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[Linux] Black World Map
Hello folks,

I just started playing Wasteland 2 on Ubuntu. Everything worked great until I had to travel for the first time. Since then, my screen has turned black. However, I can still move the party and have access to the journal, inventory and so on. I tried it in windowed mode and with several resolutions - without success.

Here are 2 screenshots that show the issue.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=315946008
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=315945968

Any idea what to do?

SYSTEM:
Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
8 GB RAM
Intel Core i5-3230M (2,60GHz x 4)
NVIDIA GT740m (recent drivers)

Regards
Last edited by Ye genteel sire; Sep 19, 2014 @ 2:26pm
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Kovax Sep 19, 2014 @ 10:43am 
Hey,
got the same issue. If you go into the "overworld map" that shows the Radio Tower etc then back and scroll with your mouse to the upper right (fixed: said left by mistake) corner you should get a "pocket" in the darkness that is Ranger HQ.
Last edited by Kovax; Sep 19, 2014 @ 10:44am
Lagoon Sep 19, 2014 @ 1:41pm 
On Ubuntu Linux, it looks like the game is being extraordinarily aggressive (read as blanket black in place of fog or similar) when calculating ambient occlusion for angles that aren't expected to be accessible.

I'm experiencing the same symptoms - though in far more instances than just the world map. Aside from the bug mentioned by Ye genteel sire, the black "discovery fog" sticks around even after portions of the overworld map have been explored. This is especially bad when exploring or traveling next to mountains, as you find yourself trying to negotiate around these pockets of black that simply won't disappear.

This problem exists in more than just the overworld map. The screen will go completely black if the player camera is centered on an area that is deemed to be just outside the "playable" bounds. This bug is absolutely crippling in areas like the Central Basement. As soon as the player loads in, the UI elements are still present, but the playable map is completely black. This makes completing the Ag Center unnecessarily difficult for people who have this problem.

Edit: I'm experiencing the same problems on an Intel GPU. I may open a separate thread to track this problem for Intel GPUs if Clearer's suggestion is working for NVIDIA GPU owners.
Last edited by Lagoon; Sep 19, 2014 @ 2:07pm
Jormundgand Sep 19, 2014 @ 1:43pm 
This is not an Ubuntu problem, but, likely an nvidia problem. I have the same problem with the closed source drivers. Will test with free drivers.

Edit: This is definetly a bug in the closed source drivers. Dropping the drivers nvidia allows me to play the game just fine -- except when in beautiful. The drivers are not good enough for that setting. Also the game crashed on the first map transition when in beautiful. No problems so far in fast.
Last edited by Jormundgand; Sep 19, 2014 @ 1:54pm
Lagoon Sep 19, 2014 @ 1:59pm 
Clearer: I am experiencing the problems on one of Intel's NUC's - the D54250WYK. `lshw` states the graphics subsystem as "Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller" using the i915 driver. Most definitely is an Intel GPU and not a NVIDIA GPU.
Jormundgand Sep 19, 2014 @ 2:16pm 
Maybe, but getting rid of the closed source drivers fixed the problem for me. Check your drivers and switch them if you have an option. The problems you're describing sounds like a different bug to me though. I was just seeing a big black nothing in the world map, unable to interact with it at all.

Just an addtional FYI: I'm running Fedora which is slightly more standards conformant than Ubuntu when it comes to a lot things. Just to verify that it's not an actual problem with Ubuntu, could anyone having problems with the game on Ubuntu, try the game on something other than a debian based distro (take your pick)?

Regardless of how I fixed the problem though, since (I have been told by devs) the game has been optimized for closed source drivers, the bug should be fixed in the game and a user should not rely on hacks or workarounds. Bad bug considering it wasn't present in the beta :-(

OP: Could you change the title of the thread to something a tiny bit more descriptive, like, say "[Linux] Black world map"?
Last edited by Jormundgand; Sep 19, 2014 @ 2:18pm
Lagoon Sep 19, 2014 @ 2:36pm 
Clearer: At this point, I'll agree that it is probably a different problem, as I can technically interact with the world map if the camera is at the right angle. I'll go ahead and start a separate thread for my issue.
the_free_prince Sep 20, 2014 @ 3:17am 
Yep. I have the same issue here too. Damn, and I was thinking to play Wasteland the whole weekend.
My grapic card is Intel® HD Graphics 4400.
gb Sep 20, 2014 @ 5:48pm 
Exactly same thing here - world map and ordinary map if rotated, Linux, mesa 10.2, intel i3 sandy bridge, 64 bit...
Last edited by gb; Sep 20, 2014 @ 5:48pm
gb Sep 20, 2014 @ 5:54pm 
As there is also windows thread for black worldmap, and bug exists in multiple drivers - intel and nvidia problems is not with drivers.

As it works with 'non-prprietary' NVidia driver, probably both Mesa-intel and nvidia-prop implementing some extension which is 'misused' by game. So it should be possible to figure out which by gradually turning them on/off.
Last edited by gb; Sep 20, 2014 @ 5:55pm
gb Sep 20, 2014 @ 6:38pm 
If I set MESA_EXTENSION_MAX_YEAR=2003 game "blacks" on camera rotation, if I set it to MESA_EXTENSION_MAX_YEAR=2002 there is no black anymore. But there is also no fog =(
Jormundgand Sep 21, 2014 @ 1:14pm 
For people without nvidia chips, please check that your problem is the one described in the OP -- this is a simple case of a black world map, with no interaction with any objects on the map.

Lagoon has described a similar problem, however it is not identical. He is able to interact with world objects and also has problems in the local maps, where he can get some graphics going by moving the camera. Please verify that you are not suffering from the same problems he does.

gb -- can you get a list of extensions available in both cases?
Boboshooter Sep 23, 2014 @ 7:24am 
same problem here... Bodhi Linux on my Acer c720 Chromebook...
*****ed Sep 23, 2014 @ 8:12am 
Same here. Linux Mint 17 on Intel HD4000.
gb Sep 24, 2014 @ 3:43pm 
My idea have failed. I tried to turn set 2002 and gradually add extensions which are only in 2003, after that I tried 2003 and gradually remove one-by-one till I get to state of 2002. It simple doesn't work in the way I expect - if I disable something particular game doesn't run but there is completely no effect if I disable rest.
This are the lists:
http://pastebin.com/euGAxqWW <- 2002
http://pastebin.com/AuTidXJN <- 2003


gb Sep 24, 2014 @ 3:46pm 
The world map is only black because you unfortunately in wrong place. Move map forward with keys/mouse and it will no longer be black
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