Quest: And the Realms of Daedra
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vice11191 Apr 17 @ 12:38am 
why did you choose perite and hircine they dont even heve there own planet
vice11191 Apr 13 @ 12:36pm 
are the daedra who have his soul molag of coldharbour mehrunes of deadlands and heamious of arphroychica
Legend Apr 11 @ 2:51am 
Huntsman's* Alter.
Curse my lack of proof-reading.
Hunstman's was difficult, even at level 15 and with 5 Followers.
Legend Apr 11 @ 2:50am 
Drake5959: It's called Ornarol's Fate.
This mod was awesome, just like all you other ones (doesn't top Sorcery, however)
Taskmaster's was difficult, even at level 15 and with 5 followers lol. Those hunters were hard, and those Werewolves were hidden to me hehe.
Though Uthgerd the Unbroken got trapped within the Taskmaster's Realm after I gathered Ornarol's Willpower, can you fix that?
Alternatively, you can order your followers to wait before you touch the Spine, though that makes it more difficult due to the swarms.

Also a great place for Daedra Hearts, got 15 from the Diseased Ones alone :D
drake5959 Apr 7 @ 4:56pm 
what is the name of the book
JeremyTheCreeper Apr 7 @ 4:13pm 
where is the book to start the quest
Crimson13 Apr 7 @ 12:30am 
I'm also curious as to how much the perks given increase their respective fields. ThirteenOranges does some great work but telling what your bonuses are shouldn't be vague. Some of us want to know how much Magic Resistance in total we have, haha.
TemerLaGargola Mar 25 @ 1:30pm 
Interstingly enough, I found the book as random loot on a dead Vigilant of Stendarr. I loved the Sea of Ghosts addition (despite my frustration towards the etched amulet), and I can't wait to start this one!
Netherun Mar 5 @ 4:55am 
On another note. Could someone detail what exactly the three perks change?
- I think the strength "perk" gives +20 carrying capacity, right?
- What does the guile "perk" exactly do? Tried to look up my speech skill, but didn't see any change there... How much is barter prices improved?
- The willpower "perk" adds magic resistance... but how much?
Netherun Mar 5 @ 4:20am 
@runarjonas: I kept bumping into the book to start this quest. One guaranteed place that is mentioned is the Bard's College in Solitude, just browse through all the books there. If you really can't find the book anywhere at all, maybe the mod hasn't been installed?
Don't know how book placement has been scripted, but I found three copies of this book in the basement of Seastone Manor. There did appear to be a general (over) abundance of copies of this 'Ornarol's Fate'. I guess it is popular reading in Skyrim =P
runarjonas Feb 28 @ 3:53pm 
i know where im gonna start but the book is not there
Home Feb 21 @ 10:45am 
you should try and make a greek style mod that takes you to a different world, by that i mean get away from the same old skyrim(the world i forgot how to spell it) it should be by a temple or dwarven ruins that have a mech/magic teleporter that takes you directly to ancient greece where there would be troy(would be the imperials in this case) and the spartians( stormcloaks) and then athens would still have the olympics, but it the kind of people that dont usually fight. if you take this under consideration email me at
G20 Feb 19 @ 6:56am 
Hi, Love the this mod and have added it to this collection.
I hope you like it and take it as a high compliment ;)
Ace Ventura Feb 4 @ 3:08pm 
where do u strart it
GrumpyGrizzley907 Jan 26 @ 11:25pm 
@ Stellion: I have almost completed everything in DB: (only 1 side quest left). I had absolutely no problems with this mod. very nicely made and lots of fun.
GEF:Killer(GER) Jan 19 @ 10:21am 
where i can find the Quest ?
Людовик XI Jan 16 @ 9:01am 
dont forget this
Людовик XI Jan 16 @ 9:01am 
morthal pain
Stellion Jan 12 @ 6:29pm 
Just one question.. does this work with Dragonborn? The second paragraph threw me off.
Cyborg Jan 4 @ 12:36pm 
they should hire you if your not already working with them
Mr.Cuddlesworth Dec 31, 2013 @ 11:35am 
I have a suggestion, I would very much like to see a LOTR quest mod i think it would get good downloads and supscription.
Narwall99 Dec 13, 2013 @ 10:20am 
does it work
spartan5of9 Dec 6, 2013 @ 4:07pm 
amazing, and greatly defined as well
aminoAsinine Nov 30, 2013 @ 5:35pm 
You did a better job with Apocrypha than bethesda did, it definitely feels more consistent with lore than Dragonborn's oceans of tentacles. I don't really think you need to change anything to fit the DLC, it's perfect as it is.
MasterKontrol Nov 30, 2013 @ 2:50am 
lol. Ornarols **GUILE** @ below ..... Oh and also I had only done the TaskMaster Shrine previous to it.... in case that is essential in fixing (if necessary)
MasterKontrol Nov 30, 2013 @ 2:47am 
Hey mate, great mod.... one bug I have found just a few minutes ago, In the Apocrypha if i try and take all the books with me when i leave, i get fail to teleport out of Apocrypha, it begins to, the sound and effect all go, then i see the load screen for one second, then i am still standing in front of Ornarols Guild (Item) and i go nowhere, first i tried a total restart of game, no joy, so i kinda just got to "Well it's the Apocrypha after all.. can't be stealing them books" so I dumped them all in a bookshelf next to the Guile Artifact and hit it.... no worries, loaded straight back out to the Shrine... Just thought i'd let you know ;) great quest works you do, Peace
Ballyhoo Nov 27, 2013 @ 3:34pm 
As Bowser says Excellent mod to bad we cant travel back to each realm I always enjoy Hircine's realm in addition to what Bowser reccomends for Apocrypha You could have the PC ( who may or may NOT be harbinger of the companions) meet up with Skor in his afterlife.....How you handle that is up to you.
bowser1226 Nov 22, 2013 @ 9:25pm 
Excellent mod! For the record of anyone about to get this mod I highly recommend unlocking the book shelves in the Apocrypha. Even though they contained "unnamed volumes" reading them gives experience in different skill sets. Suprisingly videos on this quest never mentioned it (at least of the ones I've seen). If you are thinking of downloading it do so because it is time well spent.
Sillylaureate Nov 17, 2013 @ 6:51pm 
I found the Huntsman's Shrine before I started the quest, I spent an hour looking for it on UESP.
jeskyle™ Nov 10, 2013 @ 9:08am 
where is the hiden wepeon i really want it please?
$$MIXMASTER$$ Nov 3, 2013 @ 4:17pm 
do you need db to run this
Whateva2569 Oct 15, 2013 @ 1:38pm 

