ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

Classic Flyers
Ertosi  [developer] Apr 4, 2017 @ 3:50pm
Compatible/Incompatible Mods
Because this is such a hot topic, I'm creating a new hub for it and merging similar threads here.

Please refer to this list before posting similar comments of Mod "X" working or not working. And remember that it is this mods policy that should not be used with other mods which also alter flyer files, nor do I consider mod incompatibility to be a bug.

Confirmed Compatible Mods
  • Any building mod, stacking mod (minus any which might stack flyer eggs), or item mod (which do not directly interact with flyer dinos).
  • All core maps: The Island, The Center, Scorched Earth, etc.
  • Any maps which do not alter the core flyer files, add new flyers or flyer variants, or greatly alter the core spawner files.
  • Death Recovery - tested by Scotland April 2nd, 2017
  • Redwood Feeding Trough - tested by Scotland April 2nd, 2017
  • Omnicular - tested by Scotland April 2nd, 2017
  • Taming Info Buddies - tested by Scotland April 2nd, 2017
  • Premium baby Care - tested by Scotland April 2nd, 2017
  • Egg n' Poop collector - test by Shaylon April 4th, 2017
  • Pet Finder - test by Shaylon April 4th, 2017
  • Super Spyglass - tested by multiple players April 6th, 2017
  • Homing Pigeon - tested by multiple players April 6th, 2017
  • AG Wyverns - Gaia Callisto April 9th, 2017 (It only adds wyvern classes to The Island spawners, so its compatible)
  • Wyvern Nests Plus - Wyvern Nests Plus has been recently updated to directly spawn in eggs of the correct dino classes. No more server reboots needed! Thank you Darklord for your hard work.
  • Simple Spawners: Allows you to create spawners for any dinos, anywhere on a map. With Classic Flyers, any core-game flyers spawned in will be able to level speed.

Confirmed Incompatible Mods
This is by no means a complete list of incompatible mods; this list is merely some of the more popular mods which have been confirmed incompatible. Concerning any others you might be curious of, please read this mod's and the other's Descriptions and use a little discretion.
  • Any mod which also alters flyers and their fertilized eggs. Two mods which alter the same files are not compatible and cannot be compatible. One will always overwrite the other.
  • Any mod which adds new flyers or flyer variants would be incompatible with this mod. Most of said mods would still work independently of this mod, but there is no way this mod could affect their flyers.
  • Any mod which only directly affects vanilla dinos. Classic Flyers are not vanilla dinos.
  • Mods or maps which alter the core-game spawner files could cause said mod or map to not be compatible.
  • Wyvern Mating-Classic Flyers Compatible - This mod's instructions include deleting files from Classic Flyers. I do not, will not, consider any mod which asks users to delete files from Classic Flyers to be compatible. Doing so breaks all of their Classic Flyer features. Breeding them might work, but everything else about them will be broken.
  • Scorched Earth Plus - Despite past attempts of Blitzfire and Kiety to make the two mod's compatible, there are still reports of overspawns/underspawns of wyvern eggs when using the two mods together. I consider using the two mods together "use at your own risk". As CF merely remaps flyers and their eggs, nothing can be done to make them more compatible on CF's end.
  • Fertilized Eggs Naturally Spawn - A big warning on this one! While very cool, to do what it does, it changes vanilla tames into a new class in a way that makes them incompatible (nonbreedable) with regular vanilla tames and players have reported not being able to remove the mod without the game crashing. Its mod author is working to correct the issue, but even then, I firmly suggest not using this mod with any other which also alters vanilla dinos.
  • Annunaki Genesis - can be made partially compatible by running Classic Flyers first and Annunaki Genesis second; will fix the vanilla flyers but cannot help the alphas or others unique to AG; see notes below. Also, as of around April 17th, I'm told AG's most recent patch denerf'd all of their own flyers.
  • Extinction Core - Another mod which alters vanilla creature files and adds its own. I really shouldn't have to list each mod which obviously does this as this mod repetedly states its incompatible with all mods which do so, but people keep asking.
  • Immersive Taming - Uses buffs to remap Vanilla dinos, so it does nothing for Classic Flyers.
  • ARK Eternal - Its got loads of cool original creatures. This mod only affects vanilla flyers. Not compatible. (Update June 25, 2017: Just got a message from its devs. It was considered only partially incompatible before but they're in the process of remapping all the stuff in it and now consider it fully incompatible.)
  • Volcano Map - Incompatible due to it having unique creature classes which this mod would not be able to affect. (Latest Notes as of April 29: The Official Volcano PVP server is running both mods together and say they work great without having to do anything special. Here's a link to their steam group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/EthosModded )
  • Dino Colors Plus (uses its own creature files, therefore directly incompatible)
  • Wyverns Plus - confirmed incompatible by jrc1967 April 4th, 2017
  • Breedable Creatures Bundle - confirmed incompatible March 2nd, 2018.

