what happend to teamwork and survival?

[Negative Guy]

i join the only availibe game these 3 ♥♥♥♥STICKS DONT REALISE YOU HAVE A HEAL gun and just shot everything that came after them not even thinking about finding a barricaded place to wield wouldnt help me fight zeds coming behind us then wouldnt ♥♥♥♥ing heal me at 5HP then they help this other guy BUT WONT HEAL HIM WHEN HE WAS DYING SO I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ LOST MY SHOTGUN ON THE 2ND WAVE AND ALMOST DIED ON THE FIRST TO A BLOAT i was forced to face alone since they were 2 busy shooting clots and get this one of them also died to a bloat earlier with the GROUP then im going to guess they wouldnt have donated cash to me to buy another gun after they didnt do ♥♥♥♥ to help me

[RAMBO]

This is why:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=87378646

[Sergeant Giacomo]

Originally posted by RAMBO:

This is why:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=87378646

Zerkers = Mostly garbage.
Medics that only heals Zerker = Garbage.

[RAMBO]

I was referencing to players who use cheats, hacks, and leveling maps. They never learned the teamwork that is necessary for difficult matches. That's why the OP was having such a difficult match.
If you're familiar with the map displayed, Waterworks, there's no way up onto those pipes other than to haved used a hack.
Another example:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=676572754
The player in the snapshot is a level 4 zerk using a chainsaw to level on HOE. Notice he's completely surrounded and not taking any damage.

[Edify]

First comment thread hijack... Nice one Rambo.

OP, sounds like you were playing with new players. The problem is that most of the decent KF1 players that are still active play together and don't often play with randoms, so most new players, unless they were introduced to the game by someone else, are basically learning the game by themselves. Or even worse, they're learning bad habits from baddies with level 6 perks that choose to show off on normal difficulty and get their kicks that way rather than face a proper challenge.

Either way, there isn't a lot of mentoring going on like there would be with a newer game.

[GunsForBucks]

next time run up behind the zerk and heal him while "accidently" blocking the med darts shot at him, then fall back again... medics will often concentrate on one zerk due to missing dart detection.. running in front will make it easier for them to see and heal you quickly while still concentrating on the zerk. Also take any opportunity to heal the medic... should shame them into helping you in most cases

Was in a game yesterday on Forgotten where the zerk was down in front of some stairs and the medic was at the top. Whenever I needed heals I just went half way down the stairs and crouched so the medic could just lower his sights a little to heal me, then I would fall back into position. Worked great.

<Edit - side note... running up behind a berzerker and body blocking them really makes them unhappy... just do it once if you have to and they should figure out it is safer to keep you healed when you crouch in front of them>

[Negative Guy]

Originally posted by GunsForBucks:

next time run up behind the zerk and heal him while "accidently" blocking the med darts shot at him, then fall back again... medics will often concentrate on one zerk due to missing dart detection.. running in front will make it easier for them to see and heal you quickly while still concentrating on the zerk. Also take any opportunity to heal the medic... should shame them into helping you in most cases

Was in a game yesterday on Forgotten where the zerk was down in front of some stairs and the medic was at the top. Whenever I needed heals I just went half way down the stairs and crouched so the medic could just lower his sights a little to heal me, then I would fall back into position. Worked great.

<Edit - side note... running up behind a berzerker and body blocking them really makes them unhappy... just do it once if you have to and they should figure out it is safer to keep you healed when you crouch in front of them>

none of these guys bought heal guns or used the heal syringe gun

[FreeSpirit]

The trick is not to play with them. Let them be the way they want with each other. Find good people to play with. Words to live by.