug? By using the tractor beam at start, I was able to put some blue gel near the plate of faith and complete the puzzle without using the laser beam at all (nor the second cube).
GodFather Mar 10, 2014 @ 7:21am 
Great map! Thanks!
Mathey2009  [author] Aug 20, 2013 @ 10:28pm 
Wow thanks, but it seems you have not played Mevious maps, they are all amazing and miles ahead of any of my maps. But thanks for the compliment.
atilamester Aug 20, 2013 @ 6:28am 
i was thinking about this map for 3 days when i could complete it. The best map i have ever played.
Ale Dec 12, 2012 @ 2:11pm 
The techniques used are INNOVATIVE. Great dynamics, well design.
Der HammerMeister Dec 12, 2012 @ 4:21am 
Finally solved it. The techniques used are OBSCURE, and the sloppy design doesn't help (I gave this one a thumbs down because of that).
ken.roberts Dec 6, 2012 @ 3:08pm 
What a bummer the Video is gone.
I went to your link at https://www.dropbox.com/s/q08ylqgfc0fknlx/logic.rar
and no file exists there.
Mathey2009  [author] Nov 22, 2012 @ 4:50pm 
Thanks man....between Cubelessness 2 and Logic, I think they are my best maps.
SKIR! | JESUS Nov 21, 2012 @ 5:17pm 
great map. the best I've played from you
Mathey2009  [author] Nov 4, 2012 @ 2:07pm 
Thanks a lot....glad u enjoyed the map.
sembiox Nov 4, 2012 @ 1:21pm 
Finally :) That was a real challenge. Thanks.
Mathey2009  [author] Oct 18, 2012 @ 11:04am 
Map Updated
Never mind, just figured what u meant....ok now it is not posible to do that again.
Try doing it the intedned way....idf u havent already I mean...
Mathey2009  [author] Oct 18, 2012 @ 10:44am 
what do u mean jump on the glass?how do u jump on the glass
toncica Oct 18, 2012 @ 10:40am 
Jump on the glass. From there you can portal to the blue gel. Then infinite loop of gel and shoot it to the stairs. Now you can jump to the faith plate.
Mathey2009  [author] Oct 18, 2012 @ 10:34am 
toncica Oct 18, 2012 @ 10:28am 
Still possible to bypass the laser with blue gel.
Mathey2009  [author] Oct 13, 2012 @ 11:37am 

Before u put post comment there is a link right next to the Post Comment button that helps with that...
kings Oct 13, 2012 @ 11:25am 
I looked through the comments, and I what I did was the same that DarkSic did. BTW, how do you write spoilers?
Mathey2009  [author] Oct 13, 2012 @ 9:54am 
Post the solution here with a video and i'll tell u if u like...
kings Oct 13, 2012 @ 2:00am 
I solved, but I'm sure it was not the intended solution. Still wandering what the actual soln is.
𝗖𝗼𝗹𝘂𝗺𝗯𝘂𝘀 Sep 30, 2012 @ 3:56am 
thanks, i loved it. this is one of the hardest big-maps (more than one puzzle) i've ever played, it's a work of pure genius.
also, if you can tell me how to type capital letters i would be ever so grateful. :) lol jk
Mathey2009  [author] Sep 29, 2012 @ 11:09pm 
U did everything exactly as intended.....very good work man....the laser puzzle is the hardest one of the map and u did it exactly as it should be....kudos!
Hope u liked it.
𝗖𝗼𝗹𝘂𝗺𝗯𝘂𝘀 Sep 29, 2012 @ 5:03pm 
pure genius, man. was i right in solving the laser part by putting a floor portal (say orange) on the small side of the fizzlers, another floor portal (blue) in the laser-part's main room, getting a new cube, oscillating it between the portals and shooting blue in the fenced-off room with the laser button to make the cube fall on the button? and then putting blue on the wall opposite the laser receiver, going through, and putting orange opposite the laser emitter to activate the stairs? Oh, and the faith plate/flipper/bouncer/WHATEVER only works if you walk on the front part of it (i.e. just walking up the stairs and getting hit backwards). For some reason I kept on walking around it and getting flipped into a wall and dying. Heh... I though I was doing something wrong... thank god for quick-save!
Mathey2009  [author] Sep 28, 2012 @ 8:24am 
Ok, now the map has been fixed with that minor exploit (dude the shot was almost impossible so do, u have to zoom and shoot many many many times to get the portal on the blue gel dropper).....anyways, try to beat it now.
grim_on_mbient Sep 28, 2012 @ 8:00am 
I shoot a portal from the gridplatform to the blue gel generator and next to the jumper. The gel hit the glas and ground. I jumped from there on the jumper.
Mathey2009  [author] Sep 26, 2012 @ 8:01pm 
No it was not a distractor.....how else did u solve it?
Glad u liked it.
grim_on_mbient Sep 26, 2012 @ 1:30pm 
Another one that kept me busy for days! Took me around 5 hours to get it....
Was the laser part just to distract?

