Disappointed by Contagion, back to ZPS!

[Tokenmancer]

The devs let their fans down by making some crappy generic L4D copy instead of giving ZPS the sequel it deserves! ZPS is about barricading and cooperation, Contagion is about ammo hoarding and believing you're in L4D

[[AUS] Midnight]

You only played 8.7 hours on Contagion, it is early access and has ALOT more potental than some of the other so called zombie games out there.

There is going to be lots of updates in the next month and a half for preparation of their official release on the 11th April 2014.

Play the game some more, it really is fun to play.

[Hex: Loam]

So, another person who thinks this, dont worry, you are not alone Velve dude! I tried telling them whats wrong with the game and how to fix it to cater both fans, but I got abuse back, If they dont update zps, they should just give the rights to another team, that way the game still gets updates and it keeps zps fans happy, if i got money for everytime i have heard fans on this game say they are disapointed i would be a very rich person. yea contagion has potential, indeed it does and I wish them the best of luck, but currently I will stick to zps as alot of us have been playing since zp1 and contagion doesnt even feel like a sucessor, hopfully they can change this in the future, The graphics are nice and the animations are brilliant, but the soul and feeling of the game feel stale and boring and not as exciting as zombie panic, the zombie gameplay is terrible in contagion and needs a serious rework, now the thing that contagion shines in is the hunted game mode, this is actually fun as the PvP is satisfying and feels scary as you never know where others are and when you hear that phone vibrate, ♥♥♥♥ gets serious, so if you like PvP games I suggest it for that, if you liked zombie panic's zombie gameplay and flow, avoid at all costs as you will be extremely pissed off, its no secret I dislike it as I post alot about this in hope of change, but it never happens. I tend to upset people because they cant take criticism, I only speak what so many come in my server and discuss when I bring the subject up, its got the point where I really dont care at all as somthing needs to be said, but no one dares to speak there mind because they are subjected to ridicule and slander for doing so, not me, I will speak what so many feel, have a nice day.

[Tokenmancer]

I gave the game a serious chance but it let me down, gameplay falls short in terms of fun VERY fast. It's too repetitive, and there is no sens of progression/skill acquisition.
In ZPS you get to learn how to barricade faster/more effectively, that cooperation is the key to survival - qualities that you would expect to be needed in a real outbreak. Contagion is nothing like that, it feels like a limping L4D rip off.
You might think that this only reflects my opinion of the game, but take a look at how old the ZP community is: most of us are here SINCE HL1 and still play ZPS for it's uniqueness! We're in 2014 and i'm posting here because I feel heartbroken by the direction Contagion has chosen to go in. ZP's gameplay is unique and high quality enough which is the hardest part of building an excellent game, all that it needed was a graphic update, some minor tweaks and maybe some advertising!
The poster above me is right in saying that if they don't care about ZPS anymore, devs should hand the keys to those who actually still do.

[Tabajara]

Don't put all fault on ZPS Dev Team.
Again, it's totally different team compared to Contagion Team, just 2 or 3 guys from ZPS Dev Team are on the Contagion Team now.
And you guys need to understand this is a free mod since 2007, lot of free-work was given by a lot of people with good skills (Programming, Level Design, Modelers, Sounds and etc.), of course free mods will have their up and down moments, it's normal, anyone here is receiving any money to make this HL2 mod still alive since 2007.
Dunno if you guys known about this info but our programmer Sammy is busy with his real life right now, and we can't do quitly nothing without a good programmer to work and fix currently bugs and 'to-do' list to release ZPS 2.5 for public.

We can't just 'give the rights to some strange people-fan base' like that, that's not 'how the things works' - it's like "Fans asking Valve to give their powers/tools to other people and let them make Half-Life 3. Wouldn't be the same HL game if made by other people/group.
I appreciate all the contributors that have leave their work to ZPS and i see how good this mod is yet!
Applications are open for any one if want to apply to the Dev Team, for now only 'as Playtesters' is closed. You're more than welcome to apply, now don't say such words like that to the Dev Team.
I'm just a Playtester and community mapper for ZPS and i love to do this. I can understand that 'real life/real work' is more important than this 'hobby-free time' for this mod.

Contagion is not a mod, it's a game, people really work in there to make anything possible for that game be good and get some attention.
Maybe when they full release that game, they might probably give a hand on ZPS soon.
What i can say to you now is wait.

[↑ncreaser™]

Velve, welcome to the brotherhood. We need to start a petition. The problems stem completely from the game modes not being as engaging or as fun as ZPS. Devs have said that are only hope of getting these game modes back is when the modders get a crack at the game. I hope this happens very soon.

Oh ya, the phone vibration locator thingy is absolutely horrendous. Very lame.

[MindRiot]

I can respect that you don't like Contagion but its nothing like a left 4 dead clone except its got zombies and a group of survivors that statment is just wrong imo. Contagion is a realism focused zombie survival horror game which isnt a kill every thing that isnt you or the other three of you unlike L4D which is an arcade gun and run with coop and zombies. Also the developers did not wish to make Contagion ZPS 2 and features less of a focus or player zombies again it isn't ZPS. While i do wish ZPS would get an update soon i have to say i love both games and you really can't compare them as they are quite different from each other as they designed Contagion to be.

