Short question about this game (not really short, though)

[Luzilyo]

So, many years ago, i have played a game called "codename panzers - phase one"
in that game, what i enjoyed very much was the unique way of handling my army: during missions, troops would level up (or die, if managed too carelessly) and between missions i got money to buy some additional troops. then, the next mission, i started with the troops that survived the previous mission plus the ones that i bought.

now, unfortunately, the game does not work anymore, probably because the outdated copyright-protection software cannot be executed properly on newer windows os's. this brings me to my question: should i purchase this game? if it has the same mechanics when dealing with my army, i will definitely prefer buying this over codename panzers, simply because i refuse to pay again for something that i already bought. if it does not have the same mechanics, i think i will just re-accuire codename panzers again.

also, if you know any other game with those mechanics, help would also be appreciated. yesterday i already posted a similar thread in the forums of codename panzers, but so far i have not gotten any response, this is why i ask here again. i want a game where i can choose what units i want to use and where i care about all of them, not just for a single mission but for the whole campaign.

edit: well, turns out the post got a bit longer than it was supposed to. oh well, whatever, i guess. lol

[ConMeo]

You could check the game Original War

[Luzilyo]

that looks very interesting, thanks for the tip.

[Arcamis]

Coh is very unique. Units are improved by givining them veterancy (+dmg +acc -dmgReceived etc) which can be earned for individual units by fighting, or groups of units while fighting, buying that for group of units and by lieutnants and captains that each give a point of veterency to units in an area (the way veterancy is gained is faction specific). Units also have upgrades (BAR rifles, grenades etc).

Point is veterancy is the only thing that equals improved units. There is no carryover mechanism cause there is none needed (it wouldn't make the game better in any way, only worse cause it doesn't fit the style). Though there might be an exception. In one mission the units you had at the end will be used for the next one. It was I think mission 3-4 (first one you conquer a town and in the 2nd you defend it).

Coh is very cheap durning promotions (5 euro max for everything).

Also this game is very dependent on micro. Different units act so much differently in terms of movement and positioning.

[Richartonio]

Arcamis painted an accurate description of the veterancy in Company of Heroes. The core experience of CoH is in competitive multiplayer, so naturally carrying veteran units from other matches doesn´t happen. The campaign, however, does allow you to redeploy veteran units from previous levels, but not always.

That being said, veterancy is a very important concept in CoH, and is something that makes units relevant throughout, not just in the first few minutes of the game.

A green unit of Riflemen is completely different from grizzly Vet III Riflemen, just to give an example.

Each of the four factions have their own way of implementing veterancy:

US: the most "standard" way. You units kill, and thus they gain veterancy. They receive powerful offensive bonuses and some good defensive bonuses aswell.

Panzer Elite: like the US, they gain veterancy by eliminating the opposition, but now the veterancy can be shared: units in close proximity to the one who dealt the killing blow gain a bit of XP, just like an assist in Call of Duty. Furthermore, the Panzer Elite can choose to specialize either in Offensive or Defensive veterancy, at the player´s discretion.

British: regular British units do not gain veterancy. Instead, their command units do: the Lieutenants, the Captain and the Cromwell Command Tank. Thus, you may lose your units, but as long as you preserve your commanders, you can shuffle around your experienced leaders as you see fit.

Wehrmacht: they rely on a different concept entirely, mainly the requisition of veteran, crack and elite soldiers from more experienced units, akin to redeploying Eastern Front veterans to France. For a hefty cost, the Wehrmacht can "buy" its veterancy, just like Niki Lauda bought an experienced racing team.

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About your original question: If you are looking for a game with persistent units that evolve over time, try Close Combat II, III, IV or V.

[Luzilyo]

thanks for the info, i will check out the mentioned games and also keep in mind what you said about this game when i consider my next game purchase.