Unbalanced Tank Spawns

[Kotex]

Everyone who plays versus has had a time where out of thin air, a tank spawns at the most conveniently horrible time and place for you to fight it and ends up wiping out your team in seconds. However when its your turn to play infected the tank wont spawn in the same place it spawned against you. Half the time it will either be way sooner or way later, giving your opponents an undeserved advantage to take it down without any major interference.

If their tank spawns in the middle of a mega event horde, your opponents should have to fight yours in the same place and time. But all too often i see tanks that spawn before the event or after it when its less effective. Even if you check for the tank ahead of time it wont spawn until the worst time possible but gives the other team the best possible time.

I can sympathize with my opponents should they suffer the kind of misfortune im talking about, because im not a total c*nt and at least offer the possibility to restart. But the occurrence shouldn't happen at all. What was going through Valve/T-Rock's head when they programmed such a flighty director? I have reason to believe the Director is the Joker from Batman sitting behind a super huge computer in a dark room messing with people's games.

[Munkee]

i had a tank spawn minute we left the saferoom of the dead center finale

[Kotex]

Publicado originalmente por Munkee, Cuddles Your Face Off:

i had a tank spawn minute we left the saferoom of the dead center finale

Yea that happens. But im not talking about just where they spawn. Im talking about them spawning differently for your opponents. :o

[Mr. Alex]

I had a friend who ragequited a few times because of this in vs.
Personally, i dont think its a big problem.

The team which is in the lead will get the Tank first, so they cant prepare for it, the losing team can, and we can call that balancing.

Also this happens randomly, so at the end every team will have advantage/disadvantage from these Tank spawns.
I can understand some players can find this frustrating, but in my 299 versus matches i only met 1 player who actually had problems with this.

[Munkee]

Publicado originalmente por ♥.:Jill of all Trades:.♥:

Publicado originalmente por Munkee, Cuddles Your Face Off:

i had a tank spawn minute we left the saferoom of the dead center finale

Yea that happens. But im not talking about just where they spawn. Im talking about them spawning differently for your opponents. :o

ooh. like u get it in the tunnel of love, but the opponent gets it on the roller coaster?

[Kotex]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Alex:

I had a friend who ragequited a few times because of this in vs.
Personally, i dont think its a big problem.

The team which is in the lead will get the Tank first, so they cant prepare for it, the losing team can, and we can call that balancing.

Also this happens randomly, so at the end every team will have advantage/disadvantage from these Tank spawns.
I can understand some players can find this frustrating, but in my 299 versus matches i only met 1 player who actually had problems with this.

Knowing when and where a tank is going to spawn is an advantage in and of itself. But what is uneccessary is letting it spawn out of place the second time. As i mentioned if its going to spawn in the middle of an event, then let it spawn in the middle of the event for both teams. The other team is going to see and prepare for it during all that when they see it spawn against you the first time, but instead theyre allowed to fight it before any of that and ruin its effectiveness depending on the location.

For example A tank spawns in the hallway as soon as you all drop over the doorway in dead center leaving you trapped, but on your opponents turn it spawns before they jump over, and also puts the tank so far back itll even bot by the time you reach them.

I don't have a personal vendetta against it but i dont think it should happen like that for either team.

[mwob]

Publicado originalmente por Munkee, Cuddles Your Face Off:

ooh. like u get it in the tunnel of love, but the opponent gets it on the roller coaster?

I know what you mean^^

[Munkee]

Publicado originalmente por m-w-o-b:

Publicado originalmente por Munkee, Cuddles Your Face Off:

ooh. like u get it in the tunnel of love, but the opponent gets it on the roller coaster?

I know what you mean^^

uh.. then do you wanna clue me in?

[mwob]

Publicado originalmente por Munkee, Cuddles Your Face Off:

Publicado originalmente por m-w-o-b:

I know what you mean^^

uh.. then do you wanna clue me in?

o.0
I mean that e.g. when I play as a tank I get him on dark carnival in "the tunnel of love". And the opposite get the tank in the roller coaster.

[Munkee]

Publicado originalmente por m-w-o-b:

Publicado originalmente por Munkee, Cuddles Your Face Off:

uh.. then do you wanna clue me in?

o.0
I mean that e.g. when I play as a tank I get him on dark carnival in "the tunnel of love". And the opposite get the tank in the roller coaster.

oh.. idk why.. i thought it was a sexual joke i wasn't getting.. my bad.

[Gee Ellis]

There is upto a %10 variation in tank spawn locations

versus_tank_flow_team_variation "0.1" // Default 0.1 Window of flow distance that the tank can spawn in for the second team in versus

It wasn't always this way, somehow the devs considered it a good idea :S


Ruins it for some teams and ends up in a close game being shutdown to ppl leaving when the disparity between spawn areas makes it unfair for one team.

[Meatspin]

yes its a problem in the game,for it search for promod (the unnoficial oficial mod for tourneys), fix some of issues, and you will find much better players to play, i play l4d2 in tourneys, i no see much problem in the spawns even if is spawned in the roller coaster with horde, have some spots to you to go that stop the horde.
the prolem some times is not the game, ex; c1m2_highway when you need to pickup the cola and back to the weapons store, if you go to the truck first then opening the door of the store have a chance to spawn the tank, if other team just go to the door the tank not spawn because the tank only spawn if you go close the truck. . so this is one of the differences that is the team problems and not the game, but need to be fixed i dont know why valve no fix some spawns, c1m1_hotel some times tank for one team spawn before the elevator, and for the other team spawn later the elevator, if spawn later only the team that knows how to make a teleport tank will get the tank, so is so much problems is for it i will recommend will to search for promod, and stop playing in oficial servers or public servers(sorry for the english).