Please see this repost concerning combining this mod with Annunaki. Its promising but needs more Science! from players.
Originally posted by GigaBytes:
well one thing i noticed doing testing is. Annunaki is meant to be in slot 1. but that way your mod would not work with ark dinos. So to test i made your mod in slot one and annunaki slot 2. And it worked fine for ark dinos like it should. Only thing i noticed not working in annunaki like that is the hatchet and pick not showing in inventory on new chars. No big deal.


I will not add every mod to this list. I will only add hot topic, asked-of-too-often mods to this list as well as maps and mods which interact with flyer dinos in a manner which could understandably go either way.

I <3 <3 <3 Leutian Kane's comment below.
Last edited by Ertosi; Jun 24 @ 2:43am
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kurgan2 Apr 2, 2017 @ 5:07am 
Working mods
Note: I am not affiliated with the mod, just put this post up after seeing a number of other players having trouble running Classic Flyers and figured it might help them.

Started a new Island map and survivor, mod works as the only mod. Added Scorched Earth Plus, destroyed wild dinos then tamed a moth, speed was levelable. Will list further mods as I try them, will be doing a destroywilddinos after I add each mod to make sure everything spawns properly.

Base - Works
Scorched Earth Plus - Works
Annunaki Genesis - Does not work - The previously tamed Ptera could still train speed. Ptera and Moth trained after a destroywilddinos command both could not train speed.
Wyvern Mating - With Scorched Earth Plus on the Island map, ptera worked, could not find wild wyvern, so summoned using the spawn codes listed for this mod, could not train because I could not get an inventory option at all, so there's some trouble there.

Tested by Scotland:

Stack More
Structures Plus
Death Recovery
Redwood Feeding Trough
Omnicular
Taming Info Buddies
RAWR Beacons
Premium baby Care


That's it for now, don't think any of my building mods are likely to cause trouble.
Last edited by kurgan2; Apr 3, 2017 @ 2:46am
THeFaLLeN Apr 2, 2017 @ 6:34am 
Hi Kurgan. When I get a new Wyvern Egg I cant enter the Inventory of the Wyvern and I cant level up the Speed. Im using the SE Plus mod too. What do i need to do.
Scotland Apr 2, 2017 @ 1:56pm 
@kurgan2 Please add the following mods to the OP, as they also work alongside this mod:

Stack More
Structures Plus
Death Recovery
Redwood Feeding Trough
Omnicular
Taming Info Buddies
RAWR Beacons
Premium Baby Care

@Fallen If you read the central comments discussion to this mod you will see this issue and understand it. This thread looks like its just for working mods...
Tednik Apr 3, 2017 @ 1:42am 
anyone know if this works with dino colors plus
-=SpAwN=- Apr 3, 2017 @ 3:59am 
Annunaki Genesis - Does not work - The previously tamed Ptera could still train speed. ??

