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Research what your gonna buy via company reviews, customer reviews and youtube then make your choice whether or not your gonna buy it.
if you dont research the games you're looking at then buy and hate it thats your fault dont cry on the forums cos your a fricken r-e-t-a-r-d.
um dont know what beta's you've been in but Beta is still an Unfinished Product, Beta Testers test the game and report issues, glitches and any bugs found in the game so they can be looked at and fixed before the game is released in no way is Beta a Finished product of the game.
Do you really think all the people who jumped into testing CS:GO did it to test it, look for errors, and provide feedback to fix the bugs? They weren't. They were there to play before anyone, to be 'first!" in the game. You could read them on the beta bugs threads, not reporting bugs, but complaining about how buggy the last update was.
They were not 'testing' the game, they were 'playing' it.
It was a matter of time before publishers tried to get a slice of that cake. And it was a matter of time before some publisher decided to abuse it (TheWarZ)
And that's why they complain even when 'This is not a finished product' is plastered all across the section. Because they simply don't understand it, they've been too used to consider Beta access a 'Finished-Product earlier access' so the fact that an actual Alpha game is in an Alpha state shocks them. They just want to play it before everyone else, not test it, find bugs, bear with crashes...
its people who treat beta's as early access to the game is why we get games full of bugs in the first place they dont deserve to be in a beta if they dont report any errors they find.
many companies state in the ToS "This is not a finished project and is subject to change" yes your seeing the game before others but it doesnt mean thats what the game will be like on release there will be lots of changes before a release from beta and saying they arent testing the game they are playing it is redundant you have to play the game to test it, people who just want in Beta's just to have Early Access to the game are the scum of the gaming community.
Beta's and Alpha's are there for us to help said games companies to make their games better not for people to go "im just here cos i wanted early access to the game" those people defeat the purpose of us being in them, the people that want to be in them to help make the game better for the release.
god me + a load of friends was in the Alpha and are currently in the Beta for FFXIV we dont just play the game we look for all posible exploits while we play any bugs any glitches and we report them to the Devs since thats what a Beta Tester should do.
nice and warm actually, atleast i know what a Beta is ment for unlike you, your probably one of those people that just want to use Beta's as Early Access and fall under the Scum Catergory good day to you.
Back in the day, betas were free and a means of testing a product before mass consumption. Companies began to realize, in public/open betas at least, that users were more interested in trying a game early then actually providing feedback and bug testing. People liked having a chance to try upcoming games early. Who wouldn't?
These are the same people who complained when their characters in MMO betas were wiped upon release, and the same people who didn't understand they were participating in a beta and the developers didn't get the critical feedback and bug testing they needed. They just used them to play the games, not test them. The "open beta" process becoming bastardized by it's own users should've been a red flag to find a better means of testing games.
Instead, since the users were not using betas for their intended purposes anyways, developers decided "alright... we'll still give you the early access you like so much, but we'll give it a different name [from beta to early access] and we might as well get some revenue/marketing out of it in the process."
Not sure who to blame really. It's a little sleazy of the developers to embrace the stupidity of their userbase and monetize/market their game off of a critical development phase... which probably is a small part in why games are so buggy out of the gate these days. But if gamers are stupid enough to pay for something, and not realize what they are paying for or their role in the process, then I can't say they don't deserve it.
Thats impressive, that you can say you grew up with games and still be completly oblivious and condescending in the exact same sentance. There are companies that use "Early Access" and glorified betas as a means to drive early sales and mass appeal via user feedback. Thats some thing people need to be aware of and be sure that they are not just being fooled into paying for a game already in release state. It has happened, but the vast majority of games releasing in Alpha/Beta states are quite literally the results of gamers saying to devs and publishers that we can differentiate between release and test phases and that while we may not enjoy the entire process. We do want the option to buy the game and contribute to the process in a testing capacity.
Games like Natural Selection 2, Minecraft, WarZ, Miner Wars and currently ArmA 3 offer such options to gamers. That or they have at different stages in development offered different options. Minecraft for one was far cheaper the earlier you bought it. These are not all scams, they are hard fought concessions that the community has long since asked for. People out there do want to contribute, and often in cash, testing and feedback to ideas and dev input. The vast majority of actual gamers are informed and read up on any product they are intrested in.
If a game is in Alpha or Beta expect issues. Even the best Developers have problems they can't forsee. But never mind that, if an offer sounds too good to be true, it often is. Only buy a product if you know it is worth the price. Only a fool buys some thing without knowing what they bought.
probably by the people that dont research their games and are all butthurt over buying a game they later regeted
Sadly people are far quicker to throw blame about than accept responsibility as a consumer. In part I think it has to do with the misconception of the laws that are there to protect consumers. Instead if people took an hour and looked at a game and really asked themselves if it was what they wanted and at the price they are asking for. That is incredibly simple online as there are far more resources out there to allow people to do this.
The knee-jerk reaction to this may well be that we no longer get the oportunity to test games or have the option to support games at an earlier state of development. Which would be one of the sadest things to happen to gaming and development. Look at Kickstarter and the number of really great games that have been crowd funded. It would be detrimental to the growth of this medium because people are blatantly unable to follow a simple process as researching a game before buying, IF it's a game you may regret buying.
Archeblade and Planetside 2 are the two most recent examples I had. PS2 beta ran at 1fps for me once I left spawn. Empty, nothing there. No other game gave me problems. When it finally got released I could care less even though it apparently got more optimized. I decided to try it when I upgraded my compy... and I found I really enjoy the game. But I was really reluctant to install.
Archeblade too.. I just played it and I find it clunky as all hell... Hope it's better later on.
For an example of this, I played Matrix Online in Alpha stage. It was at 2/3am my time for two days a week. The test server was in New York and the game was not optimised at all. I spent 90% of my testing dealing with crashes, glitches and lag you would not believe. At some points the lag turned 10 minute missions into a minimum of an hour due to rubber banding sending me back a huge distance every time. I still seen the games potential and had a lot of fun. While the game wasn't everyones cup of tea and I didn't agree with every decision they made I still bought it and played it because there was a lot there I did like. If I had played that like you seem to I'd have quit the first day and never have played it again. I'd have never had played with some of the Admins and community members. I'd have not have had as much fun as I had, even with the issues if I'd just quit because of common issues in that development stage.
As I said before, PC gamers are generally the most informed and opinionated of all gamers. People who enjoyed gaming and even wanted to help with the development have worked hard to allow us access to games in states the publishers never used to let the public see. There was no Alpha and Beta access because the publishers and developers feared the exact same thing you mentioned. But we have gotten to the stage where people actively involve themselves in IP they really care for and want to support. I would not like this access dropped because there are people out there who expect the impossible and have neither the common sense or ability to understand the implications of Alpha and Beta. No-one is ever forced to play a game in an unfinnished state. If you can't enjoy games in that state then don't play them. If it's obvious that it will ruin your experiance, why would you even bother playing them if that's the case.
This is something that baffles me. People complain about Early Access while they should be glad to have a clear distinction between an alpha stage game and a finished one. This should've been in place *a long* time ago.
Let any commecial dept. manage the Steam store page without any supervision was one of the biggest mistake Valve made recently (yes, I'm talking about The WarZ). A mistake they paid fairly well, considering they issued full refunds at the very instant one asked for, but still a mistake.
*fixed