Golden Emps Mar 8, 2015 @ 10:37am
Women in History DLC
http://steamcommunity.com/games/236850/announcements/detail/204124240049774312

The DLC will contain the following features:

>One Hundered new events for important women in history such as Queen Elizabeth I, Caterina Sforza and Sophie Germain.
>Female advisors can appear at your court in place of their male counterparts.
>Female portaits for all 22 advisor types in the game.

I do not like this first one. This is supposed to be an alt history sandbox game, so having events for real historical figures in the middle of a game that's presumably had an alternate history going back to the mid-1400's is completely immersion-breaking.

I really like the other two though.
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Kitten Food Mar 8, 2015 @ 3:03pm 
Originally posted by Ixal:
Originally posted by Reverend Belial:
Kinda like how Mulan would have ended had it not been a kid's movies.

You are aware that Mulan is based on a real story from China and that in that story she wasn't burned either?

Lol I know right? Love it when people try to use trump cards based on ignorance.

China also had exceptions to the "male only" club, the most famous being Wu Zetian (arguably the most powerful woman in history) and her female prime minister. Not to mention many of the Empress Dowagers who effictively were the de facto rulers of China, for better or worse (end of Imperial China).
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Reverend Belial Mar 8, 2015 @ 5:26pm 
Originally posted by Kite:
Originally posted by Ixal:

You are aware that Mulan is based on a real story from China and that in that story she wasn't burned either?

Lol I know right? Love it when people try to use trump cards based on ignorance.

China also had exceptions to the "male only" club, the most famous being Wu Zetian (arguably the most powerful woman in history) and her female prime minister. Not to mention many of the Empress Dowagers who effictively were the de facto rulers of China, for better or worse (end of Imperial China).

Actually:
A) I wasn't aware it was based on anything. I had always just thought it was a Disney thing.
B) I was just making a joke. It wasn't a political statement, or commentary on where women belong or whatever. Just poking fun at a Disney classic.
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Kitten Food Mar 8, 2015 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by Reverend Belial:
Originally posted by Kite:

Lol I know right? Love it when people try to use trump cards based on ignorance.

China also had exceptions to the "male only" club, the most famous being Wu Zetian (arguably the most powerful woman in history) and her female prime minister. Not to mention many of the Empress Dowagers who effictively were the de facto rulers of China, for better or worse (end of Imperial China).

Actually:
A) I wasn't aware it was based on anything. I had always just thought it was a Disney thing.
B) I was just making a joke. It wasn't a political statement, or commentary on where women belong or whatever. Just poking fun at a Disney classic.

Its okay, that is why I said "ignorance".

It isn't to say you are unintellegent, but you just didn't know. Ignorance isn't an insult, it is an awakening word. Up to the person to either own it and learn or to dig their heels and bark the same nonsense. I have plenty of ignorant moments as would anybody.

Plus I don't see how anything you said could be taken as a joke since you were not only mistaken on Mulan, but also Joan of Arc's history. It is just hard to make comments on a history game about history when most of the players are buffs on the subject. :mom:
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Moo Cow Mar 8, 2015 @ 6:21pm 
Figured this would be one of the few communities to complain about free DLC. I doubt it comes close to hampering your sandbox play as much as any other string of events. The way Paradox mixes real history into the laternate history you play has a pretty great balancce so you can get the best of both worlds. Doubt it will suddenly put anything on set paths more than usual. The DLC essentially adds more female prominence to the game and I'm sure Paradox of all people will keep it historically accurate when it comes to events(country army strengths are debatable).
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Radene Mar 8, 2015 @ 6:32pm 
This DLC doesn't fix the female titles for theocratic rulers. No female Ayatollah, no High Priestess, no Daughter of Heaven...they're all "archbishops" :(

I mean really.
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Wuddel Mar 8, 2015 @ 6:58pm 
I love free stuff. But the patch seems to have broken the colonizers. I played as Japan and in nearly 1600 America is untouched by the europeans.
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Moo Cow Mar 8, 2015 @ 7:02pm 
Originally posted by Wuddel:
I love free stuff. But the patch seems to have broken the colonizers. I played as Japan and in nearly 1600 America is untouched by the europeans.
Well the changes to exploration was supposed to slow down colonization and stuff, so maybe it's actually working in that regard.
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Lord General Nacho Mar 8, 2015 @ 7:46pm 
I think advisor portraits in general need an update. Playing as japan with a bunch of white dudes with japanese names for advisors makes no sense
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Superfly Mar 8, 2015 @ 10:46pm 
I would love to play as Ching Shih (female Chinese pirate) in a CK2 style setting, although obviously the date is a bit out. Not sure if it would be as interesting in a EU setting though. But, not to grumble, cant argue with the price of this DLC.



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Moo Cow Mar 8, 2015 @ 11:24pm 
Originally posted by Nachoguy5:
I think advisor portraits in general need an update. Playing as japan with a bunch of white dudes with japanese names for advisors makes no sense
Fortunately for you there's this. But yeah, the east needs some love for the next expansion or something.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=398932283&searchtext=
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[Q]uik Mar 8, 2015 @ 11:51pm 
Fun fact tho: There's lots of historical events in the game as it is
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Kitten Food Mar 9, 2015 @ 12:02am 
Originally posted by Quik:
Fun fact tho: There's lots of historical events in the game as it is

Yes there are a lot of dynamic pulse events, but not dynamic "historical" events. Only a few nations get many DHEs which leaves a lot that can be added to the game. I don't think you can have too many DHEs. They make playing in those areas more memorable than a generic no-dhe nation.

Top 10 Nations with DHEs:
1) Ming (almost 90 events)
2)Netherlands
3)France
4)Russia
5)Japan
6)England
7)Sweden
8)Spain
9)Austria
10)Venice (almost 40 events)


Only about 2 dozen other nations have a mix of 10-40 events and they are (surprise) mostly outside of Europe.

So there might be a lot of historical events in total, but it isn't spread out enough to feel a difference.
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Probably Lime Mar 9, 2015 @ 12:05am 
I'm a bit pissed off, since this broke my modded save games. They were only music mods, but now the game CTDs when I try to load them.

GG paradox.
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[Q]uik Mar 9, 2015 @ 12:10am 
Originally posted by WWKDLime:
I'm a bit pissed off, since this broke my modded save games. They were only music mods, but now the game CTDs when I try to load them.

GG paradox.
Odd, didn't break mine?
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Kitten Food Mar 9, 2015 @ 12:49am 
Unfortunately you cant turn off updates permanently anymore in steam, but you can delay updates by setting them to only happen when you launch the game. This gives you a chance to revert to a previous patch after updating.

Music mods are easy to update on your own btw. Just right click on the .mod file and edit in text editor or whatever. Just change the version to the current one. Takes 5 seconds.

GG overreaction
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