[↑ncreaser™]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SC}The Sinister Exaggerator:

I can respect that you don't like Contagion but its nothing like a left 4 dead clone except its got zombies and a group of survivors that statment is just wrong imo. Contagion is a realism focused zombie survival horror game which isnt a kill every thing that isnt you or the other three of you unlike L4D which is an arcade gun and run with coop and zombies. Also the developers did not wish to make Contagion ZPS 2 and features less of a focus or player zombies again it isn't ZPS. While i do wish ZPS would get an update soon i have to say i love both games and you really can't compare them as they are quite different from each other as they designed Contagion to be.

The modders will fix Contagion and save the world. I agree that comparing Contagion to L4D is not fair. Contagion is not that bad. Contagion's multiplayer is much better and does not have as much of an arcade feel. Escape is fantastic. I love escape but I wish I could have a ZPS-like multiplayer experience in some of the other game modes.

[Tatsur0]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Velve:

The devs let their fans down by making some crappy generic L4D copy instead of giving ZPS the sequel it deserves! ZPS is about barricading and cooperation, Contagion is about ammo hoarding and believing you're in L4D

The "Devs" = Me as the rest of Contagion (Alex did handle animations for awhile on ZPS) is developed by professionals who never worked on ZPS.

Sorry you think our game is crappy but it is soooo far remove from L4D that is a ridiculous claim.

So you're upset we didn't give you ZPS2 (Promised I'd never charge you guys and we need to make a living) right away and that seems to be the real issue. Contagion is more so about barricading and cooperation which is nearly forced on you while in ZPS ppl run around solo way too often unless barricaded in one of the 2hour custom maps that took over and scared away most ZP:S fans heh.

Once again I'm sorry we didn't make the game you wanted and that being clear we weren't wasn't enough thus leading to your disappointment. I hope you'll check it out on full release but if you're not interested in Contagion anymore when the time is right ZPS will get it's love :)

[↑ncreaser™]

I believe that a proper ZPS sequel would sell just as many copies as Contagion.

[MindRiot]

I dissagree that a ZPS sequel would sell any where near as many copies as it caters to less of an audience. In Contagion caters for those who like PVP type of game and the Coop. ZPS also hasn't got enough of a fanbase imo to sell many copies i feel it would be best if they continue updating and port to Source 2013 engine base.

[↑ncreaser™]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SC}The Sinister Exaggerator:

I dissagree that a ZPS sequel would sell any where near as many copies as it caters to less of an audience. In Contagion caters for those who like PVP type of game and the Coop. ZPS also hasn't got enough of a fanbase imo to sell many copies i feel it would be best if they continue updating and port to Source 2013 engine base.

A proper ZPS sequel could add in plenty of PVP in addition to what is already loved about ZPS. The more game modes the better.

ZPS is advertised as the most played HL2 mod ever and so the fan base in plentiful. ZPS' popularity is clearly what is selling so many copies of Contagion. Add the marketing of Steam Greenlight with ZPS' success, and it is an easy sell. In fact, a lot of us bought Contagion under the impression that it was going to be a ZPS successor.

Imagine that Contagion was exactly as it is now....except the game modes were all ZPS game modes. It would sell just the same as it is now obviously. Throw in a few new modes like extraction and escape...even better.

[MindRiot]

ZPS is also one of the oldest hl2 mods and no its not clear what is selling Contagion there are plenty of players who havent played ZPS or only played it a very small amount. Most players i come across know little about ZPS of course its difficult to judge and if you thought Contagion was ZPS succesor you were ignorant to the news posted by the developers specifically saying everytime asked that Contagion is not a ZPS sequel a spirtual succesor does not need to have much in common with the previous title for example System Shock is nothing like Bioshock except in a few mechanics which is the same for ZPS and Contagion. Also a final point if Contagion was just ZPS gamemodes then people would complain that what are they getting that a free mod can't give.

[↑ncreaser™]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SC}The Sinister Exaggerator:

ZPS is also one of the oldest hl2 mods and no its not clear what is selling Contagion there are plenty of players who havent played ZPS or only played it a very small amount. Most players i come across know little about ZPS of course its difficult to judge and if you thought Contagion was ZPS succesor you were ignorant to the news posted by the developers specifically saying everytime asked that Contagion is not a ZPS sequel a spirtual succesor does not need to have much in common with the previous title for example System Shock is nothing like Bioshock except in a few mechanics which is the same for ZPS and Contagion. Also a final point if Contagion was just ZPS gamemodes then people would complain that what are they getting that a free mod can't give.

It is true that I was not paying attention to the news in these forums about Contagion not being a sequel to ZPS. I understand and accept that.

You made a good point. There would be people complaining about Contagion if it were strictly ZPS modes. However, that is why I believe everyone would be open to new modes added in. I just feel that the ZPS modes were more fun and I would personally be more than willing to shell out money for a total ZPS facelift.

[VikingAlex]

"Contagion is more so about barricading" not really....in zombie panic source i used all kind of stuff to block my door, the destoyed wall...i really like to push stuff to block entrance...in Contagion you cant do that. Fix that in Contagion and i will be playing it again.

[Tokenmancer]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von VikingAlex:

"Contagion is more so about barricading" not really....in zombie panic source i used all kind of stuff to block my door, the destoyed wall...i really like to push stuff to block entrance...in Contagion you cant do that. Fix that in Contagion and i will be playing it again.

What that guy said