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Proud Uropean 5月12日 10時14分
Early access is great , isnt it?
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Theophrastus 5月12日 10時21分 
This wasn't an Early Access game. Early Access didn't even exist when this came out. It got greenlit and the dev immediately threw it up on the store purporting it to be a finished game.
SupprtGamerGate! 5月12日 10時52分 
Theophrastus の投稿を引用:
This wasn't an Early Access game. Early Access didn't even exist when this came out. It got greenlit and the dev immediately threw it up on the store purporting it to be a finished game.

It's Early Access.
Just no one has coined the term yet.. doesn't mean it's not Early Access.
That is pretty dumb even for early access piggie nooblets.
diggychillin 5月12日 11時03分 
lolibus 5月12日 11時15分 
It's a shame, when I look at that kotaku screenshot, I really like how the tree's look, with their juicy fruits :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oen-TZGGEjw
Bullzi 5月12日 11時18分 
wtf did i buy this game TT
SupprtGamerGate! 5月12日 11時49分 
Bullzi の投稿を引用:
wtf did i buy this game TT
Coz you thought it was okay to pay for ♥♥♥♥ that hasn't been done coz you wanted to "support" the developers.
Coz it's your ♥♥♥♥ing money and no one dares tell you what you can do with it.
Coz once you spent your money you will defend your purchase forever.
Coz it was NOT stupid to pay for unfinished things
But mostly Coz.. you will do it again without a second thought
Mainly Coz Early Access doesn't cheat people.. It's bad People that cheat people.
Only way to handle a Bad guy with Early Access is to get Good Guys with Early Access.
*Sad Game of Thrones music here*
drakonz 5月12日 12時18分 
KennyDiesAtTheEnd の投稿を引用:
Bullzi の投稿を引用:
wtf did i buy this game TT
Coz you thought it was okay to pay for ♥♥♥♥ that hasn't been done coz you wanted to "support" the developers.
Coz it's your ♥♥♥♥ing money and no one dares tell you what you can do with it.
Coz once you spent your money you will defend your purchase forever.
Coz it was NOT stupid to pay for unfinished things
But mostly Coz.. you will do it again without a second thought
Mainly Coz Early Access doesn't cheat people.. It's bad People that cheat people.
Only way to handle a Bad guy with Early Access is to get Good Guys with Early Access.
*Sad Game of Thrones music here*
many people actualy throught they were paying for finished product since nothing in store page stated it was still in development space
Riflebird 5月12日 14時41分 
This is worse than Early Access because it was released BEFORE Early Access even existed. Thus the original devs claimed that it was a finished product, which is obvious now that it was a bunch of lies.

Valve needs to give refunds on this scam, then sue the devs for false advertising.
Solo Solitaire (禁止済) 5月12日 15時05分 
Not early access, it's fraud.
thorin106 5月13日 11時10分 
Unfortuately, Early Access to me is "Let the Buyer Beware" , the abandonment of Towns(so glad I did not invest) shows the dark side of investing in early Access or even Greenlighting. Justifying not giving a refund because people got thier fun out of the game is crappy because the game is not finished as it was promised to be after it is finished. Games that are offered like this should have a statement that the customer must be aware of that when buying into these type of games there is a chance the game may not reach a finished state or if there will be a refund or no refund if that happens and in this case there is not such statement and I believe alll should be entitled to a refund regardless of what state the game is in.
Ama Ki Ellikayara 5月14日 0時55分 
This wasn't an early access game. Are people this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid?
= 5月14日 13時21分 
Solo Solitaire の投稿を引用:
Not early access, it's fraud.

Why is it fraud? Do you or do you not own a game called Towns? Does it or does it not conform to the original premise, approximately?

People really need to think before they post. Far too much hystiera and not enough rationality.

Early access, which is what this essentially is, is an inherently risky purchase; you are buying a game that may reach a finished state and it may be what you expect and it may even be good; you are most definately not buying a finished game and there is no guarantee that roadmaps will be stuck to. Anyone who doesn't understand this is simply naive. Its almost as bad as the people who take the promises of kickstarter projects at face value.
Solo Solitaire (禁止済) 5月14日 17時14分 
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Solo Solitaire の投稿を引用:
Not early access, it's fraud.

Why is it fraud? Do you or do you not own a game called Towns? Does it or does it not conform to the original premise, approximately?

People really need to think before they post. Far too much hystiera and not enough rationality.

Early access, which is what this essentially is, is an inherently risky purchase; you are buying a game that may reach a finished state and it may be what you expect and it may even be good; you are most definately not buying a finished game and there is no guarantee that roadmaps will be stuck to. Anyone who doesn't understand this is simply naive. Its almost as bad as the people who take the promises of kickstarter projects at face value.
Man, what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

It's fraud because the unethical developer decided he didn't want to finish the game (which is a far cry from deciding it was finished) and then FRAUDULENTLY claimed the game was finished, even though it's exactly the same as the game he called ALPHA yesterday, thereby DEFRAUDING people into making a purchase.

People really need to think before they post. Far too much hystiera and not enough rationality.
Riflebird 5月14日 19時56分 
It is fraud because when it came out on steam it was touted as a complete game. That, it turns out, was not the case. The original devs lied and put out a broken, unfinished product. They either need to give back the money they conned customers or be taken to court and fined/jailed.
= 5月14日 23時05分 
Solo Solitaire の投稿を引用:
Man, what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

I see you are another quality poster. Its no wonder that the Steam forums have such a high reputation.

In order for this to be fraud it would have to be proven, good luck with that. There is literally no chance that this would result in a succesful prosecution for fraud and its highly doubtful that Steam will give a refund because its Steam.

I'm not defending xavi's actions but a sense of perspective is a wonderful thing.


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