Does anyone know or know where to find out the % of MR the perk ability you can acquire grants?
Gex Oct 9, 2013 @ 12:55pm 
@zachattack190 Why do you say that this came out before the Dragonborn DLC was even announced
daedric273 Sep 27, 2013 @ 9:23am 
soooo ummm..... it took me like 5 mins to complete this quest that really it? nothing else? cuz with all the talk i was getting ready for some epic questing...i think it took me longer to read the book then doign the quest itself
Dozer208 Sep 15, 2013 @ 4:21am 

....Read the description....
Phoenix Sep 9, 2013 @ 7:42pm 
The mod looks great!
So.... how do I bloody start it XD
zachattack190 Sep 8, 2013 @ 7:29pm 
I guess it requires dragonborn DLC.... -_-
Apotheosized Sep 7, 2013 @ 11:41am 
Is there any prize or artifact or something you get for retrieving his soul?
King Japhar Aug 21, 2013 @ 4:06pm 
I removed this mod and it st still happens. So I think you are correct. I do have a boat load of mods. I can't be sure where it's coming from. Either way, thanks for responding and I do love all the quests you made. The Sorcery one seems cool but the yellow ring isn't working so I held off on that until I stop being lazy and look into trying to fix it. Thanks again.
ThirteenOranges  [author] Aug 21, 2013 @ 1:16am 
@King Japhar: None whatsoever I'm afraid. This mod doesnt touch anything related to cameras or killmoves. I'd look at killmove changing mods you may be using.
King Japhar Aug 20, 2013 @ 5:22pm 
I don't know if you'll read this, however, since I completed this quest, every so often the camera zooms in like I'm doing a scripted kill. So the camera focuses in and the sides are all blurry. It goes away after a short time but it's annoying as hell. So for now, I'm going to try and removed it and hope I'm not permanently screwed. Any ideas why this could happen?
Jelmer Aug 7, 2013 @ 7:51am 
Is that 'hidden book' in Apocrypha? Can't find it there, but that would be the most logical place..
gavinator154 Aug 6, 2013 @ 5:28pm 
I just grabbed Ornoral's willpower, but it left me in the pits. What do I do?
Rob the Bob Aug 1, 2013 @ 2:41pm 
I've had this mod active for months but only finally got around to embarking on the quest recently and I loved it! Even after exploring Beth's vision of Apocrypha, I still think ThirteenOranges offers a great interpretation of the Prince of knowledge's realm.
The Hunting Grounds were just incredible! I wouldn't mind ending up there instead of Sovngarde. Really nice idea to give it a similar feel to Bloated Man's Grotto. It makes it really seem like Hircine's influence is very strong in the cave as he observes what he believes will be a glorious hunt in his honour.
demoncelt Jul 31, 2013 @ 2:20pm 
One recommendation for players. Do not try to leave Apocrypha while over encumbered (i.e., having filled up on books). You will be stuck there unless you load a save in which you had not yet used the activator. May not happen for everyone, but I tested several save files from before and during Apocrypha that all kept me from leaving in this manner. May have something to do with doing Apocrypha last (as is not recommended above) or it may just kick you back in the same way you can't fast travel while over encumbered.
$illybilllybowilly Jul 30, 2013 @ 7:11pm 
*mabye spoiler*

I noticed that the hidden bow's draw doesn't show that it is really ready to shoot if you have the Quick Draw perk. The bow is pulled and ready but if you shoot immediatly after it finishes its animation the arrow goes like 3 feet. I suspect that it gives you the Quick Draw perk on equip but doesn't stack with the real version. I dunno.
(A.B) #InLove Jul 22, 2013 @ 2:46am 
i love the SPOILER: _______ bow it's power is just amazing aspecially as i play asthe race ha
TehDarkMudkip Jul 20, 2013 @ 7:51pm 
To be honest you are one of the best RPG Questline creators I have found.
cphoenix Jul 18, 2013 @ 12:38pm 
Fair enough. The levelled lists is what got me, though those are liable to conflict with a pile of other mods too which is just out of your control. :p
ThirteenOranges  [author] Jul 18, 2013 @ 3:15am 
cphoenix: The "camera data" change is not an avoidable direct edit, it's simply a side effect of modifying the tamriel world space landscape, as it's the information that I believe holds max and min camera hights etc. I also believe that camera information there is held per cell, so for instance the changes to the cell edited in No Mercy won't have any conflicting effects with the cells edited in Realms. As for the levelled lists, those are the 2 lists used for books, and I concede that error, and I've known about it for some time as it was made in my first weeks of using the CK, when I wasn't aware of the best practices surrounding form lists and levelled objects (much like I was unaware of - and thus unable to compensate for - the grass loading/unloading issues visible in this mod), but I simply haven't had the time to go back and make the necessary changes. None of those should cause CTDs in any circumstance.