Vorpal Sword
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JKalenad  [author] Apr 22 @ 12:47pm 
I've been spoiled by the impeccable wit and writing in the original books that I get frustrated with the fact that because Alice is over 150 years old and has become ingrained in popular culture, it is apparently no longer read or adapted, but only referenced. I find it hard to understand why the mini-series bothered to use elements from the original books if it wasn't going to bother with the story. I'm sure it's fantastic on its own, but I ca'n't help but look at things from inside Wonderland.
Blue Apr 22 @ 12:07pm 
I can't I know Carroll's work near as well as you must, but I have a spot in my heart for under appreciated writers. I will say this about the mini-series; It doesn't claim to actually be depicting Lewis Carroll's story. Their idea was to show something that might happen in the distant future. Kind of a twist on those "dystopian future" movies I guess. And it's cool that you approve of their Jabberwock.
JKalenad  [author] Apr 22 @ 10:05am 
Let's assume the Tim Burton film quoted the poem wrong, even if it got the words right. Considering everything else it got so very, very wrong.
The mini-series looks pretty good, I'll admit, and I like how the Jabberwock sounds and moves. I'm such an Alice purist, though, that I ca'n't see myself watching it all the way through.
And yeah, the poem pretty much says that the Jabberwock was killed and its head was brought back as a trophy, rather than killed by decapitation. "One, two! One, two! and through and through! The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! He left it dead, and with its head, he went galumphing back."
I'm always happy to discuss Lewis Carroll's work. It's not appreciated as much as it should be.
Blue Apr 22 @ 9:40am 
You memorized Jabberwocky? THAT is impressive. It's one thing to memorize a poem, quite another to memorize a poem that uses words like frabjous and outgrabe. Anyway, the Jabberwock scene was probably my favorite part of the whole series. Have you seen the way they made it move? I think it's great. I couldn't find a very good video of it (Just the damn jhony depp version) but you can see it here at 3:18.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72TLRa5KB8s
Oh, and they did actually get the name correct. As for the poem, I know it says flaming eye's but I remember depp saying "Beware the Jabberwock my son, the eyes that burn, the teeth that bite, the claws that catch."
Btw, I agree with you about the decapitation thing. I think "One two, one two! And through and through" actually implies that he stabbed it to death.
...damn, my comments are long winded. Sorry about that...
JKalenad  [author] Apr 21 @ 3:31pm 
The original stanza goes, "And, as in uffish thought he stood, The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame, came whiffling through the tulgey wood, and burbled as it came." I...I have the poem memorized. I've never really seen an Alice adaptation that I liked, mostly because I know from experience that performing book as written is more entertaining than any modernization or reimagining can be. In my mind, if filmmakers wanted to make a new and unique take on Alice, they should just adapt the book as close as possible, since nobody's really done that. I am glad to see that the miniseries stayed true to the Jabberwock's bug-dragon design, though. It's delightfully creepy.
Blue Apr 21 @ 8:06am 
Yep, I remember that scene. I also seem to remember him adding the line "The eyes that burn", but I could be wrong. And it really does seem like the film is based almost completley on that poem. On a side note, I have to say if I was Alice in that movie I would have stayed in wonderland. Another one was a mini-series just called "Alice" which I enjoyed for the most part, but they still said Jabberwocky. They did make it look much more like the original illustrations though.
http://www.sfx.co.uk/2011/01/24/alice-creating-the-jabberwock/
JKalenad  [author] Apr 21 @ 5:13am 
I know, right?! That's one of my biggest pet peeves!
One of the worst examples is in Tim Burton's "adaptation," when the Mad Hatter recites a bastardized form of the poem that actually INCLUDES the line "Beware the Jabberwock, my son..." And despite that the monster is called Jabberwocky, as though they are fighting the poem itself.
And that film sure feels like they are.
