Where are the saves located?

[Tassit]

I finished the Vor arc last night, when I brought up the game today it says I have no saves.
Where are the save files located so I can verify?

[Windwalker]

Saves in REGISTERY............

Just to be sure people know. This game uses the Registery for your save games. This is a very scary thing as this game can destroy your operating system if it has a crash while messing with the REG. Using the Registery to save is something you see in ALPHA builds not a retail build.

I would really like to hear from the Devloper as to why they are risking our PC's instead of doing a correct save file.

*Edit - Correct spelling :-/

[Bionerd]

Yeah, storing saves in a more appropriate location like My Games would be nice. (Holding off on buying btw).

[76561188078797539]

.. ugh. Yeah, that's not a very safe way of handling things.

Also, it means that I lose my saves if I need to reinstall the OS.

I really, really wish games kept to using My Documents for saves when working in Windows. I'm not going to go hunting through hidden folders looking for each save location for each bloody game.

[Ivana Humpalot]

Annnnd I'm out!
One less potential buyer...

[Samseng Yik]

Your OS only needed certain registry in order to run properly.
Your OS doesn't care how corrupted is your game save data in order to run properly

[76561188078797539]

Originally posted by Samseng Yik:

Your OS only needed certain registry in order to run properly.
Your OS doesn't care how corrupted is your game save data in order to run properly

The problem is that bad pointers or references can happen.

Mostly it will likely result in garbage keys in registry, but should it actually hit something important, the end result won't be pretty.

I really do not understand why one would use registry instead of a simple save file at all.

[Drake]

Originally posted by Samseng Yik:

Your OS only needed certain registry in order to run properly.
Your OS doesn't care how corrupted is your game save data in order to run properly

Corrupt registry, redundant entries, slow down your computer, can and do causes errors.

[Kulin]

Originally posted by Drake:

Originally posted by Samseng Yik:

Your OS only needed certain registry in order to run properly.
Your OS doesn't care how corrupted is your game save data in order to run properly

Corrupt registry, redundant entries, slow down your computer, can and do causes errors.

Only in relevant places, though. Like CLSID and so on. Places the operating system is actually checking for information it needs.

Nonetheless it is strange to save large data streams in the registry. Maybe it's just much less then we think? A little data for every ship and captain, a little summary for your progress... A few kbytes could be enough if you are good in desiging the save format and don't just serialize everything.

[Drake]

Originally posted by Kulin:

Originally posted by Drake:

Corrupt registry, redundant entries, slow down your computer, can and do causes errors.

Only in relevant places, though. Like CLSID and so on. Places the operating system is actually checking for information it needs.

Nonetheless it is strange to save large data streams in the registry. Maybe it's just much less then we think? A little data for every ship and captain, a little summary for your progress... A few kbytes could be enough if you are good in desiging the save format and don't just serialize everything.

There's no good reason to save in registry.

[Kulin]

Its actually a pretty convenient way to store settings. And it's pretty easy to keep everything orderly. Just because Microsoft tells you "its no longer best practice" they don't need to be right, you know.

Microsoft changes her minds about the best practices all the time. And they rethink their concepts on where to store this setting every few years. It was quite a bit of work for us when they decided to make saving of files in program files impossible. Write something into XML files in program files suddenly needed elevated user privileges. I remember the reason for this very well. Viruses were able to afflict programs in this folder.

This must be the most stupid thing microsoft has ever pulled off. Everything was just so clean. And then they "invented" appdata, the documents folder, programdata and what not. What we have now is a gigantic mess scattered al over these folders. And did they actually prevent viruses from doing damage? Not at all. Imagine that time. A program and all non-user-specific things belonging to that program: in ONE single folder, structured however you like. So clean and simple.

I recently cleaned up my documents-folder. Its full with badly named folders and files where nobody knows where they belong to. Hundreds of folder scattered over appdata\local, localroaming, roaming and programdata. Its a mess.

Do you hear me steam game developers? The Documents folder is for MY DOCUMENTS. NOT YOURS. TAKE YOUR GREEDY HANDS OF AND STOP MESSING MY ♥♥♥♥ UP.

[DedZedNub]

This is an odd thread. I actually saw this complete thread and read it posted in another game months ago on a Steam forum, just can't remember where I read this. I mean, every single post is the same for the whole thread, really weird.

Normally, you don't save an entire save game in the Registry. You might save certain game settings and the location of the save directory. Only because things can go wrong, rarely, and a corrupted save in the registry with partial writings all over the place, doesn't sound real good.

But, again, I'm not joking ... I've read this entire thread, word for word -- reply for reply, in another Steam forum months ago. This makes me wonder if this is a scam or not to influence purchase of this game or hurt its reputation.

Devs might want to officially respond to this thread because of this oddity. I read Steam forums often 20+ hours a week on hundreds of games each couple weeks, skimming even more. So I'm not joking when I said the above.

[motorbit]

Originally posted by Drake:

Corrupt registry, redundant entries, slow down your computer, can and do causes errors.

it wont slow down anything. a few bites of data only loaded when the game needs them. its a game, not a driver.
for the same reason, it wont cause any errors, exept with the game itself. also, the game would store data in the registry anyway, even if it would not store save game data there.

Originally posted by Drake:

There's no good reason to save in registry.

there is one reason: its a (little bit) harder to save scum. if its a good reason... after all, its still possible to save scum.


but whatever its the best or smartest way to do it, im quite sure this can not cause any problems.

[i_nive]

Found https://saltthegame.com/pages/SaltSaveFiles/
So it's not a precedent. IMHO the decision is odd (the referenced URL says it's temporary).

[Thuloid]

Originally posted by DedZedNub:

But, again, I'm not joking ... I've read this entire thread, word for word -- reply for reply, in another Steam forum months ago. This makes me wonder if this is a scam or not to influence purchase of this game or hurt its reputation.

Bizarre. Can you think of a way to search for that?

[Drake]

Originally posted by motorbit:

Originally posted by Drake:

Corrupt registry, redundant entries, slow down your computer, can and do causes errors.

it wont slow down anything. a few bites of data only loaded when the game needs them. its a game, not a driver.
for the same reason, it wont cause any errors, exept with the game itself. also, the game would store data in the registry anyway, even if it would not store save game data there.

Originally posted by Drake:

There's no good reason to save in registry.

there is one reason: its a (little bit) harder to save scum. if its a good reason... after all, its still possible to save scum.


but whatever its the best or smartest way to do it, im quite sure this can not cause any problems.

Oh please, "save scum", yeah you're one of those "...play the game the way I tell you to..."

Get lost.