what does this mean --> The previously tamed Ptera could still train speed
kurgan2 Apr 3, 2017 @ 5:01am 
The Pteradon I had before the patch could still put points in speed, but new ones could not. Some kind of strange interaction between mods and ARK, I would guess
-=SpAwN=- Apr 3, 2017 @ 5:10am 
ah .
so this mod does not work with annunaki genesis :(
Leutian Kane Apr 3, 2017 @ 3:22pm 
ok people REALLY need to pay attention to the YELLOW puzzle piece on the mod icon, it means it's only partially stackable, so if another mod edits the same files whichever one is first in load order will take precedence. That doesnt mean this mod is broken or unuseable, it simply means that it won't work correctly with core mods that require first load spot or any other mod that edits the same files being loaded before it.
Valentinez Apr 3, 2017 @ 3:44pm 
I have Annunaki, it's working for me, [new tames at least]
On mine However,
Old Tames still cannot level speed,
And the New Tames do not work with the Homing Pigeon Mod
-=SpAwN=- Apr 3, 2017 @ 4:49pm 
@ Valentinez
thats great news , as im planning to use it on an annunaki server . thanks for the info.
-=SpAwN=- Apr 3, 2017 @ 8:01pm 
hu... so i installed the mod , did a dino wipe and no change . guess its not compatable with annunaki ?
Tommexx Apr 4, 2017 @ 3:57am 
Originally posted by Valentinez:
I have Annunaki, it's working for me, [new tames at least]
On mine However,
Old Tames still cannot level speed,
And the New Tames do not work with the Homing Pigeon Mod

Quick question, do you still have annunaki at 1st in mod loading order? Or did you add classic flyers as 1st?
Valentinez Apr 4, 2017 @ 8:17am 
My Mod List Order:
770949087 Health and Torp Bars
895711211 Classic Flyers <<<<<<<<<
737297870 Stat Bars
538986229 Annunaki Genesis
731604991 S+
764755314 Castles and Keeps
655581765 Pimp my Dino
764241499 SE Decor
670764308 ecoTrees
880871931 Garden Decor
779245247 Elevators Plus
779897534 Platforms Anywhere
719928795 Platforms Plus
821530042 Upgrade Bench
554678442 Egg and Poop Collector
772237000 Pick it Up
791697509 Public Test
531396658 Crystal Lamps
770949087 Better Milk
680481868 StackMeMore
655261420 Homing Pidgeon
760067652 Teleport Pad
814833973 Wyvern Mating
751991809 Death Recovery
774413050 Ark Customizer
754885087 More Narcotics and Traq Arrows
693416678 Reusable Plus
558651608 Bridges
553034096 Water Well
884380337 Classic Rocket Launcher
741338580 Pet Rez
Tommexx Apr 4, 2017 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by Valentinez:
My Mod List Order:
770949087 Health and Torp Bars
895711211 Classic Flyers <<<<<<<<<
737297870 Stat Bars
538986229 Annunaki Genesis
731604991 S+
764755314 Castles and Keeps
655581765 Pimp my Dino
764241499 SE Decor
670764308 ecoTrees
880871931 Garden Decor
779245247 Elevators Plus
779897534 Platforms Anywhere
719928795 Platforms Plus
821530042 Upgrade Bench
554678442 Egg and Poop Collector
772237000 Pick it Up
791697509 Public Test
531396658 Crystal Lamps
770949087 Better Milk
680481868 StackMeMore
655261420 Homing Pidgeon
760067652 Teleport Pad
814833973 Wyvern Mating
751991809 Death Recovery
774413050 Ark Customizer
754885087 More Narcotics and Traq Arrows
693416678 Reusable Plus
558651608 Bridges
553034096 Water Well
884380337 Classic Rocket Launcher
741338580 Pet Rez

Unfortunately, I can't get it to work with the annunaki mod. Seems like something else might be meddling with the stats that gives you the ability to level their flyers...
Annunaki Genesis - Does not work
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Bummer
Last edited by Running with Scissors; Apr 4, 2017 @ 10:05am
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