[Story Spoilers] decisions and their impact on the story

[Tsho]

Hey guys,

first of all: I really enjoyed the game, the setting more than anything else. I was so intrigued by the story, im watching documentations on the aztecs and the spanish invasion non stop.


So, I finished the game twice now and tried to play in different styles to see how things might evolve in different ways. Clearly i couldn't see all different situations, so maybe we could collect them here.



- Obviously, you can let Isabela join your party.
- Isabela asks permission to help defending another part of the city before the battle at the palace. When you allow her to help, both these battle will be won.
- With Isabela's aid, Umberto de Rossi survives.
- If de Rossi survives he's the one rebuilding the fort.

Question: Is de Rossi sentenced to death the minute i choose Isabela not to join my party or let her be sacrificed? Who's kidnapped, if she's not available?
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You can ♥♥♥♥ off Noriega, thus no tournament fight against his troops is arranged.
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- You can side with Coyotl during the food quest for Tenochtitlan or kill him.
- If Coyotle joins your group, it's possible he leaves again to defend Tenochtitlan and its market.

Question: Who's defending it if he did not leave? How can his departure be prevented?

Are there any other story related events that have long-term effects?

[Jonas]

Escrito originalmente por N.:

Question: Is de Rossi sentenced to death the minute i choose Isabela not to join my party or let her be sacrificed? Who's kidnapped, if she's not available?

Yeah, if Isabela never joins you, Umberto is doomed. The game will choose a random follower from your group to abduct instead. If, somehow, you only had one follower left at that point, it's an instant game over - one of the few ways you can trigger a straight-up game over.[/quote]

- If Coyotle joins your group, it's possible he leaves again to defend Tenochtitlan and its market.
Question: Who's defending it if he did not leave? How can his departure be prevented?

Coyotl will leave you only if you join the Totonac. If you side with the Aztecs, Citlalli will leave you instead (provided you have her, obviously). You can talk them out of it when it happens if their morale is high enough, or you can talk them back on your side when you meet them in the battle if they're your lover. If they don't leave, there's no confrontation before the battle in question - instead you get more tactical options for how to tackle that battle depending on your skills (scouting, tactics, diplomacy).

Are there any other story related events that have long-term effects?

Well, there's plenty. Many of them are quite small though, I can list some of the big ones.

If you complete the quest involving Tlaxcala for the faction that you side with, but NOT for the faction that you side against (for example, if you side with the Totonac and complete Protect The Envoy but either fail the Toltec Temple raid for the Aztecs or just never go through with it), the market fight in the end will never even happen if you side with the Totonac in the end, because Tlaxcala stays out of the battle for Tenochtitlan. That means you don't have to send somebody to the other battle, because you don't have to choose which one to handle on your own.

If you lose your Fortress, you can't get the "Conquistador" ending. I guess that goes without saying.

Noriega dies if you fail the last battle in Hispaniola. Without Noriega, you don't get a free boost for your garrison, and instead of him being essentially the quest giver for the Conquistador ending, it'll be your highest ranking Spanish follower.

In the Aztec questline, if you let Anacaona join your group, and keep her alive long enough, you can use her to blackmail Tepictoton later, so you can "take" Xalapa without a fight, and Tepictoton will agree to not show up to the battle for Tenochtitlan, though it's too late for him to call off the other chieftains. Unfortunately Anacaona will escape from Xalapa again and show up to thwart you at Tenochtitlan instead.

If you bring Anacaona to the Toltec village in the first quest for Tepictoton, and Tlalli beats you to the idol because you don't convince him to sell it, she can talk Tlalli down so you can get the idol without bloodshed. I believe there are other ways to do that too, but I don't remember :P

If you marry Tayanna/Cacama and still go through the romance arc with Citlalli/Coyotl, they'll get in a fight later.

If you capture the giant jaguar, you can unleash her in Xalapa or Cuautitlán (depending on which faction you sided with) later on, to make that battle significantly easier.

Did you get Necalli, the tribal warrior? A lot of people seem to miss him.

If you attack Papantla for the Aztec questline before Tepictoton visits it in the Totonac storyline, he gets really really pissed when he returns to Xalapa and talks to you again, and if you want to continue along the Totonac storyline, you have to pay a large amount of treasure in restitution to the people of Papantla.

There's a bunch more, but no more big ones really come to mind :-)

[Tsho]

Very cool, thanks Jonas!

Escrito originalmente por Jonas:

Yeah, if Isabela never joins you, Umberto is doomed. The game will choose a random follower from your group to abduct instead. If, somehow, you only had one follower left at that point, it's an instant game over - one of the few ways you can trigger a straight-up game over.

Poor Umberto! I'd never thought of such a simple decision being so impactful! (in my first playthrough at least)

I recognized some of the things you mentioned. I unleashed the jaguar and witnessed the fight between Citlali and Tayanna. And i took Anacaona with me in my second playthrough, BUT... after playing Good Guy Greg and being nice the first time i picked all racist, aggressive members that time, which made Anacoana quite unhappy. I sacrificed her in the great temple in Tenochtitlan after getting her to -4 morale...

Regarding Necalli: Nope, never heard of that name. Any hints on where to encounter him? (Maybe i simply don't remember. I'm not good with names)

[Jonas]

Escrito originalmente por N.:

I recognized some of the things you mentioned. I unleashed the jaguar and witnessed the fight between Citlali and Tayanna. And i took Anacaona with me in my second playthrough, BUT... after playing Good Guy Greg and being nice the first time i picked all racist, aggressive members that time, which made Anacoana quite unhappy. I sacrificed her in the great temple in Tenochtitlan after getting her to -4 morale...

Hahah! In some of the conversations with Tepictoton, he'll actually notice if Anacaona is no longer with you, and you have to lie and just say she's back at the caravan.

Regarding Necalli: Nope, never heard of that name. Any hints on where to encounter him? (Maybe i simply don't remember. I'm not good with names)

He shows up in the tavern at the fortress if you progress a bit through the Totonac questline :-)

[Ballsm]

So cool, you guys did an awesome job making decisions matter. Puts just about every RPG I think of to shame. Epic