Let's talk

[Aphex]

I was watching the Pillars of Eternity sale and came to one realization. I will never buy any game from your greedy company. This game came out over one year before POE and you haven't had a decent sale in all this time. You STILL want full price. Now you are working on the 2nd game and want Kickstarter money despite having made tons of money from the first game....hell it was GOTY.

What the actual ♥♥♥♥ is going on? I see what is going on. Your eyes went $.$
I don't give a crap about your company or what you are doing in the future. Me and many other people will remember this move. So....fanboys come at me. Truth has been told.

Wouldn't even spit your way....disgraceful.

[Stabbey]

Please let the door hit your dumb butt on the way out. Good riddance to you, you whining piece of garbage.

[pINKprotege]

Have you ever considered the possibility that... maybe... just maybe... you're the greedy one? Nah, what was I thinking! You're absolutely right! What a greedy bunch of ahole, huh?

Disgraceful indeed...

[Wazat1]

Bah! Just a troll. Don't feed; ignore.

[Travathian]

Do you crybaby to Apple cause they dont sell iPhones at half price?

[Travathian]

Again, do you crybaby to Apple cause they don't sell iPhones at half price?

It's a valid argument. You are claiming that the dev is insulting you because they won't offer their goods at a discount. Do you treat all manufacturers of goods this way? Why would I discount my goods if people are more than willing to pay full price? When was the last time Minecraft went on sale?

Go take a basic economics course, you sound like a damned crybaby 12 year old.

[Travathian]

Originally posted by Aphex:

I can buy iPhones second hand for cheap, I can also buy Minecraftaccounts for cheap.

Way to dodge the question. So you proved my point. You don't crybaby to Apple that their phones never go on sale for half-price. So STFU and GTFO cause no one gives a ♥♥♥♥ about a 12yo w/o enough allowance to afford one of the best games of last year.

[pINKprotege]

Originally posted by Aphex:

You cannot defend this. Thats why i get insults thrown my way instead of arguments.

How about... it's their game and they can choose not to go on sale if they don't want to? The DOS Enhanced Edition is going to have full VO(which is extremely expensive in case you didn't know) and a bunch of new features and it's going to cost nothing for everyone who already have the game. You can be pissed about the pricing all you want, but they're NOT greedy.

[Wazat1]

Originally posted by Aphex:

But you are right. Their game. I don't really care. Just wanted to share my thoughts....and i might not be the only one. Reputation is fragile.

So in other words, you're trying to wield the mob to attack a company and feel powerful; threaten them and get your way. Common stuff on the steam forums. So let's regard you seriously as nothing more than a social-movement troll.

I love the misinformation you wield to feed your rage. You know, Larian is releasing the Enhanced Edition for free for customers of D:OS, and is working on the next game using their own money. The kickstarter was to fund enhancements that were outside the scope and budget of the sequel. They almost went bankrupt on the first game (literally bet it all on D:OS and won), and they're being cautious about the sequel's scope. D:OS has gone on sale in the past, and may go on sale in the future, but the idea that a game must be on sale at your demand is ridiculous.

These are not things you want to understand, because you prefer outrage. You need the outrage. No explanation will calm your carefully cultivated rage. But Larian is not the villain you need it to be; you're just here to throw a fit and try to get some affirmation or a power trip. Or to threaten a company into bowing to your will. But you're not here to understand or "talk".

You might try sock puppetry, you know. Why leave it to others to back you up in your opinions? They might not do that for you! I suggest you open at least 3 or 4 other accounts so you can always tag-team people who don't show sufficient enthusiasm for your outbursts. You really need to lean the techniques -- so many others trolls have put more effort into their "campaigns" against a company's reputation. Really, you're being not just overly-sensitive but LAZY!

Poor kid.

Larian doesn't lock threads (another nice side to them -- they don't censor dissent even when it's an obvious troll), so this one will probably rage for bit before petering out. But as long as you have those sock puppet accounts, you can keep it going. Be strong, little troll! Wield that outrage! Create the illusion of importance and agreement!