Blue Apr 21 @ 4:18am 
Oh my god, THANK YOU for knowing it's the called JABBERWOCK and not "Jabberwocky"! Everywhere I look people call the beast the Jabberwocky, even though that's just the name of the poem. <.<
Darkash Apr 10 @ 6:21pm 
nice :)
Irish Duck Mar 30 @ 5:53pm 
I'd get it... If it weren't simply the two handed iron sword recolored..
JKalenad  [author] Jan 27 @ 9:07pm 
I'm sorry, I'm a bit of a socially-anxious hermit. After some bad experiences I only accept friend requests from friends I've spoken to offline, in person.
Also, I'm something of an Alice purist. I've never seen an adaptation I fully liked. My experience with Lewis Carroll's work is so deep and personal that I often don't like talking about it.
White Rabbit Jan 27 @ 8:35pm 
@ Creator - I hope we can talk. I think i've commented a couple times. I LOVE alice I.W. stuff, go figure by my name, right?
White Rabbit Jan 27 @ 8:25pm 
"Born on January 27, 1832 in Daresbury, Cheshire, England"............ Snicker Snack.
http://www.biography.com/people/lewis-carroll-9239598
JKalenad  [author] Jan 27 @ 6:31pm 
Thank YOU for leaving your comment on Lewis Carroll's birthday!
RustedCutlass717 Jan 27 @ 5:06pm 
This is just epic!! I've always loved the Jabberwocky, so having something related to it on Skyrim is a dream come true! Thank you so much!
White Rabbit Nov 6, 2013 @ 2:50pm 
I like Alice:Madness returns alot but i wish it was open world and a whole lot less jumping was involved.
White Rabbit Nov 6, 2013 @ 2:49pm 
I put the chapters from the book in a bookcase in my mod. As from my profile picture, i really liked the fight in Batman Arkham City in "Stopping the Clock" where you get drugged my the mad hatter (jervis tetch) and fight on a giant friggin clock with a wierd batman- Rabbit mask.

I want that mask in Skyrim SOOOO bad. Or a demented rabbit mask.
Samual.Webber95 Nov 6, 2013 @ 1:51pm 
Thanks,
JKalenad  [author] Nov 5, 2013 @ 7:33pm 
Oh, I hear you on the college. Eugh.
I'm something of a Lewis Carroll purist, in a way. I truly love Lewis Carroll's work, especially Alice in Wonderland, and it's actually surprising to me that I only have one mod for Skyrim based on it (same goes for Doctor Who). But really, the vorpal sword is the only thing from Alice that fits in Skyrim.
Most of my Alice creativity gets poured into a labor of love I call Project Carroll, a one-man adaptation, which I've somehow made nine chapters of.
White Rabbit Nov 5, 2013 @ 6:53pm 
I just got a ton more work. .______. college....*pfff*

Your welcome for the mod comment. I like anyone who can really appreciate something different, something alternative than boring old "day-to-day normal" blaaa-ness. I liked the last AIW movie the best,but i still liked ches from the old disney movie too. This current one just seemed more,well, inviting. Chess is awesome.
JKalenad  [author] Nov 4, 2013 @ 9:11pm 
I tend to load things in Creation Kit or Skyrim itself to check the textures.
And thanks!
White Rabbit Nov 4, 2013 @ 7:05pm 
Then how did you see your texture was correct?
As for the mods, I finally subscribed but I've had so much work I don't know when I'll get around to it. I like the idea of a 1H version of the greatsword.
JKalenad  [author] Nov 4, 2013 @ 6:47pm 
I'm not clear on it myself, but I know that Nifskope looks for filetypes, not specific files. When you do the render/settings, etc. thing, it loads a folder.
I'm not sure if it will work, but I'd suggest going to the skyrim/Data/textures folder rather than the desktop?
White Rabbit Nov 4, 2013 @ 5:08pm 
How do you load textures into Nifskope? It's not showing. YES i did the render/settings/addfolder/folder---desktop/textures

I clicked inside the texures folder and it's blank, but when i check on desktop all the files are there.
