How to play as Britian / PE?

[Taking A Break]

So basically i only have Vanilla CoH, And when in a lobby if i try to use Britian or Panzer Elite in the nation selection tab it gives me a message saying that to play that unit i need to purcahse Company of Heroes : Tales of valour,

So i went into the steam store and checked out Tales of Valour and it mentioned nothing about Britain / Panzer Elite, yet if you go into the Company Of Heroes : Opposing Fronts it says it will give you Panzer and Britian.

So my question is, Which one do i buy? Or do i NEED both?, Just confused because the store says i need to buy Opposing fronts to play as Britain and PE yet ingame tells me i need to have Tales Of Valour.

I dont care about any campaigns and stuff, I litteraly just want to be able to play Britain / PE in skirmish and multiplayer (In BlitzKrieg Mod), So what DLC do i need to be able to do that?

Cheers for any help!

[Mak]

In order to play with GB and PE you have to purchase Opposing Fronts.

Tales of Valour just adds 3 mini campaigns (Tiger Ace, Causeway and Falaise Pocket), and some new units usable in multiplayer:
The Staghound and Kagaroo for Brits.
The Schwimmwagen and the Hotchkiss H35 for PE.
Another Schwimmwagen and the H39 Geschützwagen (a conversion of captured H39 Hotchkiss tanks into a self-propelled tank destroyer), and Voss' special Tiger I for Wehrmacht.
The M18 Hellcat and T17 Armored Car for the US.

Opposing fronts adds 2 new single player campaigns : The liberation of Caen (GB) and Operation Market Garden (PE) and the possibility to play both GB & PE in multiplayer.

IMHO, the best is to buy Opposing Fronts instead of Tales of Valour (i got both)
Hope that it helped ;)

[Mak]

Btw, if you like the "Blitzkrieg Mod" (which i like too), you will love the "Europe At War" mod, which is basically the same as Blitzkrieg but also adds a lot of maps and new units, and brand new maps such Africa maps, in which you will play with the right units for this period (for instance, if you play Tobrouk, you will have the British and German DAK units of 1942, which is really fun and realistic).
You can find it on Moddb!

[Taking A Break]

Cheers buddy!, Great info just what i needed ;)

[Mak]

You're welcome :)

[Bos]

Originally posted by Makarov:

In order to play with GB and PE you have to purchase Opposing Fronts.

Tales of Valour just adds 3 mini campaigns (Tiger Ace, Causeway and Falaise Pocket), and some new units usable in multiplayer:
The Staghound and Kagaroo for Brits.
The Schwimmwagen and the Hotchkiss H35 for PE.
Another Schwimmwagen and the H39 Geschützwagen (a conversion of captured H39 Hotchkiss tanks into a self-propelled tank destroyer), and Voss' special Tiger I for Wehrmacht.
The M18 Hellcat and T17 Armored Car for the US.

Opposing fronts adds 2 new single player campaigns : The liberation of Caen (GB) and Operation Market Garden (PE) and the possibility to play both GB & PE in multiplayer.

IMHO, the best is to buy Opposing Fronts instead of Tales of Valour (i got both)
Hope that it helped ;)

Nope wrong tales of valor has the rewards menu and gives u the special factions so if u want a hell cat u buy tales of valor oppsing fronts does give u the factions but the the vehicles so get tales of valor it gives u both the factions and the reward vehicles

[SLM]

Originally posted by Tecionix:

Originally posted by Makarov:

In order to play with GB and PE you have to purchase Opposing Fronts.

Tales of Valour just adds 3 mini campaigns (Tiger Ace, Causeway and Falaise Pocket), and some new units usable in multiplayer:
The Staghound and Kagaroo for Brits.
The Schwimmwagen and the Hotchkiss H35 for PE.
Another Schwimmwagen and the H39 Geschützwagen (a conversion of captured H39 Hotchkiss tanks into a self-propelled tank destroyer), and Voss' special Tiger I for Wehrmacht.
The M18 Hellcat and T17 Armored Car for the US.

Opposing fronts adds 2 new single player campaigns : The liberation of Caen (GB) and Operation Market Garden (PE) and the possibility to play both GB & PE in multiplayer.

IMHO, the best is to buy Opposing Fronts instead of Tales of Valour (i got both)
Hope that it helped ;)

Nope wrong tales of valor has the rewards menu and gives u the special factions so if u want a hell cat u buy tales of valor oppsing fronts does give u the factions but the the vehicles so get tales of valor it gives u both the factions and the reward vehicles

Opposing Fronts gives the factions iirc - not ToV.

[Mak]

ToV only gives the 3 mini-campaigns and the reward vehicles.
Opposing Fronts gives the 2 "big" campagins for Brits & PE, as well as the possibility to play as Brit & PE in multiplayer.
It was like that for the retail version, and like I didn't bought any CoH on Steam I don't know if they did any modification on the packages, but I don't think so.