Really great puzzles that are coming from you. I still have to solve Cubelessness 2. Well, I'll drop a line in a few days once I solved it.
Mathey2009  [author] Sep 20, 2012 @ 11:09pm 
I put all of that from my ideas....dont know what u mean about mevious maps....didnt take it from there....and gig maps....i think i played one of his maps and didnt like his style at all...thanks for the constructive feedback anyways man....cheers
Galbaldy Sep 20, 2012 @ 6:03pm 
Totally derivative. The laser part was taken from Gig's Outside The Box. The part with the funnel is from Mevious' maps. The only original part was the Cube Gel bounce part, and I'm not even sure about that. Did you actually figure it out on your own or did you take it from somewhere else?
Mathey2009  [author] Sep 13, 2012 @ 6:07am 
I actually know u can do that....but i thought i prevented to do the player from doing it with the glass panel i put in front of the goo pit...obviously if it is as tricky as it is to get the blue gel there....its not intended...
Darko Sep 12, 2012 @ 9:40pm 
This is a great one too! though I have yet to solve it in the normal way, I could completely skip the laser part by:

Putting the 2nd cube on the button that disables the fizzlers to the laser generator room, zooming to where the blue gel falls, making a portal there (that's a tricky part), go to the laser generator room, make the 2nd portal to the left, paint with blue gel, running and bouncing thanks to the blue gel to get to the aerial faith plate.

Now I'll go break my head to solve this in the intended way =)
Mathey2009  [author] Sep 7, 2012 @ 6:39am 
@esmo: thank you very much!
esmo Sep 6, 2012 @ 8:23pm 
solid medium difficulty, hard if you haven't seen these puzzle mechanics before. cheers
Mathey2009  [author] Aug 19, 2012 @ 1:57pm 

The maps has only 43 ratings...but it has a 93% thumbs up....so with that I stary calm that the problem in ratings is that most people do not finish it becuase they can't beat them...but the ones that do...most give it a thumbs up....
Thanks anyways
mood3rd Aug 19, 2012 @ 1:50pm 
good map.
I could not do laser part.
it eluded me, I recently got stuck on someones map, which turned out according to the auther to be brocken (no solution). so I looked at your comments & discovered the solution to the laser part. me fail. did the rest, but a lot of people don't know about crouching from faithplate, to travel further. they might not figure to take cube off button with tractor beam(I thought I could not put a portal anywhere in that chamber for a while, after trying to fire a portal there & missing the only area I could place one. went back to it after exausting any other potential solutions ) or to bounce the first cube towards us. so while a good/very cleaver map. your ratings may suffer.
thumbs up to you.
fail for me.
Mathey2009  [author] Aug 6, 2012 @ 8:13pm 
Thank you very mucho for the feedback and all the apreciation!
machmanx Aug 6, 2012 @ 7:41pm 
*sigh* After watching the video I cannot believe how close I was to solving this thing! In the first part I did everything right...just forgot to activate the switch that toggles lasers. The second part all I was missing was the teeter-totter effect of putting two portals on the floor. In this case you'd do that to the cube so it spends like a second on the other side and switch the portal to make the cube fall on the switch!

This is a map that truly deserves appreciation! I've never been this frustrated by any map, yet the solutions are so simple. Awesome job, Mathey! :D

This is a map that I would assign to a group called "Advanced basics" or something. For all of you who aren't rating this or giving a bad rating, watch the video and you will be surprised at how simple it is.
Mathey2009  [author] Aug 5, 2012 @ 3:15pm 
machmanx Aug 3, 2012 @ 9:24pm 
Wow, playing this map has made me realize that I'm not the smartest of the crop. Hard to admit, but I can't do this. I gave up in frustration as I don't know how to get to the other side. :(
Mathey2009  [author] Jul 26, 2012 @ 10:11am 
@Sleter: Thank you very much!
I have already played it....very very good map!
Sleter Jul 26, 2012 @ 7:27am 
Remarkable test. Congratulations!
Interesting funny and well thought out.
Thank you!
I invite you to try my "Logic Gravitational" :

Mathey2009  [author] Jul 25, 2012 @ 4:54pm 
@smaccona: I like to think that, yes.
Thanks you for playing!
smaccona Jul 25, 2012 @ 12:43pm 
Excellent map! Pity your maps are not easier to see in the ratings - maybe because many people get frustrated and don't finish?
AkAttack99 Jul 17, 2012 @ 7:32am 
Very good map. Nice puzzle work! I would say 7/10 for difficulty, but 9.5/10 for fun!

Enjoyed this map, feels like a test chamber from Portals 2 SP.
Mathey2009  [author] Jul 16, 2012 @ 10:39am 
Thanks you very much!
SoliX Jul 16, 2012 @ 7:58am 
Wow what a cool map ! loved the cube trick at the end. Very challenging, but not as nice as Cubelessness, wich is imo a masterpiece. I wonder how you did that T-flip-flop ^^
I also make hard maps but in 3x3x3 box, you can try one here : http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=80658571&searchtext=3x3x3
Mathey2009  [author] Jul 15, 2012 @ 11:03am 
@Bober RS: thanx man, this is too my favorite map (of my maps).
Took a lot of thinking and hard work to finish, specially to remove exploits (many fixes).
Bober RS Jul 15, 2012 @ 5:54am 
As for me it's one of the best, hardest and my favourite tests ever!
Mathey2009  [author] Jul 13, 2012 @ 10:04pm 
@Ravenmorke: thanx!
Ravenmorke Jul 13, 2012 @ 9:55pm 
Wow, really an hard test! I like this map, it take me at least 45 min! Nice job! ;)