JKalenad  [author] Nov 3, 2013 @ 9:16pm 
The two swords look exactly alike except for size. The two-handed sword is not craftable, but you need it to craft the one-handed blade. So if you can see a vorpal sword in the smithing menu, that is the one-handed sword.
Incidentally, I found an issue in the mod and have updated it so that the one-handed sword is temperable.
Ravvan Nov 3, 2013 @ 9:09pm 
I am unable to craft the Blade.My only option is the 2-H Sword which is the one you pick up.
JKalenad  [author] Nov 3, 2013 @ 7:08pm 
With Arcane Blacksmith, you can temper the swords, since they're enchanted.
As for a version without enchantments...I'm very reluctant to do that, and I usually never do with my mods, but if I find the time I might put something together on a whim.
Ravvan Nov 3, 2013 @ 7:04pm 
Is there a way to temper these swords?
Samual.Webber95 Oct 8, 2013 @ 1:50pm 
Can you make it were you can craft the Sword without the enchantments?
White Rabbit Jul 28, 2013 @ 4:56pm 
snicker-snack
JKalenad  [author] Jul 27, 2013 @ 8:24pm 
I'll make a video showing exactly where it is. It's in the very end of the tomb.
Parrius Jul 27, 2013 @ 6:49pm 
Where in the ruins is it? I've been looking all over the place.
White Rabbit Jun 21, 2013 @ 3:42pm 
Thanks. :}
White Rabbit Jun 21, 2013 @ 3:06pm 
Is there a tutorial for getting pictures like you did into skyrim and what's the link (if you want to help)?
hongkong822 Jun 20, 2013 @ 12:47pm 
I got this, but I already went to High Gate Ruins and cleared it out... And I didn't feel like doing it again...
JKalenad  [author] Jun 16, 2013 @ 2:02pm 
I am, yes. Mystic Knight from the Nexus.
Metal Head(on vacation 02-08-14 Jun 16, 2013 @ 2:01pm 
Are you yousing a stance mod ?
JKalenad  [author] Jun 14, 2013 @ 10:44am 
Actually, the one-handed version is already done!
Thunderwell Jun 14, 2013 @ 10:40am 
Spiffy, man! (or woman!) I look forward to giving the 1-hander a try if/when you put it up in this mod. My character Dual-Wields, but just having one would be nice with the Dragonbane sword. Hehe.
Thanks a lot for considering my comment! :D
JKalenad  [author] Jun 13, 2013 @ 9:46am 
I'm thinking of make a one-handed Vorpal Blade based on the steel sword, or a shrunken version of the Iron Greatsword, but not an exact copy of this sword to one-handed.
Thunderwell Jun 12, 2013 @ 11:04pm 
Quite nice. Would you be inclined to making a 1-handed version?
JKalenad  [author] Jun 12, 2013 @ 3:48pm 
Putting pictures in books is kind of tricky. It requires a little bit of trial and error and big ugly links, so I'd suggest looking at in-game books in Creation Kit for clues.
White Rabbit Jun 12, 2013 @ 2:49pm 
@ Creator and everyone - I made an Alice - themed mod. Check it out if you wish.
@ Creator - how do you get pictures in the books????
Chizik Jun 12, 2013 @ 10:46am 
i would've thought about this but the jabberwocky poem sold it for me :D
Sadiebubs Jun 11, 2013 @ 12:54pm 
I didnt know that it was a dungion Ive never been there ingame well saying ruin was in the name I should have known.
JKalenad  [author] Jun 11, 2013 @ 11:37am 
Thanks! I did put it in High Gate Ruins, after all. That's a pretty hefty dungeon. That and I don't have the skills to make a new dungeon...
Sadiebubs Jun 11, 2013 @ 11:25am 
just an idea mabye make a dungeon that you have to go through to get it.
Sadiebubs Jun 11, 2013 @ 11:24am 
I didnt know someone could make an iron great sword look so good but I sadly I wont get this mod because its to op mabye you should make it scale with level like chill rend.
Pokéchu13 Jun 10, 2013 @ 8:08am 
Looks good.