[Taking A Break]

Wait, so much controversy going on here, Can anyone tell me for definate which one i need to get to play PE / Britain?

Is it Tales Of Valour or Opposing fronts?

[PuttyGod]

Originally posted by ManxToTheMaximum:

Wait, so much controversy going on here, Can anyone tell me for definate which one i need to get to play PE / Britain?

Is it Tales Of Valour or Opposing fronts?

Okay, so this is the overall situation. Most posts here have had one or two things correct, with the rest being wrong, but I'll try now.

When released, Company of Heroes 1 included the campaign content and you could play as the US or the Wehrmacht.
When Opposing Fronts INITIALLY came out, (meaning, before the franchise was on Steam), it added the two campaigns (Brit and PE) and gave you those two factions (British and PE) to play with in Multiplayer. It was a technically a standalone expansion, so think of it like CoH2's WFA expansion, only it included campaigns as well. So you could play with the whole CoH1 community, but you could only play as either the British or the PE, unless you had the original game installed.

When Tales of Valor came out, it was kind of the oddball expansion. It featured the mini campaigns, including the one where you only control the Elite Tiger Ace from Kampfgruppe Lehr. So it took that micro approach, and you managed everything about your tank and followed the Ace (Voss) through his little story. At the same time, it added a few units to all four of the previous factions, and did not add any other teams. I don't recall what kind of access you had to the CoH multiplayer segment, if there was any (ToV was standalone, too).

SO, at this point in time, most of us have "Company of Heroes (New Steam Version) in our library instead of straight up "Comapany of Heroes," and I noticed that I also have a Steam version of ToV. My physical copy of Opposing Fronts wouldn't register on Steam, if I recall, but for a most of the time, it was still installed, just not in Steam. Right now, I believe that if you have CoH "New Steam Version" and own Tales of Valor, you actually do have access to all four factions (perhaps because the additional units from ToV wouldn't work if you didn't have the OF factions, and it needed to maintain its "Standalone" status, by not requiring the previous games to use all of its content.
So long story short, I had CoH NSV and ToV installed on Steam at one point, and I believe whether I had OF installed or not, I was still able to use the four factions. Even when launching CoH1 (not OF or ToV) I would get the ToV image while loading it up.

Hopefully this helps. It's hard to be sure about this kind of weird dynamic.
PS - it's a shame you didn't grab CoH Complete for $9 yesterday on gmg.com (or... maybe you did, since your last post was on the 3rd). Everything except for some of the second game's commanders and skins was on sale 66-75% off. WFA was only $6... Which kind of felt like a slap in the face to loyal day one players, but, I digress.
Hope everything worked (or will work) out for you.

[Miiiiiiiiiiiiike]

I'm pretty sure that Tales of Valor offered 3 mini campaigns, all factions in multiplayer/skirmish and reward units as well as the multiplayer 'operations'.

So, if you want the whole multiplayer experience in one package, get ToV. As you just want 2 factions, it will be cheaper to get Opposing Fronts. Sure you won't get the reward units (they are not that great) but you will get slightly longer campaigns.

Originally posted by PuttyGod:

So long story short, I had CoH NSV and ToV installed on Steam at one point, and I believe whether I had OF installed or not, I was still able to use the four factions. Even when launching CoH1 (not OF or ToV) I would get the ToV image while loading it up.

You don't need any CoH titles installed except for the New Steam Version. The New Steam Version is in a different folder to the other CoH titles so has no interactions with the old files. It's just if you have the games sitting in your library, your New Steam Version should detect that, and have the corresponding content unlocked for you. Any CoH title has all the files for every CoH game, how else could (back in the day) someone with vanilla coh play against someone who just has Opposing Fronts? Because all the games have everything in them already, you just need to buy the CoH titles to unlock the content.

[cookin' something fierce]

Alright, so. If you buy Tales of Valor, you get all factions, TOV missions and reward units. If you buy OF, you get OF missions and both factions.

[RemoteLeg]

I bought the original COH for PC then later bought Tales of Valor. I never bought Opposing Fronts.

Tales of Valor gave me Brits, PE, all the extra units described above, and the three extra campaigns (Tiger Ace, etc.).
When I switched over to the Steam Version everything came with me.

So in my opinion you should buy Tales of Valor.

[OldMemes.biz]

Years ago I bought the full CoH pack here on Steam, that is, Vanilla plus OF and ToV, right away all at once. Flash forward to when Relic stopped supporting it and Steam took over, and my New Steam Version" included OF and ToV right away. I suppose because it recognized I purchased them years ago.

Anyway it's nice to play online again but it's nothing like it used to be :(