(or, you could back off of the hostility and actually talk it out, if you really want to know Larian's reasons. The "Let's talk" topic could have been an opportunity, instead of a passive-aggressive technique to lead into an attack. If you really want to know, ask nicely. The devs here are pretty open about their reasons, and they engage the community members who are not just picking fights. Perceived troll vs genuinely concerned fan is very much a difference of attitude and behavior.)

[Democracy]

The time this would have been discounted the most would have been during the summer/winter sales. However Valve has final say on which games get into those sales. Not the devs or publishers. If you're going to complain at least do it in a mature way. When you say it like that it just turns into a bunch of people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at each other.'

I'd also like to mention that the devs releasing the enhanced edition for free is the exact OPPPOSITE of greedy business practice (Look at Dark Souls Scholar of the First Sin for an example of this same practice done in a greedy way). You're fine to have your own opinion but why not try to provide some actual criticism instead of just "I don't like this therefore the dev's are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥"

[iFrame]

Its funny how almost the same thread can be found in PoE forum section, but instead cussing on PoE and comparing to D:OS.

[The Relentless]

the epitome of retardation. there is a damn reason if a game made by a semi unnknown game studio founded by kickstarter became game of the year, is regardaed as THE symbol of what good can actually come out of kickstarter and contributed to brush off a big part of the suspect many people had regarding kickstarter in the first place, so mutch in fact that the sequel was founded AGAIN via kickstarter and was such a succesfoul campain they had to ADD more goals becouse the first batch of them was smashed in a couple days, and when they did people surpassed the higest amount of founding for the last goal AGAIN. If this is not enought to give you an indication of how mutch trust theese people gained with thier work from people you are retarded beyond salvation and poor deluded fool if you think you can make ANYONE hate or even dislike this company with your laughable claims. Plus this is the very first company i see in my life ( inlcuding uber rich triple A ones) that a year after the release of the first game make a COMPLETE overhaul of the game i purchased adding various things and than gift it to everyone who already has it insted of offering are spimle discount or outrght re-selling it as a new game,as everyone always do, wich is incredible in itself. don't misundersteand my words by the way in a world made by honest people and not thieves this would be the norm... thing is we do NOT live in that kind of world and reality is 99% of the devs theese days either are OR become thieves along the way, and people like Larian actually sticking to be decent and moral in theyr work ( so far at least ) have my money upfront on principle alone.

you are the only disgrace i can see here.

[Wazat1]

Originally posted by Fi:

Its funny how almost the same thread can be found in PoE forum section, but instead cussing on PoE and comparing to D:OS.

The PoE and D:OS communities tend to get along just fine, from what I can tell. They have a lot in common. It's just a few trolls desperately trying to pick fights and claim they have the other community backing them. Plays out the same every time.

[Reeno]

Originally posted by Aphex:

Originally posted by Travathian:

Again, do you crybaby to Apple cause they don't sell iPhones at half price?

It's a valid argument. You are claiming that the dev is insulting you because they won't offer their goods at a discount. Do you treat all manufacturers of goods this way? Why would I discount my goods if people are more than willing to pay full price? When was the last time Minecraft went on sale?

Go take a basic economics course, you sound like a damned crybaby 12 year old.

I can buy iPhones second hand for cheap, I can also buy Minecraftaccounts for cheap.
Let me ask you a question. Would you buy a Pc from 2 years ago for the price of a current one?

One, discounted games are not used games.Two, hardware becomes obsolete over time, games do not. Three, have you ever heard of ♥♥♥ or steam trading?
Dumbass.
Divinity could NEVER go on sale and Larian would still be a non-profit organization compared to Ubisoft/EA/Square/2K.
Oh and let's ignore the free EE with the engine and gameplay overhaul and the fully voiced dialogues.
Like he said, crybaby 12 year old throwing a hissy fit.

[Sinister Footwear]

I hardly find someone or something offensive, but you Sir, you have gone above and beyond.

[The Relentless]

Originally posted by Foxxylicious:

Originally posted by Aphex:

Ubisoft/EA/Square/2K.

my GOD do not EVER name those misbegotten spawns of the devils devs here again. i felt dirty in my soul only by reading them